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Exchanging Headaches

Created by: OldNYIfan
Initial Creation Date: Aug 21, 2021
Published: Aug 21 at 1:51
Team: 2021-22 Minnesota Wild
Team Explanation
Not entirely serious; just imagining that Guerin and management might get fed up negotiating with KK and his agents. The Sabres can certainly afford to pay him, and Buffalo is practically BALMY in comparison to Moscow in the winter. Everybody gambles.

Think Minnesota has enough left-handed defensemen on the depth chart?

My Wild friends can tell us which two forwards get promoted from Iowa.
Trades
MIN
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Kaprizov, Kirill [RFA Rights]
  2. Rask, Victor
  3. Rossi, Marco
  4. 2022 1st round pick (MIN)
Buyouts
  • Ryan Suter: $2,371,794
  • Zach Parise: $2,371,794
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
SJS
MIN
2023
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2024
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$75,180,255$0$132,500$6,319,745
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MIN
Fiala, Kevin
$5,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 5
MIN
Zuccarello, Mats
$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
$3,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
$5,250,000
C
UFA - 8
MIN
Hartman, Ryan
$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
MIN
Greenway, Jordan
$2,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MIN
Sturm, Nico
$725,000
C
UFA - 1
MIN
Bjugstad, Nick
$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
MIN
Rau, Kyle
$750,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
MIN
Gaudreau, Frédérick
$1,200,000
C
UFA - 2
MIN
Cramarossa, Joseph
$750,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Talbot, Cam
$3,666,667
G
UFA - 2
MIN
Goligoski, Alex
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 1
MIN
Dumba, Matt
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Kähkönen, Kaapo
$725,000
G
RFA - 1
MIN
Kulikov, Dmitry
$2,250,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Addison, Calen
$795,000
RD
RFA - 2
MIN
Merrill, Jon
$850,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Aug 21 at 1:52
#1
AntreDiAnaheim
Joined: Dec 2019
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Massive overpay
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Aug 21 at 1:55
#2
Thread Starter
First NY Then LA
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Quoting: AntreDiAnaheim
Massive overpay


You wait. Buffalo guys will say Add Boldy.
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Aug 21 at 2:23
#3
Joined: May 2018
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
You wait. Buffalo guys will say Add Boldy.


Nah. Switch Boldy and Rossi. Add something really good if Kaprizov doesn't sign...
Aug 21 at 2:26
#4
Joined: Aug 2020
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
You wait. Buffalo guys will say Add Boldy.


Buffalo guys should get comfortable with Ryan Strome, NYR 22 1st, and Kravtsov.
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Aug 21 at 2:27
#5
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Quoting: Riley816
Nah. Switch Boldy and Rossi. Add something really good if Kaprizov doesn't sign...


Why are we acting like Kaprizov has the value of a late 1st here? He will sign a 3 year bridge to UFA at 7/8 mil.
Aug 21 at 2:30
#6
Joined: May 2018
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Quoting: jnowariak
Buffalo guys should get comfortable with Ryan Strome, NYR 22 1st, and Kravtsov.


Eichel should get comfortable being a Sabre...
Aug 21 at 2:41
#7
Billy739
Joined: Dec 2017
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Quoting: AntreDiAnaheim
Massive overpay


Only if you believe Karprisov isnt serious about leaving for the KHL
Think about it , Top NHL Rookie leaves NHL in search of his Gagarin cup with his 2019 fresh in his mind
Its an Advertisers Wet Dream and the type of move the KHL has been looking to make

They're offering him top Dollar
Advertising money over there is huge
Plus his Center Grigorenko returned to the KHL
He won the cup with him and they have great chemistry
Plus their team got Fedotov the 6'8 KHL Standout Goalie and PHI Flyers Prospect

There's a lot of appeal and leverage to be gained by his rumored 1 year 10 million dollar deal
Not only does he put the KHL and MIN in a bidding war for maximum profit
He also pushes the teams to put together a team worth playing for

I think Kaprizov leaves for KHL with the deal he has in place
I gotta think being traded just reinforces that move to the KHL
That has to bring down his value in the trade market vs a player like Eichel
Now BUF gotta pay him more then Eichel just to get a seat at the Negotiation Table
Aug 21 at 2:43
#8
Billy739
Joined: Dec 2017
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Quoting: jnowariak
Why are we acting like Kaprizov has the value of a late 1st here? He will sign a 3 year bridge to UFA at 7/8 mil.


Deals already in place in the KHL
Trade Talks have been stalled for months
Kap's Agent said last offer was in April from MIN
Aug 21 at 2:52
#9
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 3,120
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Quoting: Billy739
Karprisov isnt serious about leaving for the KHL


Yes, that's correct
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Aug 21 at 2:53
#10
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Quoting: Billy739
Deals already in place in the KHL
Trade Talks have been stalled for months
Kap's Agent said last offer was in April from MIN


Multiple Russian sources have come out and said Kaprizov has no deal in place to play in the KHL this season, certainly not for 10M
Ilya Sorokin (Kaprizov's former CSKA teammate) laughed when asked if it was true that Kaprizov was going back to the KHL
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Aug 21 at 3:22
#11
Billy739
Joined: Dec 2017
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Quoting: Caerii
Multiple Russian sources have come out and said Kaprizov has no deal in place to play in the KHL this season, certainly not for 10M
Ilya Sorokin (Kaprizov's former CSKA teammate) laughed when asked if it was true that Kaprizov was going back to the KHL


His Agent seems to think different
I'll take a statement by the man handling Kap's business in regards to this subject
Over a Russian Goaltender laughing at something . . .

Why be one of many in the NHL
When you can be the Micheal Jordan of the KHL
Taking the League to the next level Commercially

They've Captured Markets putting Expansion Teams in Markets NHL cant get Viewers consistently
They've got teams in 6 countries with another half Dozen Nations with bids on the next Expansion Teams.
Right now a Home Grown star who chose to come back from North America basically as soon as he got there


Especially if he Appears to be Snubbing the NHL to choose the NHL
He'll become the new Kovalchuk with the difference being he had a Choice while Kovy was ousted by NHL really
Aug 21 at 3:28
#12
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Quoting: Billy739
His Agent seems to think different
I'll take a statement by the man handling Kap's business in regards to this subject
Over a Russian Goaltender laughing at something . . .

Why be one of many in the NHL
When you can be the Micheal Jordan of the KHL
Taking the League to the next level Commercially

They've Captured Markets putting Expansion Teams in Markets NHL cant get Viewers consistently
They've got teams in 6 countries with another half Dozen Nations with bids on the next Expansion Teams.
Right now a Home Grown star who chose to come back from North America basically as soon as he got there


Especially if he Appears to be Snubbing the NHL to choose the NHL
He'll become the new Kovalchuk with the difference being he had a Choice while Kovy was ousted by NHL really



You're going to take an agent trying to use the only leverage he has to get his client a good contract over multiple different media sources whose job it is to uncover truth from both sides?
You're willingly and blindly trusting the most biased guy in the equation?

The KHL season has started. If he was going to play in the KHL this year, he'd be playing there right now.
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Aug 21 at 3:40
#13
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 945
Likes: 281
That's fair, I don't know if it actually advances either team but it's fair
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Aug 21 at 3:53
#14
MNBassman
Joined: May 2015
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I’m not sure I would trade just Rossi and a 1st for Eichel. That’s how little I am interested in him!
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Aug 21 at 4:02
#15
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Quoting: Riley816
Nah. Switch Boldy and Rossi. Add something really good if Kaprizov doesn't sign...


Minnesota says no and watches eichel retire from the Sabres due to injury and frustration with the organization
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Aug 21 at 4:05
#16
Shibbal18
Joined: Jan 2016
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Quoting: jnowariak
Buffalo guys should get comfortable with Ryan Strome, NYR 22 1st, and Kravtsov.


Rangers fans should get comfortable with Eichel not being on the team
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Aug 21 at 4:05
#17
Shibbal18
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Quoting: VastBluepuppy424
Minnesota says no and watches eichel retire from the Sabres due to injury and frustration with the organization


I hope
Aug 21 at 4:06
#18
Shibbal18
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Quoting: MNBassman
I’m not sure I would trade just Rossi and a 1st for Eichel. That’s how little I am interested in him!


Yes you would
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Aug 21 at 4:07
#19
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I hope


that or he pulls a Carson Palmer
Aug 21 at 4:10
#20
Shibbal18
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Quoting: VastBluepuppy424
that or he pulls a Carson Palmer


I dont watch football so i dont know what happened, but googling him, i found out his middle name is Hilton
Aug 21 at 4:12
#21
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I dont watch football so i dont know what happened, but googling him, i found out his middle name is Hilton


think of the Jack eichel situation but he stayed at home and the Sabres organization Don't need him anymore so he get traded for a 1st and 2nd
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Aug 21 at 5:59
#22
Hockey Fan13
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I think this is a overpay by the Wild. All the guys who stay in contact with KK say this is just the agent pulling strings and he will be back in Minnesota.
I do really want Eichle in MN. Even with his neck surgery being on hold I don't expect Sabres to give him away, but I just don't see Sabres getting a package this good since no one has offered anything close to what Sabres have asked. Really sounds like Sabres don't want to play ball.
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Aug 21 at 6:43
#23
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I actually don't hate the idea of Eichel for Kaprizov (I've been oaboard the Eichel train since it left the station and I'm not hopping off), but if Kaprizov's agent is acting like this on a semi-competitive team like the Wild, can you imagine how he'd act if his client were in Buffalo? I can't see the Sabres having much interest in Kaprizov solely due to the fact that it would take a miracle for him to not walk after his next deal. The Sabres are also re-re-building and Kaprizov is probably just slightly out of their desired age range.
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Aug 21 at 7:36
#24
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@MNBassman
@OutCold13
@Tansor

You guys forgot to fill out my roster for me
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Aug 21 at 8:13
#25
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
MNBassman
OutCold13
Tansor

You guys forgot to fill out my roster for me


I think it looks mostly fine, though I'd pencil Dewar in on the fourth line. If Kaprizov is going to Buffalo, I'd say Rossi (and Boldy) would be off the table and I have a feeling he may make the team in camp even if I'd like to see him marinate for a while in Iowa
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