can you not trade the only good defenseman we have please and thanks

also we have no need for dermott, we have enough mediocre to okay LD (holden, mete, del zotto)

and i’d want more than a 1st to take on kassian’s contract alone, he’s got 3 years left at 3.2mil and sucks. koskinen’s value to dump adds a 2nd, and watson/forsberg should both fetch a mid- to late-round pick on their own

You’re just straight up getting fleeced…

Dw someone soon is going to start trading Sanderson for a centre smh

Kings wouldn't trade Byfield for Eichel, pretty sure they wouldn't for Chabot

If Eichel was healthy and on a cheaper contract, you absolutely trade Byfield for him

If Chabot was 4 or 5 years younger, I could see LA considering this. As is, LA says no.

There's so much hype and publicity in LA surrounding Byfield that I don't think they'd trade him for 20 year old Wayne Gretzky. The DSP-Byfield-Thomas line was front page news for weeks.

I think the whole reason the Kings wanted Eichel was to have someone anchor the team while Kopitar declined and Byfield was ready. Once it seemed Turcotte wasn't enough to get him the Kings were out. I don't see any proposal where the Kings would lose Byfield unless a team overpaid by quite a bit. The team would do Turcotte + for Chabot, but I don't see the Kings moving Byfield on the cusp of being an NHLer

Now they won’t for sure. But let’s say it’s Byfield for Draisaitl? You wouldn’t ?

if you rejected this deal, your missing out on a lot

I mean, it's incredibly unlikely, but even then the Kings can't afford Drai, Marner, Eichel or any of these other huge names. I mean look at their cap, they would need to offset nearly $7M in contracts to take on these players, and still be a top-heavy team. If you look how Kopitar and Danault's contracts are structured to have Kopitar's contract to come off the books right when Byfield and Turcotte get their first contract, this is also when Danaults NTC goes away. I think the Kings are willing to move some great prospects to get better but I'd genuinely be surprised if Turcotte or Byfield are moved after aquiring Danault and drafting Clarke

I think the same can be said about Byfield. Also the Kings would need to make several other deals to even make the cap work.

I would like to see the Kings go for Sergachev

I would love it, but doubt he'll be made available. The Kings will try for another top-4 LD but it can't happen while Maata and Edler are on this team.

so with jones getting 9mil, Werenski getting 9mil, Pietrangelo 9mil, Hamilton 9mil, you wouldn't trade a good centre prospect (which you have several of) for an elite young d man on a great contract? If I was Blake, I am accepting this deal in a heartbeat

If I had Byfield , I wouldn’t trade him for Chabot. Maybe Theodore cuz of his contract

Blake would also need to offset nearly $6M in cap to make this trade work. And like you said, the Kings have several other good center prospects who are available for trade, Byfield isn't one of them. He is not just a good center prospect, he is considered one of the best prospects in the league who isn't even close to his ceiling. The Kings need an LD, but if it costs their best asset obtained in their 3-year rebuild, Blake says no. After the Kings signed Edler it is clear they will postpone their hunt for a top LD for next season, after which the Kings would move Turcotte, 1st, + for the right LD.

I’m not gonna debate the value but he’s 24 signed to a longterm contract, you can’t tell me he’s old lmao

I'm not arguing he's old at all. He's significantly older than Byfield though. LA still gets 4 years of Byfield on an ELC at six-figures (assuming he plays this coming season in the AHL as expected), while Chabot is already one of the highest paid defensemen in the league. Assuming players peak at age 23 as the fancy charts suggest, Byfield's best days are in front of him, while Chabot's are behind him.

I dont understand the Y-axis on this graph. Why are all the numbers negative for change in overall WAR.

It's also well known that goalies and defensemen mature at a later age than forwards.

The baseline is set to the maximum. 23 is the max and all other ages are compared relative to age 23.

Here's the chart broken down by forwards and defensemen. As it turns out, defensemen top out at age 22, while forwards are at age 25.

I think the graph is skewed because most non-elite defencemen aren't playing the tough match ups at age 22. Another thing is that only elite D men will be playing before the age of 22.

If you look at Dermott his WAR is amazing but I wouldn't call him elite.

Could be. Here's the article where these graphs were published:

Hockey Graphs: A New Look at Aging Curves for NHL Skaters

I still wouldn't trade Byfield for Chabot though.

Fair enough. It was just for fun. Thanks for your input.