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TML Roster Ideas V4

Created by: Stavros99
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 18, 2021
Published: Aug. 18, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Chara, Zdeno1$800,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Giordano, Mark ($2,250,000 retained)
  2. McCann, Jared
  3. Winterton, Ryan [Reserve List]
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (WPG)
  5. 2022 4th round pick (CGY)
  6. 2023 4th round pick (COL)
SEA
  1. Rielly, Morgan
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. Engvall, Pierre
2.
TOR
  1. Parayko, Colton ($1,275,000 retained)
STL
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Holl, Justin
  3. Brooks, Adam
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
TOR
CGY
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
WPG
TOR
TOR
COL
TOR
TOR
2024
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$81,498,116$0$1,150,000$1,884

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Kase, Ondrej
$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
TOR
Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Ritchie, Nick
$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
SEA
McCann, Jared
$2,940,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
SEA
Giordano, Mark
$4,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Parayko, Colton
$4,225,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
TOR
Mrázek, Petr
$3,800,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
Chara, Zdeno
$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Marner, M.
Ritchie, N.
Tavares, J.
Giordano, M.
Matthews, A.
Power Play 2
McCann, J.
Bunting, M.
Spezza, J.
Nylander, W.
Brodie, T.
Penalty Kill 1
Kämpf, D.
Mikheyev, I.
Chara, Z.
Brodie, T.
Penalty Kill 2
McCann, J.
Marner, M.
Muzzin, J.
Parayko, C.

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Aug. 18 at 6:26 a.m.
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no reason for Blues to even consider that as a trade. If you want him it's gonna be worth more than a 2nd pairing 3rd pairing a 2nd round pick Brooks who even knows if he makes the NHL at this point. It costs one of the top 4 big money names you guys have at the very least at it's probably extra after that.
Aug. 18 at 6:40 a.m.
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That Parayko offer is a total joke even without the retention.
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Aug. 18 at 9:09 a.m.
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That parayko trade is horrrible
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Aug. 18 at 9:17 a.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
no reason for Blues to even consider that as a trade. If you want him it's gonna be worth more than a 2nd pairing 3rd pairing a 2nd round pick Brooks who even knows if he makes the NHL at this point. It costs one of the top 4 big money names you guys have at the very least at it's probably extra after that.


Quoting: mokumboi
That Parayko offer is a total joke even without the retention.


Quoting: nathanallan
That parayko trade is horrrible


You guys are treating Parayko like he is some superstar defenseman, when he isnt. He's a decent 2nd pair guy who's big and has a cannon heading into his last year under contract. The Blues should probably look to retool on the fly, trade him and Perron this summer/at the deadline. Holl was unironically better than him this year
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Aug. 18 at 9:21 a.m.
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Quoting: deys3232
You guys are treating Parayko like he is some superstar defenseman, when he isnt. He's a decent 2nd pair guy who's big and has a cannon heading into his last year under contract. The Blues should probably look to retool on the fly, trade him and Perron this summer/at the deadline. Holl was unironically better than him this year


Parayko is our best defencive dman and his only problem is using his big body hes good were not dealing him away and why on earth would we trade Perrong he just came off the best year of his career how wis that retooling trading our best current point producer
Aug. 18 at 9:24 a.m.
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Quoting: nathanallan
Parayko is our best defencive dman and his only problem is using his big body hes good were not dealing him away and why on earth would we trade Perrong he just came off the best year of his career how wis that retooling trading our best current point producer


Because he is heading into the last year of his contract and the team is no longer good enough to win a cup. Pietrangelo, Schwartz, Schwartz (and Bozak?) gone. Tarasenko is not as good as he used to be, Schenn has struggled.
Aug. 18 at 9:29 a.m.
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Quoting: deys3232
Because he is heading into the last year of his contract and the team is no longer good enough to win a cup. Pietrangelo, Schwartz, Schwartz (and Bozak?) gone. Tarasenko is not as good as he used to be, Schenn has struggled.


we replaced piet and got better players in return of hofman and schwartz they are both worse then buch and saad but okay + schenncis doing just fine
Aug. 18 at 9:31 a.m.
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Quoting: nathanallan
we replaced piet and got better players in return of hofman and schwartz they are both worse then buch and saad but okay + schenncis doing just fine


Dont tell me that Faulk is your Pietrangelo replacement
Aug. 18 at 9:31 a.m.
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Quoting: nathanallan
we replaced piet and got better players in return of hofman and schwartz they are both worse then buch and saad but okay + schenncis doing just fine


I like Saad and Buch, but I think 2019 Schwartz was more valuable, Dunn is also gone
Aug. 18 at 9:43 a.m.
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Quoting: deys3232
You guys are treating Parayko like he is some superstar defenseman, when he isnt. He's a decent 2nd pair guy who's big and has a cannon heading into his last year under contract. The Blues should probably look to retool on the fly, trade him and Perron this summer/at the deadline. Holl was unironically better than him this year


Hi-larious. First of all, you're entirely pretending as if Parayko didn't play with a back injury before missing time for that back injury before coming back and looking like his normal self at the end of the year. Secondly, Parayko is a very unique player that would be almost impossible and extraordinarily expensive to replace, and has accomplished worlds more than all those players combined. Thing the third, the Blues are not retooling or rebuilding, and any suggestion that they do so is ludicrous - before the injuries decimated them for months at a time, they were tops of the division. If reasonably healthy, they are quite capable of contending. Finally, you've skated right around the fact that this is a trash offer that also asks for retention. The Blues will almost certainly re-up with Colt before too long, so this "offer" is pure fantasy. Duh doy.
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Aug. 18 at 10:00 a.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Hi-larious. First of all, you're entirely pretending as if Parayko didn't play with a back injury before missing time for that back injury before coming back and looking like his normal self at the end of the year. Secondly, Parayko is a very unique player that would be almost impossible and extraordinarily expensive to replace, and has accomplished worlds more than all those players combined. Thing the third, the Blues are not retooling or rebuilding, and any suggestion that they do so is ludicrous - before the injuries decimated them for months at a time, they were tops of the division. If reasonably healthy, they are quite capable of contending. Finally, you've skated right around the fact that this is a trash offer that also asks for retention. The Blues will almost certainly re-up with Colt before too long, so this "offer" is pure fantasy. Duh doy.


Parayko's best season was his rookie year, he has been getting progressively worse over the past 3 seasons. It wasnt just this year where he sucked
Aug. 18 at 10:06 a.m.
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Quoting: deys3232
Parayko's best season was his rookie year, he has been getting progressively worse over the past 3 seasons. It wasnt just this year where he sucked


Hahaha what???

Good grief, man, reel it in.
Aug. 18 at 10:19 a.m.
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Quoting: deys3232
Parayko's best season was his rookie year, he has been getting progressively worse over the past 3 seasons. It wasnt just this year where he sucked


Parayko has alot of things going for him right now. He's a very very good defensive defenceman with a cannon of a shot. He's a RD which basically means you have to pay extra just for that aspect. The blues RD options fall off drastically after him, unless you play a lefty on that side, so that makes him their top right side defender. And if you think putting Reilly in a trade for him would work they wouldn't have any interest in that since they have some pretty good LD right now. So that trade is very very bad for St. Louis.
That Seattle trade although not quite as bad it's still awful for Seattle. Giordano is on the decline yes but you obviously see him as an upgrade to Reilly otherwise why trade Reilly? Reilly isn't worth Gio, McCann, a half decent prospect (no idea how good he will be this early in his career) let alone having them add a bunch of picks to it. Then you want them to retain salary on top of that, not going to happen. Engvall and Kerfoot don't add anything to the trade, yes Kerfoot is alright but in this situation he is basically a cap dump otherwise why trade him so that means no value for him.
Aug. 18 at 1:48 p.m.
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Edited Aug. 18 at 9:24 p.m.
Quoting: Lancebmx
Parayko has alot of things going for him right now. He's a very very good defensive defenceman with a cannon of a shot. He's a RD which basically means you have to pay extra just for that aspect. The blues RD options fall off drastically after him, unless you play a lefty on that side, so that makes him their top right side defender. And if you think putting Reilly in a trade for him would work they wouldn't have any interest in that since they have some pretty good LD right now. So that trade is very very bad for St. Louis.
That Seattle trade although not quite as bad it's still awful for Seattle. Giordano is on the decline yes but you obviously see him as an upgrade to Reilly otherwise why trade Reilly? Reilly isn't worth Gio, McCann, a half decent prospect (no idea how good he will be this early in his career) let alone having them add a bunch of picks to it. Then you want them to retain salary on top of that, not going to happen. Engvall and Kerfoot don't add anything to the trade, yes Kerfoot is alright but in this situation he is basically a cap dump otherwise why trade him so that means no value for him.


I seriously cannot believe how undervalued Rielly is on these boards. He is a number one stud dman that was in the running for the Norris only a couple of seasons ago and is in the prime of his career. Only reason Leafs move him is because they cannot afford him. Seattle happily takes him and wastes no time in extending him, and which I should have made clear this trade would be contingent on that.
Aug. 18 at 1:54 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Hi-larious. First of all, you're entirely pretending as if Parayko didn't play with a back injury before missing time for that back injury before coming back and looking like his normal self at the end of the year. Secondly, Parayko is a very unique player that would be almost impossible and extraordinarily expensive to replace, and has accomplished worlds more than all those players combined. Thing the third, the Blues are not retooling or rebuilding, and any suggestion that they do so is ludicrous - before the injuries decimated them for months at a time, they were tops of the division. If reasonably healthy, they are quite capable of contending. Finally, you've skated right around the fact that this is a trash offer that also asks for retention. The Blues will almost certainly re-up with Colt before too long, so this "offer" is pure fantasy. Duh doy.


If I'm a Blues fan I don't like this trade either but I'm not even sure Dubas does this move. Holl is a top 4 dman with one of the best value contracts in the league. Dermott could be a nice piece if given an opportunity. Parayko is still unsigned. What makes you so sure that you sign him? His back injury is another factor to consider both ways.
Aug. 18 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Stavros99
I seriously cannot believe how undervalued Rielly is on these boards. He is a number one stud dman that was in the running for the Norris only a couple of seasons ago and is in the prime of his career. Only reason Leafs move him is because they cannot afford him. Seattle happily takes him and wastes no time extending him.


I never said he sucked, I've made AGMs where I pay Reilly 8M in Detroit because I wouldn't mind him there. Just for Seattle no guarantee to sign him in that deal and they probably are not in a position to be competing so why make that trade? If they want first dibs at signing Reilly they will just trade a fifth for his rights at the end of the season.
Aug. 18 at 7:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Stavros99
If I'm a Blues fan I don't like this trade either but I'm not even sure Dubas does this move. Holl is a top 4 dman with one of the best value contracts in the league. Dermott could be a nice piece if given an opportunity.

Parayko is still unsigned. What makes you so sure that you sign him?

His back injury is another factor to consider both ways.


1- Great, then everyone can be happy with who they have now.

2- Well, I obviously won;t bet my life he signs, but the Blues will make every effort and I don't see any great drama occuring.

3- Yeah, not really. He came back 100%, and there's no reason to think it's now a thing. Prior to that, he'd been one of the most reliably healthy players in the league. One muscle injury across six years doesn't suddenly make him "an injury risk".
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Aug. 19 at 5:56 a.m.
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Quoting: deys3232
You guys are treating Parayko like he is some superstar defenseman, when he isnt. He's a decent 2nd pair guy who's big and has a cannon heading into his last year under contract. The Blues should probably look to retool on the fly, trade him and Perron this summer/at the deadline. Holl was unironically better than him this year


1st Pairing injury yes dropped his production a bit, but in general as everyone around the league have agreed he's a 1st Pairing RD. You won't get him for spare parts. He had a injury yes with production but again under the same principle Holl won't be better than him next year when he's fully healthy again.
Aug. 19 at 5:58 a.m.
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Quoting: deys3232
Parayko's best season was his rookie year, he has been getting progressively worse over the past 3 seasons. It wasnt just this year where he sucked


wrong. Advanced stats shows he's been one of the best performing defenseman. Regardless of point production. That's not what we look for in Parayko. he's defensive and one of the best at that.
Aug. 19 at 6:00 a.m.
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Quoting: Stavros99
I seriously cannot believe how undervalued Rielly is on these boards. He is a number one stud dman that was in the running for the Norris only a couple of seasons ago and is in the prime of his career. Only reason Leafs move him is because they cannot afford him. Seattle happily takes him and wastes no time in extending him, and which I should have made clear this trade would be contingent on that.


Rielly isn't underrated he's left handed we have Krug Perunovich Mikkola and Walman all on the left side it would start becoming redundant adding in yet another Lefty we need rightys and they are expensive as hell.
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Aug. 19 at 11:26 p.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
wrong. Advanced stats shows he's been one of the best performing defenseman. Regardless of point production. That's not what we look for in Parayko. he's defensive and one of the best at that.


Which advanced stats?
Aug. 21 at 9:44 p.m.
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Quoting: deys3232
Which advanced stats?


WAR% when he isn't injured.
Aug. 22 at 12:34 a.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Rielly isn't underrated he's left handed we have Krug Perunovich Mikkola and Walman all on the left side it would start becoming redundant adding in yet another Lefty we need rightys and they are expensive as hell.


I think you commented on the wrong thread. Rielly goes to Seattle here. Albeit, he'd arguably be your best dman. Aside from Krug, the other players aren't likely to be major impact players like Rielly is. I hear ya with regards to rightys though.
Aug. 22 at 3:54 a.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
WAR% when he isn't injured.


Which was...

And was the WAR% by topdownhockey?
Aug. 22 at 6:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Stavros99
I think you commented on the wrong thread. Rielly goes to Seattle here. Albeit, he'd arguably be your best dman. Aside from Krug, the other players aren't likely to be major impact players like Rielly is. I hear ya with regards to rightys though.


Perunovich is one of the best LDs coming up. Most likely becomes a Top 4 at the very least some have projected him to be even better than that. Mikkola will be one of the most reliable stay at home defenseman.
 
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