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Realistic Eichel Trade

Created by: CuyahogaKid
Team: 2021-22 Vegas Golden Knights
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 17, 2021
Published: Aug. 18, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
VGK
  1. Eichel, Jack ($1,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Buffalo reduces their ask for Eichel and bites on sending him West. His health is a major question mark and fans will hate this trade for sure, but the big problem here is that at this point, it’s doubtful this is like the Duchene trade to Ottawa when he was traded a few games into the season, Duchene was healthy and on and expiring deal. Eichel still has no resolution to the neck injury, and at this point, he could be out for most of the season next year if he has fusion surgery, or several weeks if he has the disc replacement that he wants which probably puts him out between thanksgiving and Christmas, but that has never been done on an NHL player.

The reality is here ( as a Sabres fan) no team is paying premium assets for an unknown commodity with a high price tag, flat cap, and term, and with the possibility that he will be out some of most of next year. Buffalo may also need to retain a little salary similar to what Toronto did with Phil Kessel.

Not to mention, the argument of “Buffalo doesn’t have to trade him” goes out the window when there’s a perception around the league that the Sabres do not want Eichel back.

The only team I see trading for Eichel would be a team who can afford to wait for him to get healthy, and a team that sees him as the missing peice. Right now VGK makes the most sense. If the Rangers come out and look like like a contender by the holidays: maybe they are more aggressive. But right now Vegas looks like the best fit for both sides and the idea here would be if he has the fusion surgery, Vegas would get a major boost come playoff time, or if he has the disk replacement, he gives them a boost after the new year.

Many knights fan will hate to include Tuch, but he’s in there because of the contract term is similar to Eichel’s? And he’s currently hurt and out long term.

I do think Peyton Krebs will be a deal breaker for VGK
BUF
  1. Brisson, Brendan [Reserve List]
  2. Carrier, William
  3. Patrick, Nolan [RFA Rights]
  4. Tuch, Alex
  5. 2022 2nd round pick (VGK)
  6. 2023 1st round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
Conditional first round pick in 2023 if Vegas wins the Stanley Cup or if Jack Eichel appears in the majority of the 2022 playoffs. Buffalo can defer to 2024. ****2023 first is top five protected.
2.
VGK
  1. Keane, Joey
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
Vegas will likely need to dump Smith if they move Eichel.
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$78,836,605$285,772$605,000$2,663,395
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
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UFA - 2
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
C
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UFA - 6
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$776,667$776,667 (Performance Bonus$110,000$110K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$885,000$885,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$8,800,000$8,800,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$2,325,000$2,325,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$791,667$791,667
LD
RFA - 1
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$809,166$809,166 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 1

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Aug. 18, 2021 at 12:16 a.m.
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I think BUF will want a better prospect than Brisson. They probably want Krebs.
Aug. 18, 2021 at 12:30 a.m.
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I like Smith as a top 9 forward target, but if we are helping Vegas out with their self-imposed cap struggles I would like more of a discount than this
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Aug. 18, 2021 at 12:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I think BUF will want a better prospect than Brisson. They probably want Krebs.

They have already committed to getting a teams top prospect they aren’t going to back out now and settle for B/C prospects.
Aug. 18, 2021 at 12:36 a.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I think BUF will want a better prospect than Brisson. They probably want Krebs.


More than likely. The rumored ask was Krebs, Smith and Hague with a first. I think the reason it didn’t happen is because Vegas does not want to part with Krebs. If they land him with Eichel being hurt, it’s a huge win for Buffalo because Krebs is a hell of a prospect, but Kelly McCrimmon loves him.
Aug. 18, 2021 at 1:31 a.m.
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Patrick is a certified bust that offer is way too low
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Aug. 18, 2021 at 5:00 a.m.
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They have already committed to getting a teams top prospect they aren’t going to back out now and settle for B/C prospects.


Quoting: Shibbal18
Patrick is a certified bust that offer is way too low


This quote from the above perfectly encapsulates the ridiculousness of the logic of this:

"Not to mention, the argument of “Buffalo doesn’t have to trade him” goes out the window when there’s a perception around the league that the Sabres do not want Eichel back."

No, it doesn't go out the window. The perception means nothing. Only what Buffalo actually wants to do matters and right now it looks like they're angry (and rightly so since Eichel and his agents have butchered this at least as bad as the team) and feeling no pressure at all to do anything. The entire league can perceive them to want to move him for nothing but if they don't actually want to do that then the trade doesn't happen.

Just another ludicrous trade based on flawed...I don't want to call it logic. Not even in quotes. Too insulting to the concept of logic.

No Krebs, no deal.
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Aug. 18, 2021 at 8:08 a.m.
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"The reality is here ( as a Sabres fan) no team is paying premium assets for an unknown commodity"
Eichel also isnt an unknown commodity, his neck injury is blown out of proportion, and what he provides on the ice is very well known
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Aug. 18, 2021 at 8:34 a.m.
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Canes would do smith for 3/4 at most. He’s overpaid and you guys are trying to dump him so you’re also not getting what you think is full value for him. Especially in that dream scenario where you get Eichel for that package.
Aug. 18, 2021 at 8:42 a.m.
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Quoting: DennisReynolds
More than likely. The rumored ask was Krebs, Smith and Hague with a first. I think the reason it didn’t happen is because Vegas does not want to part with Krebs. If they land him with Eichel being hurt, it’s a huge win for Buffalo because Krebs is a hell of a prospect, but Kelly McCrimmon loves him.


I don't expect Buffalo to get a huge haul for Eichel, but I think a minimum of a 1st and whichever team's best prospect is expected.

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Aug. 18, 2021 at 8:45 a.m.
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They have already committed to getting a teams top prospect they aren’t going to back out now and settle for B/C prospects.


And they shouldn't. To me this trade is close if you swap out Brisson with Krebs then take Tuch and Carrier out of the equation.
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Aug. 18, 2021 at 10:12 a.m.
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Drop Patrick for Krebs. Krebs is 100% the current sticking point on the deal. Buffalo shouldn’t take a package without him and I’m sure Vegas doesn’t want to move him. Lot more pressure on Vegas than on Buffalo. I think Buffalo gets Krebs eventually
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Aug. 18, 2021 at 11:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I don't expect Buffalo to get a huge haul for Eichel, but I think a minimum of a 1st and whichever team's best prospect is expected.

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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
And they shouldn't. To me this trade is close if you swap out Brisson with Krebs then take Tuch and Carrier out of the equation.


The only thing is that if you’re Vegas trading for Eichel, Tuch and Smith would probably have to go because of the money aspect
 
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