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If another 1st round loss

Created by: G0_Leafs_GO
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 13, 2021
Published: Aug. 13, 2021
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Sandin, Rasmus3$2,500,000
Liljegren, Timothy2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Campbell, Jack3$3,750,000
McNabb, Brayden2$2,750,000
Braun, Justin1$800,000
Burakovsky, André5$6,500,000
Copp, Andrew4$4,250,000
Donato, Ryan1$1,000,000
Ennis, Tyler2$775,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Comtois, Maxime
  2. Terry, Troy
  3. 2022 1st round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. 2023 6th round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (LAK)
  2. 2023 4th round pick (PIT)
LAK
    Rielly sign-and-trade
    3.
    TOR
    1. 2022 2nd round pick (COL)
    NYI
    1. Dermott, Travis
    4.
    TOR
    1. 2022 4th round pick (NSH)
    NSH
    1. Anderson, Joey
    5.
    TOR
    1. 2023 5th round pick (NJD)
    NJD
    1. Kämpf, David
    6.
    TOR
    1. 2022 2nd round pick (DAL)
    2. 2023 3rd round pick (DAL)
    DAL
    1. Kerfoot, Alexander
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2022
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    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the NSH
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    2023
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the NJD
    2024
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$78,699,283$212,500$0$2,800,717
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
    Comtois, Maxime
    $2,037,500
    LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Matthews, Auston
    $11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Nylander, William
    $6,962,366
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Robertson, Nicholas
    $796,667
    LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Tavares, John
    $11,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Burakovsky, André
    $6,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Ritchie, Nick
    $2,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Copp, Andrew
    $4,250,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
    Terry, Troy
    $1,450,000
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Bunting, Michael
    $950,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Donato, Ryan
    $1,000,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Simmonds, Wayne
    $900,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Muzzin, Jake
    $5,625,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Brodie, TJ
    $5,000,000
    LD/RD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Campbell, Jack
    $3,750,000
    G
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Sandin, Rasmus
    $2,500,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Holl, Justin
    $2,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Mrázek, Petr
    $3,800,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    McNabb, Brayden
    $2,750,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Liljegren, Timothy
    $1,500,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Ennis, Tyler
    $775,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    Braun, Justin
    $800,000
    RD
    UFA - 1

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    Aug. 13, 2021 at 9:44 p.m.
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    LosPatos
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    Ducks aren’t doing that
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    Aug. 13, 2021 at 9:53 p.m.
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    Hidalgo
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    Quoting: AntreDiAnaheim
    Ducks aren’t doing that


    Lol come on man. The Marner hate on here is getting outta control. None of those guys are ever getting close to 94 points
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    Aug. 13, 2021 at 9:53 p.m.
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    MajorMoose
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    dermott wouldn't get you a second, and sandin would play with brodie
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    Aug. 13, 2021 at 9:56 p.m.
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    Cmon Kyle
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    I will never understand why people think this, or other middle sixers, is a fair Marner deal.
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 10:00 p.m.
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    The difference between Rielly and Dermott is just a 4th?
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 10:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: Hidalgo
    Lol come on man. The Marner hate on here is getting outta control. None of those guys are ever getting close to 94 points



    Don’t think the ducks give up what is likely a high lottery pick for Marner in a pretty strong draft class. The post said if another 1st round loss which would mean Marner Kelly does nothing in the playoffs again.
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 10:01 p.m.
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    Will the Reilly sign and trade work like the one that happened with Edm this year?
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 10:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: Hidalgo
    Lol come on man. The Marner hate on here is getting outta control. None of those guys are ever getting close to 94 points


    That’s not the point. The point is that 2022 pick has a very good chance of being Shane Wright, Max Comtois is a big player for us and could break out this season, and Terry was practically our best winger last year ( analytically was the best on the roster )

    It’s not we hate Marner or that Marner isn’t good, it’s that the package the Ducks give up hold much more value for them than Marner does.
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    Aug. 13, 2021 at 11:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: gmgb
    The difference between Rielly and Dermott is just a 4th?


    The difference is that the trade is for 1 year of Dermott vs. just signing rights to Rielly, which is an absurd return to get for signing rights as we saw with Hyman.
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    Aug. 13, 2021 at 11:29 p.m.
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    Hidalgo
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    Quoting: AntreDiAnaheim
    That’s not the point. The point is that 2022 pick has a very good chance of being Shane Wright, Max Comtois is a big player for us and could break out this season, and Terry was practically our best winger last year ( analytically was the best on the roster )

    It’s not we hate Marner or that Marner isn’t good, it’s that the package the Ducks give up hold much more value for them than Marner does.


    That’s a fair point then I guess. The general consensus on here is usually different then that, but that makes sense
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    Aug. 13, 2021 at 11:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: MellowK
    The difference is that the trade is for 1 year of Dermott vs. just signing rights to Rielly, which is an absurd return to get for signing rights as we saw with Hyman.


    Thanks, not sure how I missed that (too much wine tonight, I guess). That makes more sense now. It's too much instead of not enough now, but at least it makes sense in the context of the other over-valuation of Leafs players here.
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    Aug. 14, 2021 at 6:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: Hidalgo
    That’s a fair point then I guess. The general consensus on here is usually different then that, but that makes sense


    I agree with @AntreDiAnaheim. This makes no sense for the Ducks. Giving up the only good goal scorer on the roster right now for another Passer wouldn't be too smart. The 2022 1st is probably a Top 5 pick and that, Comtois and Terry (who is very underrated and a really good player) is not worth giving up from the Ducks perspective.

    I really like Marner and I think he's a great player but this isn't a trade the Ducks would do.
    Aug. 15, 2021 at 12:36 a.m.
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    Marner rocks
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    Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart
    I will never understand why people think this, or other middle sixers, is a fair Marner deal.


    There is only 3 players in the league that Marner and a package would the leafs trade him for. If the leafs make a trade and send anyone out it's Nylander. Marner is way better at both ends of the ice and is their top pk guy as well. He is the leafs best all round player and his ice time proves it.
     
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