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Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 23, 2021
Published: Aug. 23, 2021
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Trying to aquire 1st from teams that need certain position's. These should be close from what I have seen from both sides. Then use the 1st +++ to get Eichel with retaining. Don't kill me.. just looking at what ifs. Buffalo GM can say he got his 4 1st and then some. Rangers just aquire other teams 1st to do it. Doesn't effect the Rangers pick pool much I do think Chytil can become Buch 2.0
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  2. Eichel, Jack ($2,500,000 retained)
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  2. Kravtsov, Vitali
  3. Schneider, Braden
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  5. 2022 1st round pick (MTL)
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Aug. 23, 2021 at 7:40 p.m.
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I think we need to tak back koskinen for the EDM trade to work
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Aug. 23, 2021 at 7:41 p.m.
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MTL aint paying a first for Strome
Aug. 23, 2021 at 7:44 p.m.
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Quoting: NYR1983
I think we need to tak back koskinen for the EDM trade to work


If need be. There's cap room this year. Or they run with 3 for the hot hand.
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Aug. 23, 2021 at 7:48 p.m.
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MTL aint paying a first for Strome


I have seen Montreal fans giving a player/prospects/2nd/3rd for Hertl. Maybe he's better than Strome but that much? Both in last year of contract
Aug. 23, 2021 at 7:52 p.m.
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Montreal says keep trying, KK and Zuke will both be better than Strome and Poehling or Evans could turn out to be his equal.
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Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:01 p.m.
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Montreal says keep trying, KK and Zuke will both be better than Strome and Poehling or Evans could turn out to be his equal.


My bad. I thought they were trying to win this year. Those guys aren't ready yet
Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:30 p.m.
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My bad. I thought they were trying to win this year. Those guys aren't ready yet


Strome doesn't push either Kk or Zuke out of the top 2 spots and he isn't a defensive 3rd line center either. Therefore he isn't helping win now.
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Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:35 p.m.
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MTL aint paying a first for Strome

I’m doing it… it won’t be a top 10 pick more like between 20 to 25
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Aug. 23, 2021 at 8:37 p.m.
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Man I wish everybody would realize the DRAFT IS IN MONTREAL IN 2022! They will be acquiring picks for that draft not trading any of theirs unless it is to move up. Any trade proposals with picks from Montreal will be 2023 or beyond
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Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:04 p.m.
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I’m doing it… it won’t be a top 10 pick more like between 20 to 25


Lol Strome isnt the guy that will help us beating one of BOS, FLA or TOR for a spot…. That pick has more chances to be top 16
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Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:14 p.m.
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Quoting: math731
Lol Strome isnt the guy that will help us beating one of BOS, FLA or TOR for a spot…. That pick has more chances to be top 16


Even if it’s a top 16 pick it’s still worth a guy who’s gonna score 55-60 points every year… He might even resign after…He’s not my first option (Dvorak,Hertl,Schmaltz,Dylan Strome etc) but you gotta give to receive and I’m willing to pay that price for a bonafide 2C
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Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:31 p.m.
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this seems bad for edm.
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Aug. 23, 2021 at 9:48 p.m.
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I'll say what a Rangers fan would say-you don't get Eichel without Laffy or Kakko be happy you don't have to part with Fox (which I would not do)
Aug. 24, 2021 at 1:46 a.m.
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You're asking the wrong "what if". The real questions is this.....what if Jack Eichel were actually worth 4, 1st round pieces like Adams wants? Wouldn't he have been traded by now? Why haven't the Kings jumped at the chance to give up 4, 1st rounders for him? Jack is sooooo good and worth at least 4, first rounders, ask any Buffalo fan.....so why is he still a Saber? Why hasn't Anaheim jumped at the chance to give up 4 first rounders for Jack? Why haven't the Ranger's jumped at the chance to give up 4 first rounders for him?????? Why hasn't ANY TEAM jumped at the chance to give up 4 first rounders for Jack Eichel???? The answer is......HE ISN'T WORTH THAT MUCH, EVEN WHEN HE'S HEALTHY.....AND HE'S NOT HEALTHY. Buffalo's GM is out of his mind.
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Aug. 24, 2021 at 1:25 p.m.
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Quoting: delneggs
You're asking the wrong "what if". The real questions is this.....what if Jack Eichel were actually worth 4, 1st round pieces like Adams wants? Wouldn't he have been traded by now? Why haven't the Kings jumped at the chance to give up 4, 1st rounders for him? Jack is sooooo good and worth at least 4, first rounders, ask any Buffalo fan.....so why is he still a Saber? Why hasn't Anaheim jumped at the chance to give up 4 first rounders for Jack? Why haven't the Ranger's jumped at the chance to give up 4 first rounders for him?????? Why hasn't ANY TEAM jumped at the chance to give up 4 first rounders for Jack Eichel???? The answer is......HE ISN'T WORTH THAT MUCH, EVEN WHEN HE'S HEALTHY.....AND HE'S NOT HEALTHY. Buffalo's GM is out of his mind.
That is a boat load for jack.
I seriously doubt Drury would make an offer even close to that.
More than likely it would be Strome, Chytil (or Kravtsov), Georgiev, 2022 first and second.
On the other hand this is a quiet time in the NHL and historically few trades are made now.
You also cannot say with certainty that every one of those teams HAVE NOT MADE an offer that meet those conditions and Karmanos is considering offers.
But to your point which you will disagree, he is not worth 4 4th OA picks, but he is worth more than 4 20th OA picks.
EDM, NYR and MTL will all be close to the 20th OA.
To put that in perspective If I as an NHL GM had the 20th, 21st and 22nd OA and offered them to a team with the 2nd OA, historically most NHL GM's would say no to that trade.
To further that point if I also had the 23rd and 24th in addition to the 20th, 21st and 22nd OA , the team with the first OA would probably not take those five picks for a first OA.

You can go to https://www.broadstreethockey.com/2013/4/25/4262594/nhl-draft-pick-value-trading-up to see what value GM put on draft picks.
Aug. 24, 2021 at 1:35 p.m.
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That is a boat load for jack.
I seriously doubt Drury would make an offer even close to that.
More than likely it would be Strome, Chytil (or Kravtsov), Georgiev, 2022 first and second.
On the other hand this is a quiet time in the NHL and historically few trades are made now.
You also cannot say with certainty that every one of those teams HAVE NOT MADE an offer that meet those conditions and Karmanos is considering offers.
But to your point which you will disagree, he is not worth 4 4th OA picks, but he is worth more than 4 20th OA picks.
EDM, NYR and MTL will all be close to the 20th OA.
To put that in perspective If I as an NHL GM had the 20th, 21st and 22nd OA and offered them to a team with the 2nd OA, historically most NHL GM's would say no to that trade.
To further that point if I also had the 23rd and 24th in addition to the 20th, 21st and 22nd OA , the team with the first OA would probably not take those five picks for a first OA.

You can go to https://www.broadstreethockey.com/2013/4/25/4262594/nhl-draft-pick-value-trading-up to see what value GM put on draft picks.


Buffalo isn't asking for just draft picks. They want at least 4 pieces in the trade that equate to an equivalent of four 1st round picks, which is a lot different. Draft picks don't always pan out (a.k.a Lias Andersson), so theoretically, a team could give Buffalo what they are asking for and include zero draft picks. But, the point of my post is that Jack is not worth 4 PIECES that include the equivalent of four 1st round picks. He wasn't worth that when he was healthy and he certainly isn't worth that with a busted neck.
Aug. 24, 2021 at 1:56 p.m.
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Quoting: delneggs
Buffalo isn't asking for just draft picks. They want at least 4 pieces in the trade that equate to an equivalent of four 1st round picks, which is a lot different. Draft picks don't always pan out (a.k.a Lias Andersson), so theoretically, a team could give Buffalo what they are asking for and include zero draft picks. But, the point of my post is that Jack is not worth 4 PIECES that include the equivalent of four 1st round picks. He wasn't worth that when he was healthy and he certainly isn't worth that with a busted neck.
Is that not what I said?
I did not say Buffalo was asking for four picks, I was pointing out the obvious that not all first round picks are created equal.
Where do you see four draft picks in the trade that I think will happen? How many actual first round picks are in that trade?
If you do not see mostly concurrence with my comment, we must be speaking two different languages.
No one thinks Strome nor Georgiev will return a first if traded, Chytil or Kravtsov may but they are only prospects so it is difficult to determine their value even now.
So the trade that I think will take place is marginally four first round picks.
Aug. 24, 2021 at 2:43 p.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Is that not what I said?
I did not say Buffalo was asking for four picks, I was pointing out the obvious that not all first round picks are created equal.
Where do you see four draft picks in the trade that I think will happen? How many actual first round picks are in that trade?
If you do not see mostly concurrence with my comment, we must be speaking two different languages.
No one thinks Strome nor Georgiev will return a first if traded, Chytil or Kravtsov may but they are only prospects so it is difficult to determine their value even now.
So the trade that I think will take place is marginally four first round picks.


I'm not disagreeing with what you said...perhaps saying same thing a different way. But, I don't see Chtyil as a prospect, he has played 186 games now and his skill is obvious, it's just a matter of time for him. Plus, Strome was a 1st round pick and his production as a Ranger has been good (60 points/82 games played), so he is most definitely worth a 1st round pick if traded. To get less for him that that would be a steal for the other team.
 
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