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Skinner

Created by: Twins1568
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 21, 2021
Published: Aug. 21, 2021
Team: 2021-22 New Jersey Devils
Trades
1.
NJD
  1. Thompson, Tage
  2. Skinner, Jeff ($1,000,000 retained)
BUF
  1. Subban, P.K.
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
2.
NJD
  1. Johnson, Ryan [Reserve List]
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
Added to trade
BUF
    Buyouts
    • Cory Schneider: $2,000,000
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Will Butcher: $910,569 (24%)
    Recapture Fees
    • Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2022
    NJD
    NJD
    BUF
    NJD
    NJD
    EDM
    NYI
    CBJ
    NJD
    NJD
    2023
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    2024
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    NJD
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$67,389,735$0$4,607,500$14,110,265
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    BUF
    Skinner, Jeff
    $8,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    NJD
    Hischier, Nico
    $7,250,000
    C
    UFA - 6
    NJD
    Sharangovich, Yegor
    $2,000,000
    RW, LW, C
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Zacha, Pavel
    $2,250,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Hughes, Jack
    $925,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    NJD
    Tatar, Tomas
    $4,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    NJD
    Wood, Miles
    $2,750,000
    LW
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Mcleod, Michael
    $975,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Holtz, Alexander
    $925,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 3
    NJD
    Bratt, Jesper
    $2,750,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    BUF
    Thompson, Tage
    $1,400,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Thompson, Tyce
    $912,500
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    NJD
    Smith, Ty
    $863,333
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Hamilton, Dougie
    $9,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    NJD
    Bernier, Jonathan
    $4,125,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    NJD
    Graves, Ryan
    $3,166,667
    LD
    UFA - 2
    NJD
    Severson, Damon
    $4,166,666
    RD
    UFA - 2
    NJD
    Blackwood, Mackenzie
    $2,800,000
    G
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Siegenthaler, Jonas
    $1,125,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Jaros, Christian
    $800,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    NJD
    Boqvist, Jesper
    $925,000
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Bahl, Kevin
    $795,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    NJD
    Kuokkanen, Janne
    $1,825,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 2

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    Aug. 21 at 10:30 a.m.
    #1
    Joined: Jul. 2018
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    IMO, NJ easily declines or Buff needs to add a lot
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    Aug. 21 at 10:35 a.m.
    #2
    Joined: May 2016
    Posts: 405
    Likes: 220
    You do know Skinner's deal is really long right?

    This makes no sense for NJD. Terrible idea
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    Aug. 21 at 10:41 a.m.
    #3
    Dumdog
    Joined: Oct. 2020
    Posts: 69
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    gonna need at least next years first for the devils to accept it unprotected. i think the devils would still say no though.
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    Aug. 21 at 10:52 a.m.
    #4
    Joined: Apr. 2021
    Posts: 30
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    8 MIL FOR A 35-36 YR OLD JEFF SKINNER AT END OF THE DEAL SOUNDS AWESOME
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    Aug. 21 at 10:57 a.m.
    #5
    Joined: Jun. 2019
    Posts: 1,404
    Likes: 608
    I can see why nobody would take skinner.

    But there is no reason for buffalo to dump prospects and high picks to trade him.
    Radu47, Dumdog, vikhodush and 2 others liked this.
    Aug. 21 at 10:58 a.m.
    #6
    Joined: Jun. 2019
    Posts: 1,404
    Likes: 608
    Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
    I can see why nobody would take skinner.

    But there is no reason for buffalo to dump prospects and high picks to trade him.


    They will just run with skinner for the next few years and when they are ready to compete maybe they contemplate trading other stock to move him
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    Aug. 21 at 11:04 a.m.
    #7
    Joined: May 2019
    Posts: 12,896
    Likes: 5,250
    Replace Tage, RyJo and the pick with Dahlin
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    Aug. 21 at 11:37 a.m.
    #8
    Vegan Commie Hipster
    Joined: Oct. 2020
    Posts: 7,832
    Likes: 3,228
    If NJ could restructure the Skinner deal so the entire 48M cap hit occurred this year then it could theoretically be viable for them but otherwise

    That's an absolutely absurd suggestion

    Not worthy of our time
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    Aug. 21 at 11:41 a.m.
    #9
    Vegan Commie Hipster
    Joined: Oct. 2020
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    Subban and AJo are not negative assets to NJ whatsoever as they have tonnes of cap this year and a healthy amount next year, plz research fully

    If this was Boston who are 100% all in this year and if they theoretically had 12M in meh assets then maybe it works but this really needs to be re-thought

    AJ will rebound this year like ghost and have + value

    Skinner is one of the worst contracts in NHL history

    Especially given nmc
    Aug. 21 at 12:18 p.m.
    #10
    rktkt66
    Joined: Jun. 2018
    Posts: 252
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    Skinner's NMC is there for a reason - he likes playing close to his Toronto home and family. While his cap hit is excessive for what he is, he's still a capable 30 goal scorer if he's not shackled in a defense-first system, playing with 4th liners for 10 minutes a night like the idiot Krueger imposed on him. It's hard to remember the free-flowing, offensive style under Housley that Skinner flourished in after the stench of Krueger's disastrous 2 years is still so strong - but Skinner will likely rebound this year under a similar offensive style for Granato as what Housley endorsed. He won't have Eichel feeding him passes but he scored 30-goals often in Carolina without a premier center.
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    Aug. 21 at 12:37 p.m.
    #11
    Sabres are elite
    Joined: Jun. 2017
    Posts: 5,861
    Likes: 1,951
    That trade doesn't help the Sabres. If Skinner gets proper ice time and deployment, and I think he will under Granato, then I'm very confident he will return to producing like a top line player
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    Aug. 21 at 1:31 p.m.
    #12
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 2,819
    Likes: 1,225
    Quoting: rktkt66
    Skinner's NMC is there for a reason - he likes playing close to his Toronto home and family. While his cap hit is excessive for what he is, he's still a capable 30 goal scorer if he's not shackled in a defense-first system, playing with 4th liners for 10 minutes a night like the idiot Krueger imposed on him. It's hard to remember the free-flowing, offensive style under Housley that Skinner flourished in after the stench of Krueger's disastrous 2 years is still so strong - but Skinner will likely rebound this year under a similar offensive style for Granato as what Housley endorsed. He won't have Eichel feeding him passes but he scored 30-goals often in Carolina without a premier center.


    I agree with most of this but he played with E. Staal and Lindholm quite a bit in CAR when he was putting up numbers
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    Aug. 21 at 8:53 p.m.
    #13
    Thread Starter
    Joined: Jan. 2021
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    Quoting: Radu47
    If NJ could restructure the Skinner deal so the entire 48M cap hit occurred this year then it could theoretically be viable for them but otherwise

    That's an absolutely absurd suggestion

    Not worthy of our time


    Then pass
    Aug. 22 at 12:04 p.m.
    #14
    Joined: Apr. 2018
    Posts: 2,758
    Likes: 2,109
    Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
    They will just run with skinner for the next few years and when they are ready to compete maybe they contemplate trading other stock to move him
    Quoting: rktkt66
    Skinner's NMC is there for a reason - ....
    Quoting: Skyraider112
    ... If Skinner gets proper ice time and deployment...he will return...
    Quoting: vikhodush
    I agree with most of this but he played with E. Staal and Lindholm quite a bit in CAR when he was putting up numbers
    2017-'18 his #1 center was Derek Ryan- 24 goals
    2016-'17 Derek Ryan and Victor Rask 37 goals
    2015-'16 Victor Rask 28 goals.
    2014-'15 Victor Rask 18 goals.
    2013-'14 Staal and Lindholm 33 goals.
    Let's not forget he gets very little PP time and was among the top five forward prior to two years ago scoring EV goals.
    He will return and score, maybe not 40, but a lot more than 7 and 14.
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