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Team: 2021-22 Nashville Predators
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 2:59 p.m.
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Canes likely accept
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if im montreal I take that
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:21 p.m.
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Nashville isn’t giving up a 1st to get rid of duchene and taking a mental patient back lol
Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:26 p.m.
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Drouin at worst is still a pretty productive Playmaker

Toffoli got all his Multi Goal Games but 1 including a Hat Trick beside Drouin last year
Suzuki had a great start to the season as well
Domi before that had his only 70 point season beside Drouin ,During JD injury Domi tail spun leading to a trade
Galchenyuk feuded with Claude Julien resulting in Drouin-Chucky-Gallagher to become Chucky-Drouin-basically everyone(Despite that struggle got 46 points including 22 PP Points and 4 GWG that year with no consistency at all as far as line mates )

As a Playmaker we need him even if we cry because he's making 1-1.5m over what he's worth
Wont make the same mistakes we did with Lars Eller crying because he was over paid for him to turn around and win a cup while we golf


I'd take Duchene but its gotta be for a Byron
We got the cap to clear a Duchene with Byron gone
Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:27 p.m.
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if im montreal I take that


Not sure how we would make it fit, but yeah I think it's at least considered. I think the sticking point for me would be term though is a 1st enough to take an additional 4 years and 2.5 mil more? I am not so sure.
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:29 p.m.
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Nashville isn’t giving up a 1st to get rid of duchene and taking a mental patient back lol


Yeah Robin Lehner called
Laughed hard as he just had back to back Conference Final Appearances
He went through the same thing Drouin did with Mental health issues
Its part of why he believe's he's the most underpaid Goalie in the NHL

Teams still want Lehner
No one's cracking jokes about his mental health issues
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Not sure how we would make it fit, but yeah I think it's at least considered. I think the sticking point for me would be term though is a 1st enough to take an additional 4 years and 2.5 mil more? I am not so sure.


Probably have to move a guy like armia or byron aswell to make him fit. maybe take nashvilles first instead of carolinas?
Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:32 p.m.
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Nashville isn’t giving up a 1st to get rid of duchene and taking a mental patient back lol


it not our fault you overpaid a underperforming player
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:37 p.m.
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Wow didn't think I'd say this with Duchene as part of the deal but what a massive overpay for Drouin
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:38 p.m.
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Nashville isn’t giving up a 1st to get rid of duchene and taking a mental patient back lol


Given what teams paid for a 1 year cap dump on lesser deals
You will or you'll have to rebuild with a 16m between 2 Aging Declining Centers with 2m for the next 6 years on Turris
18/81m gone on 2 players and a buyout until 2025-26

Those are Some Weber like deals you'll have to get Creative in moving out if you're not giving up Picks
Only way you're not giving up a 1st ++ to move Duchene out after all he's about to be 31 and declining steadily hitting a new Career low
Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:39 p.m.
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Wow didn't think I'd say this with Duchene as part of the deal but what a massive overpay for Drouin


you're kidding right
Took half the season off
Still did more then Duchene last year

Drouin may have had a bad year
But Duchene declined harder then Lecavlier
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:42 p.m.
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Probably have to move a guy like armia or byron aswell to make him fit. maybe take nashvilles first instead of carolinas?


Still not sure if a single 1st is worth it. Drouin is slightly overpaid but at least it is only for 1 more year and his issues are mental, Duchesne on the other hand is extremely overpaid and his problem is he is just too soft. I will take 1 year of Drouin at 5.5 over 5 years of Duchesne at 8 Mil. Unless Nashville wants to throw in a couple of really nice peices. Make us want Duchesne's cap hit, this doesn't even come close.
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:43 p.m.
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Wow didn't think I'd say this with Duchene as part of the deal but what a massive overpay for Drouin


it is. But duchene has one of the worst contracts in the league, and for that habs to take that contract is gonna need something sweet along side it
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Nashville isn’t giving up a 1st to get rid of duchene and taking a mental patient back lol


I'm not sure that he's a mental patient. Mental illness is a real disease. That was just uncalled for and, frankly, a childish comment from someone who either does not know enough about the subject or isn't mature enough to understand it.

If I am Nashville, I JUMP at the opportunity to get rid of his contract. Remember: they've tried to. To get rid of that albatross contract for just two years of Drouin - who likely gets you, at minimum, 40-50 points - is something that I would personally want. Now, if I am Montreal, I would have to think really hard about taking on Duchene's contract, even with a first coming back. If I were Montreal, I absolutely wouldn't do it. But that's just my opinion, so please don't hate. smile
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy739
you're kidding right
Took half the season off
Still did more then Duchene last year

Drouin may have had a bad year
But Duchene declined harder then Lecavlier


In fairness I am less than a fan of Drouin. Still waiting for that first awesome hustle back check from him.
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Still not sure if a single 1st is worth it. Drouin is slightly overpaid but at least it is only for 1 more year and his issues are mental, Duchesne on the other hand is extremely overpaid and his problem is he is just too soft. I will take 1 year of Drouin at 5.5 over 5 years of Duchesne at 8 Mil. Unless Nashville wants to throw in a couple of really nice peices. Make us want Duchesne's cap hit, this doesn't even come close.


Id do it for the potential of a top 10 pick in a stacked draft with the potential of drafting wright
Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:48 p.m.
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Id do it for the potential of a top 10 pick in a stacked draft with the potential of drafting wright


That is a slim chance and even if you do you are likely trading KK later but still have Zuke, Caufield and Romanov to resign and not enough money to go around once Wright comes off his ELC.
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:53 p.m.
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That is a slim chance and even if you do you are likely trading KK later but still have Zuke, Caufield and Romanov to resign and not enough money to go around once Wright comes off his ELC.


KK will have to get moved if they land wright 100%. I believe price will have 1 more year on his deal on wrights final year of his elc. It is possible to move some pieces around, and if they put weber on ltir for the rest of his contract, theyll have some room to sign those guys
Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:56 p.m.
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Drouin was better than Duchene last year, makes $2.5M less per year and his contract expires three years earlier than Duchene's.

It's an easy pass for MTL... in two years Suzuki, KK, Caufield, Romanov, Poehling, Evans, etc. will all be under new deals with the habs. The cap space is far more important than a late 1st round pick (Carolina is a good team).
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
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KK will have to get moved if they land wright 100%. I believe price will have 1 more year on his deal on wrights final year of his elc. It is possible to move some pieces around, and if they put weber on ltir for the rest of his contract, theyll have some room to sign those guys


It's a lot to depend on going right though cause if we end up with the 15th OVA pick instead (which is more likely) you just took on an 8 Mil Duchesne for basically crap.
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 4:01 p.m.
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It's a lot to depend on going right though cause if we end up with the 15th OVA pick instead (which is more likely) you just took on an 8 Mil Duchesne for basically crap.


thats fair, im just kinda banking on nashville tanking as soon as they move him
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 4:04 p.m.
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In fairness I am less than a fan of Drouin. Still waiting for that first awesome hustle back check from him.


That's not his job really as MTL has 11 other forwards capable of that
He's basically the only Forward we got who gives us consistent PP Points
5v5 he's kinda of a floater who distributes the puck and leads odd man breakaways

We have All Kinds of Quality Checkers
We have really only Drouin as a quality Playmaker
Most of our guys lean into Goal Scoring but also create's assists off Rebounds usually
Drouin's a Playmaker who sets up quality goal scoring chances especially on PP

He's got his issues but our PP blows in general
Through 3 different PP system changes he's remained constantly producing for MTL

I'd feel a ton better if he was making 4.25m dollars on the term he got
But honestly the BS with the french media he has to endure is surely worth what he's overpaid
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.
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If I'm Montreal I'm not taking Duchene without at least $2M retention. I'd be more inclined to consider Johansen (year younger and year less term), foregoing the 1st, but even then I'd be hesitant without retention.

Taking $8M for 4-5 years is a major commitment for a questionable possibility of a short term gain. If KK meets expectations, that's a brutal contract for a 3C.

The only way this might happen is if KK bombs this season, Drouin doesn't have an excellent season, and one of those centers has at least a decent performance.

Montreal shouldn't consider this right now, but maybe something to look at if it makes sense later in the season.

Johansen ($2M retained) for Drouin
Johansen with $1M retained and Allard for Drouin, then Montreal and Nashville both give a pick (3rd?) to a third party for the other $1M retention.
Johansen with the 1st going to a 3rd party for $2M retention (like Buffalo) for Drouin.
Just a few examples based on your trade proposal.
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Aug. 20, 2021 at 4:44 p.m.
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That's not his job really as MTL has 11 other forwards capable of that
He's basically the only Forward we got who gives us consistent PP Points
5v5 he's kinda of a floater who distributes the puck and leads odd man breakaways

We have All Kinds of Quality Checkers
We have really only Drouin as a quality Playmaker
Most of our guys lean into Goal Scoring but also create's assists off Rebounds usually
Drouin's a Playmaker who sets up quality goal scoring chances especially on PP

He's got his issues but our PP blows in general
Through 3 different PP system changes he's remained constantly producing for MTL

I'd feel a ton better if he was making 4.25m dollars on the term he got
But honestly the BS with the french media he has to endure is surely worth what he's overpaid


I get all that but and I've watched him a lot just think he's lazy.
Aug. 20, 2021 at 5:07 p.m.
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I'm not sure that he's a mental patient. Mental illness is a real disease. That was just uncalled for and, frankly, a childish comment from someone who either does not know enough about the subject or isn't mature enough to understand it.

If I am Nashville, I JUMP at the opportunity to get rid of his contract. Remember: they've tried to. To get rid of that albatross contract for just two years of Drouin - who likely gets you, at minimum, 40-50 points - is something that I would personally want. Now, if I am Montreal, I would have to think really hard about taking on Duchene's contract, even with a first coming back. If I were Montreal, I absolutely wouldn't do it. But that's just my opinion, so please don't hate. smile

it was just a joke because I don’t think he even has a mental issue at all. I forgot we live in a very sensitive world now. Sorry if I offended you.
But going to the duchene trade. Nashville is in the middle of a soft rebuild. Nashville isn’t going to give u a 1st to get rid of a contract that they don’t really have to get rid of. Especially for a 1st that could help the rebuild. Nashville is not a cap strap team
 
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