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Team: 2022-23 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 22, 2021
Published: Aug. 22, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$925,000
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,250,000
2$750,000
2$750,000
2$950,000
1$750,000
2$950,000
2$750,000
2$3,000,000
7$8,500,000
6$6,200,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$5,000,000
2$4,000,000
1$1,250,000
1$750,000
2$1,750,000
Trades
1.
CAR
  1. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Trade done before 2021-22 season
MIN
    Niederreiter, Nino
    Trocheck, Vincent
    2.
    CAR
      Lindholm, Hampus
      TOR
      1. Gardiner, Jake
      2. Gunler, Noel [Reserve List]
      3. 2022 2nd round pick (CAR)
      Additional Details:
      2021-22 Trade deadline deal
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2022
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      Logo of the ANA
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      Logo of the CBJ
      2023
      Logo of the CAR
      Logo of the CAR
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      Logo of the CAR
      Logo of the CAR
      Logo of the CAR
      2024
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      23$81,500,000$81,266,917$112,500$500,000$233,083
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
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      $8,500,000$8,500,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 7
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $8,460,250$8,460,250
      C
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $5,400,000$5,400,000
      LW, RW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      $6,200,000$6,200,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 7
      $4,000,000$4,000,000
      C
      UFA - 4
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $3,000,000$3,000,000
      RW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $1,800,000$1,800,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $925,000$925,000
      C
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
      RW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $6,000,000$6,000,000
      C, LW
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $2,000,000$2,000,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
      $1,750,000$1,750,000
      LW
      UFA - 3
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $5,300,000$5,300,000
      LD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $4,025,000$4,025,000
      RD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $4,500,000$4,500,000
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      $5,000,000$5,000,000
      LD
      UFA - 8
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $2,250,000$2,250,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $2,000,000$2,000,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $5,250,000$5,250,000
      LD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      $1,250,000$1,250,000
      RD
      UFA - 2
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      $750,000$750,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $950,000$950,000
      RD
      RFA
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      $950,000$950,000
      C, LW, RW
      UFA - 2

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      Aug. 22, 2021 at 7:17 a.m.
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      You’re way short on Necas and bear deals. The Fiala trade is rejected by canes and they’re gonna extend him and not sign malkin
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 7:20 a.m.
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      Why are the leafs taking on a bad contract atthr deadline?
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 8:06 a.m.
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      Quoting: JaredOfLondon
      Why are the leafs taking on a bad contract atthr deadline?


      Gardiner is out for the year, this would be their way of acquiring more cap space. This isn't aimed at you specifically, but I wish people would research this stuff before they commented.

      Also, judging by the fact the trade is for Hampus Lindholm, I'm assuming the team is meant to be Anaheim
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 8:19 a.m.
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      Quoting: JaredOfLondon
      Why are the leafs taking on a bad contract atthr deadline?


      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Gardiner is out for the year, this would be their way of acquiring more cap space. This isn't aimed at you specifically, but I wish people would research this stuff before they commented.

      Also, judging by the fact the trade is for Hampus Lindholm, I'm assuming the team is meant to be Anaheim


      Yes, thank you. My mistake. I had original had a similar trade for Morgan Rielly but changed it to Hampus Lindholm since I figured the Ducks were probably more likely to be selling at deadline. Jake Gardiner may be on LTIR all year and then has reasonable buy-out the following year. Including him in deal is a cap space move.
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 8:26 a.m.
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      Quoting: NYRFan92360244
      Yes, thank you. My mistake. I had original had a similar trade for Morgan Rielly but changed it to Hampus Lindholm since I figured the Ducks were probably more likely to be selling at deadline. Jake Gardiner may be on LTIR all year and then has reasonable buy-out the following year. Including him in deal is a cap space move.


      If he has back surgery this summer, he's an LTIRetirement
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 8:29 a.m.
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Gardiner is out for the year, this would be their way of acquiring more cap space. This isn't aimed at you specifically, but I wish people would research this stuff before they commented.

      Also, judging by the fact the trade is for Hampus Lindholm, I'm assuming the team is meant to be Anaheim


      Any report on this?
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 8:35 a.m.
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Gardiner is out for the year, this would be their way of acquiring more cap space. This isn't aimed at you specifically, but I wish people would research this stuff before they commented.

      Also, judging by the fact the trade is for Hampus Lindholm, I'm assuming the team is meant to be Anaheim


      "For the year" is doing a lot of work here, what about next year? Does this do cap magic for then too?
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 8:44 a.m.
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      Any report on this?


      Yeah, look it up on twitter. There's loads of them.
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 8:44 a.m.
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      Quoting: JaredOfLondon
      "For the year" is doing a lot of work here, what about next year? Does this do cap magic for then too?


      If he has back surgery this summer, it's very unlikely he plays again. And even if he does, it's the same money he was making in toronto in the first place.
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 8:52 a.m.
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      Yeah, look it up on twitter. There's loads of them.


      If "loads" means literally nothing, then yes.
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 8:54 a.m.
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      Quoting: bhavikp27
      If "loads" means literally nothing, then yes.


      Look up Sara civ, it's from about a month ago now
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 9:03 a.m.
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      If he has back surgery this summer, it's very unlikely he plays again. And even if he does, it's the same money he was making in toronto in the first place.


      Except that if he does make it back, he's awful now and the leafs dont need him even if he's 'ok'.
      And just because you have a guy ltir it doesnt gift you magical cap space, there are a whole bunch of strings attached
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 9:10 a.m.
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      Quoting: JaredOfLondon
      Except that if he does make it back, he's awful now and the leafs dont need him even if he's 'ok'.
      And just because you have a guy ltir it doesnt gift you magical cap space, there are a whole bunch of strings attached


      Strings that the leafs have because they spend 40 million on 4 players and need help elsewhere....
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 9:13 a.m.
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      Quoting: NYRFan92360244
      Yes, thank you. My mistake. I had original had a similar trade for Morgan Rielly but changed it to Hampus Lindholm since I figured the Ducks were probably more likely to be selling at deadline. Jake Gardiner may be on LTIR all year and then has reasonable buy-out the following year. Including him in deal is a cap space move.


      Quoting: Caniac2000
      If he has back surgery this summer, he's an LTIRetirement


      If Gardiner is LTIR, or has surgery and is recovering from it, he can't be bought out. It's against the CBA. Then if he comes back to the lineup, any team is screwed for cap space.

      But I wish people would research this stuff before they commented.
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 9:14 a.m.
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      Quoting: TrueCanuck
      If Gardiner is LTIR, or has surgery and is recovering from it, he can't be bought out. It's against the CBA. Then if he comes back to the lineup, any team is screwed for cap space.

      But I wish people would research this stuff before they commented.


      He can be bought out once he's deemed healthy. That is IN the CBA. He doesn't have to play before that. Just has to be declared healthy by team doctors

      But I wish people would research this stuff before they commented
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 9:16 a.m.
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Strings that the leafs have because they spend 40 million on 4 players and need help elsewhere....


      No, strings that exist so teams dont just throw every problem contract in ltir like its an agm.
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 9:18 a.m.
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      He can be bought out once he's deemed healthy. That is IN the CBA. He doesn't have to play before that. Just has to be declared healthy by team doctors

      But I wish people would research this stuff before they commented


      You literally just said if he has surgery this off-season then he's "LTIRetirement", in other words you're deeming him non healthy to ever play again. The league has to approve buyouts and if the suspect it's circumventing the cap in any form, they won't.

      You also think it's gonna cost only a mediocre prospect and a 2nd rounder to dump 2 years of $4M cap hit? Carolina charged Toronto a 1st for 1 year of a $6M cap hit. If you don't mention a 1st in that kinda deal by your own teams standards then get outta here.

      These kids these days. Take your own advice. Do you research first.
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 9:28 a.m.
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      Quoting: JaredOfLondon
      No, strings that exist so teams dont just throw every problem contract in ltir like its an agm.


      Okay? Those strings still fit the leafs in this situation, and gardiner is legitimately undergoing back surgery... he's going to be LTIRed
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 9:29 a.m.
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      Quoting: TrueCanuck
      You literally just said if he has surgery this off-season then he's "LTIRetirement", in other words you're deeming him non healthy to ever play again. The league has to approve buyouts and if the suspect it's circumventing the cap in any form, they won't.

      You also think it's gonna cost only a mediocre prospect and a 2nd rounder to dump 2 years of $4M cap hit? Carolina charged Toronto a 1st for 1 year of a $6M cap hit. If you don't mention a 1st in that kinda deal by your own teams standards then get outta here.

      These kids these days. Take your own advice. Do you research first.


      It's 1 year, he's LTIRed this year, that's the point. And Gunler is one of the best prospects in the Canes organization buddy. You really should look into this stuff.

      Also, please learn to read. I said if he has the back surgery, he's an LTIRetirement. If he comes back, the buyout is like a mil. Either way, not a lot.
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 9:37 a.m.
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      It's 1 year, he's LTIRed this year, that's the point. And Gunler is one of the best prospects in the Canes organization buddy. You really should look into this stuff.

      Also, please learn to read. I said if he has the back surgery, he's an LTIRetirement. If he comes back, the buyout is like a mil. Either way, not a lot.


      Guess you can't read you're own writing or mine? So take your own advice again and learn to read. Cause I literally said that you said "if he's had surgery then he's LTIRetirement", don't know how much clearer that could have been 😂

      Also, sorry to hurt your feelings there kid but just because you think Gunler is one of Carolina's best prospects (not saying he is or isn't), but that doesn't make him any more of a mediocre prospect. He wouldn't even crack the top 50 prospects in the league, likely not the top 100 either. So he's still mediocre.
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 10:09 a.m.
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Okay? Those strings still fit the leafs in this situation, and gardiner is legitimately undergoing back surgery... he's going to be LTIRed


      Okay, they really dont fit the leafs situation if he comes back healthy next year and the leafs have a 4 mill boat anchor they dont need or want
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 10:17 a.m.
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      Quoting: JaredOfLondon
      "For the year" is doing a lot of work here, what about next year? Does this do cap magic for then too?


      I would bet money that Gards isn't out for the year. According to Adam Gold, a decently reliable source for Canes info, Carolina wants Gardiner to get a back surgery but Gardiner doesn't think he needs it. I'm not sure how those conflicts work out. Even if he gets the surgery this report makes it sound like he still wants to play and I'm not sure the surgery will take him out for a full 82 game season
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      Aug. 22, 2021 at 3:31 p.m.
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      Quoting: TrueCanuck
      Guess you can't read you're own writing or mine? So take your own advice again and learn to read. Cause I literally said that you said "if he's had surgery then he's LTIRetirement", don't know how much clearer that could have been 😂

      Also, sorry to hurt your feelings there kid but just because you think Gunler is one of Carolina's best prospects (not saying he is or isn't), but that doesn't make him any more of a mediocre prospect. He wouldn't even crack the top 50 prospects in the league, likely not the top 100 either. So he's still mediocre.


      Sorry to prove you wrong, but Gunler is ranked 32nd among Forward prospects, and is rated as the 3rd best prospect in the organization after Jarvis and Suzuki (Elite Prospects)

      If he comes back, it's a 1 mil buyout. If he doesn't it's 4 mil in cap. For that you gain one of the best shooting prospects league wide. That's well worth it, learn to read buddy!
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 3:32 p.m.
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      Quoting: JaredOfLondon
      Okay, they really dont fit the leafs situation if he comes back healthy next year and the leafs have a 4 mill boat anchor they dont need or want


      Buy him out, it would use up less than the cap is going up by...
      Aug. 22, 2021 at 3:47 p.m.
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Sorry to prove you wrong, but Gunler is ranked 32nd among Forward prospects, and is rated as the 3rd best prospect in the organization after Jarvis and Suzuki (Elite Prospects)

      If he comes back, it's a 1 mil buyout. If he doesn't it's 4 mil in cap. For that you gain one of the best shooting prospects league wide. That's well worth it, learn to read buddy!


      Thanks for proving me right! So Gunler isn't a top 50, because by the time you add in defenceman and goalies that pushes him out of the top 50. But nice try only using forwards to try to validate your opinion. Better luck next time kid!

      Oh and Gardiner's buyout is just over $1M in the first year and $1.4M in the second year. Takes more than a mediocre prospect and pick for that. Cap space is king. Try again some other days though bud!
       
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