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Pettersson 5 year offersheet

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Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 12, 2021
Published: Aug. 12, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$10,250,000
4$9,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Pettersson, Elias$10,250,000
2022 1st round pick
2022 2nd round pick
2022 3rd round pick
2023 1st round pick
Trades
1.
MIN
BUF
  1. Rask, Victor
  2. 2023 4th round pick (MIN)
2.
MIN
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (DET)
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (WSH)
  4. 2022 4th round pick (DET)
  5. 2022 4th round pick (VGK)
DET
  1. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
  2. 2022 5th round pick (SJS)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$78,855,255$0$132,500$2,644,745
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
LW
UFA - 5
$10,250,000$10,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW, C
UFA
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$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$7,575,000$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,666,667$3,666,667
G
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$850,000$850,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 8:13 a.m.
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I’d think Vancouver would match that. Young 1C versus 2 late firsts doesn’t seem great to me.
Aug. 12, 2021 at 8:14 a.m.
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I’d think Vancouver would match that. Young 1C versus 2 late firsts doesn’t seem great to me.


I would offer more, but can VAN even match the $10.25M?
Aug. 12, 2021 at 8:17 a.m.
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I would offer more, but can VAN even match the $10.25M?

CF lists 13.3 + 3.5 for Ferland (pretty sure he’s LTIR) plus Vancouver can exceed the ceiling in the offseason to make adjustments.
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Aug. 12, 2021 at 8:20 a.m.
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CF lists 13.3 + 3.5 for Ferland (pretty sure he’s LTIR) plus Vancouver can exceed the ceiling in the offseason to make adjustments.


What about Quinn Hughes?
Aug. 12, 2021 at 8:27 a.m.
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What about Quinn Hughes?


They bridge him. Werenski, McAvoy, and Sergachev we’re all bridged recently for roughly 5M x 3 years.
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Aug. 12, 2021 at 8:29 a.m.
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They bridge him. Werenski, McAvoy, and Sergachev we’re all bridged recently for roughly 5M x 3 years.


I can see that, but then you have to sign Dickinson, who probably wants $2M+
Aug. 12, 2021 at 9:06 a.m.
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You know how screwed you'd be next year with those buyouts right?

12.7 mill in dead cap
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Aug. 12, 2021 at 9:10 a.m.
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You know how screwed you'd be next year with those buyouts right?

12.7 mill in dead cap


It's a common thought on CF. Might be a fair value trade, but no consideration of future cap for one team or the other.
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Aug. 12, 2021 at 9:21 a.m.
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I mean, it would be semi-entertaining to watch the Wild try to figure out how to get 8 players signed with somewhere between $4.8-5.8 mil in 22/23. Obviously they'd have to move someone like Dumba, but still, pretty funny.
Aug. 12, 2021 at 11:11 a.m.
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Pettersson said he wanted to be on a winning team....
Aug. 12, 2021 at 11:14 a.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
I mean, it would be semi-entertaining to watch the Wild try to figure out how to get 8 players signed with somewhere between $4.8-5.8 mil in 22/23. Obviously they'd have to move someone like Dumba, but still, pretty funny.


I mean, they would have Boldy and Rossi both on ELCs next year, then Bjugstad probably could come back for under a million. Gologoski is reported to be signing an extension for 1 year 2M Jan 1. But then it gets tight, Dumba or Zuc would probably be traded.
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Aug. 12, 2021 at 12:56 p.m.
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Quoting: JeffW
You know how screwed you'd be next year with those buyouts right?

12.7 mill in dead cap


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It's a common thought on CF. Might be a fair value trade, but no consideration of future cap for one team or the other.


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I mean, it would be semi-entertaining to watch the Wild try to figure out how to get 8 players signed with somewhere between $4.8-5.8 mil in 22/23. Obviously they'd have to move someone like Dumba, but still, pretty funny.


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I mean, they would have Boldy and Rossi both on ELCs next year, then Bjugstad probably could come back for under a million. Gologoski is reported to be signing an extension for 1 year 2M Jan 1. But then it gets tight, Dumba or Zuc would probably be traded.


It's almost as if players who're LTIRetired, don't exist. Trading for and acquiring those contracts would more or less gain that lost cap space back by negating the dead cap.

Marian Gaborik, Marian Hossa, and Brent Seabrook are all prime examples of this. Teams have used these contracts to either reach the cap floor or to get past the cap ceiling for the last few years, and the league so far isn't doing anything to stop it. Both Michael Ferland and Shea Weber are prime candidates to be allowed to LTIRetire and contracts I could see Guerin targeting if they are.

Weber's alone would essentially cut the dead cap in half, allowing greater flexibility through the heaviest years of the buyouts.
Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:16 p.m.
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It's almost as if players who're LTIRetired, don't exist. Trading for and acquiring those contracts would more or less gain that lost cap space back by negating the dead cap.

Marian Gaborik, Marian Hossa, and Brent Seabrook are all prime examples of this. Teams have used these contracts to either reach the cap floor or to get past the cap ceiling for the last few years, and the league so far isn't doing anything to stop it. Both Michael Ferland and Shea Weber are prime candidates to be allowed to LTIRetire and contracts I could see Guerin targeting if they are.

Weber's alone would essentially cut the dead cap in half, allowing greater flexibility through the heaviest years of the buyouts.


Sorry am I missing something?

How would trading for an LITRetred contracts remove the buyout penalty cause from buying out suter and parise?
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Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:21 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
It's almost as if players who're LTIRetired, don't exist. Trading for and acquiring those contracts would more or less gain that lost cap space back by negating the dead cap.

Marian Gaborik, Marian Hossa, and Brent Seabrook are all prime examples of this. Teams have used these contracts to either reach the cap floor or to get past the cap ceiling for the last few years, and the league so far isn't doing anything to stop it. Both Michael Ferland and Shea Weber are prime candidates to be allowed to LTIRetire and contracts I could see Guerin targeting if they are.

Weber's alone would essentially cut the dead cap in half, allowing greater flexibility through the heaviest years of the buyouts.


Maybe I'm completely wrong, but my understanding of LTIR is that it doesn't create a higher cap, it just negates that players dead space. For instance, if you had a 22 man roster that was at the cap ceiling ($81.5 mil), then added someone through a trade that was on LTIR at $6 mil, it doesn't give you $6 mil more in space, it just means that the contract of the player that is effectively on the roster but unable to play won't count against the cap.
Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:22 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
It's almost as if players who're LTIRetired, don't exist. Trading for and acquiring those contracts would more or less gain that lost cap space back by negating the dead cap.

Marian Gaborik, Marian Hossa, and Brent Seabrook are all prime examples of this. Teams have used these contracts to either reach the cap floor or to get past the cap ceiling for the last few years, and the league so far isn't doing anything to stop it. Both Michael Ferland and Shea Weber are prime candidates to be allowed to LTIRetire and contracts I could see Guerin targeting if they are.

Weber's alone would essentially cut the dead cap in half, allowing greater flexibility through the heaviest years of the buyouts.

I’m not following your comment here. Teams don’t use LTIR contracts to hit the floor as the cap is negated nor do they really count above the ceiling because they’re not iced. LTIR contracts are really only an issue with instances like Kucherov’s last year where they come back game 1 of the playoffs thus not counting against the cap but can be iced. LTIR contracts don’t give a team more cap the way you think.
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Aug. 12, 2021 at 3:09 p.m.
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Pettersson said he wanted to be on a winning team....


Then he would absolutely want to leave the Canucks!
Aug. 12, 2021 at 4:03 p.m.
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Edited Aug. 12, 2021 at 4:16 p.m.
Quoting: JeffW
Sorry am I missing something?

How would trading for an LITRetred contracts remove the buyout penalty cause from buying out suter and parise?


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Maybe I'm completely wrong, but my understanding of LTIR is that it doesn't create a higher cap, it just negates that players dead space. For instance, if you had a 22 man roster that was at the cap ceiling ($81.5 mil), then added someone through a trade that was on LTIR at $6 mil, it doesn't give you $6 mil more in space, it just means that the contract of the player that is effectively on the roster but unable to play won't count against the cap.


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I’m not following your comment here. Teams don’t use LTIR contracts to hit the floor as the cap is negated nor do they really count above the ceiling because they’re not iced. LTIR contracts are really only an issue with instances like Kucherov’s last year where they come back game 1 of the playoffs thus not counting against the cap but can be iced. LTIR contracts don’t give a team more cap the way you think.


For as long as a player is on LTIR the team can spend up to that LTIR'ed players cap hit for any and all replacement player(s). This is why Tampa Bay was able to go out and acquire David Savard and other players and add them to their roster while Kucherov was out on LTIR last year.

Therefore, as long as the Wild could have such a LTIR'ed contract they could spend up to that player(s) cap hit, and in effect negate some of the buyouts dead cap space as if it wasn't there. It's cap circumvention and it's a definite loophole. One Tampa Bay used to great effect last year, and because it's still technically legal why they got away with it. Or do you consider the fact JBB acquired the Gaborik and Seabrook contracts for no real reason and just did it for the fun of it?
Aug. 12, 2021 at 4:28 p.m.
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For as long as a player is on LTIR the team can spend up to that LTIR'ed players cap hit for any and all replacement player(s). This is why Tampa Bay was able to go out and acquire David Savard and other players and add them to their roster while Kucherov was out on LTIR last year.

Therefore, as long as the Wild could have such a LTIR'ed contract they could spend up to that player(s) cap hit, and in effect negate some of the buyouts dead cap space as if it wasn't there. It's cap circumvention and it's a definite loophole. One Tampa Bay used to great effect last year, and because it's still technically legal why they got away with it. Or do you consider the fact JBB acquired the Gaborik and Seabrook contracts for no real reason and just did it for the fun of it?


No this is wrong... it's correct in theory but it's not the situation the wild are in... suter and parise aren't on the LTIR they have been bought out and both player will be healthy and playing for other teams this year
Aug. 12, 2021 at 4:34 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
For as long as a player is on LTIR the team can spend up to that LTIR'ed players cap hit for any and all replacement player(s). This is why Tampa Bay was able to go out and acquire David Savard and other players and add them to their roster while Kucherov was out on LTIR last year.

Therefore, as long as the Wild could have such a LTIR'ed contract they could spend up to that player(s) cap hit, and in effect negate some of the buyouts dead cap space as if it wasn't there. It's cap circumvention and it's a definite loophole. One Tampa Bay used to great effect last year, and because it's still technically legal why they got away with it. Or do you consider the fact JBB acquired the Gaborik and Seabrook contracts for no real reason and just did it for the fun of it?

That’s not how LTIR works. Simply put if you add let’s say 5M to an existing 80M team you sit at 85M until said player is LTIR’d but then you’re back at 80M so there’s no benefit.

https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq

You’d fine the “What is the Accruable Cap Space Limit (ACSL)?” very informative as that shows the calculation of how they were able to acquire Savard. Essentially Kucherov’s 9.5M didn’t count towards the cap (isn’t cap circumvention) as he was LTIR the entire season. The only way it’s cap circumvention is if he was found to be healthy before the start of game 1 but that’s hard to prove out.
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Aug. 12, 2021 at 4:35 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
For as long as a player is on LTIR the team can spend up to that LTIR'ed players cap hit for any and all replacement player(s). This is why Tampa Bay was able to go out and acquire David Savard and other players and add them to their roster while Kucherov was out on LTIR last year.

Therefore, as long as the Wild could have such a LTIR'ed contract they could spend up to that player(s) cap hit, and in effect negate some of the buyouts dead cap space as if it wasn't there. It's cap circumvention and it's a definite loophole. One Tampa Bay used to great effect last year, and because it's still technically legal why they got away with it. Or do you consider the fact JBB acquired the Gaborik and Seabrook contracts for no real reason and just did it for the fun of it?


So what you're trying to say Is if minny acquired shea weber and placed him on LTIR that their cap goes from 81.5 + the 7.5 mill for weber to 89 million?? All the while weber cap hit doesn't count... this seems very unlikely and I've never heard of this
Aug. 12, 2021 at 5:26 p.m.
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I can see that, but then you have to sign Dickinson, who probably wants $2M+


we have ferland on LTIR that frees up extra 3mil
 
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