i don't think the Hawks do either of these, especially the Oilers one. Strome IMO is more valuable then Yamamoto at this point, at least has shown more NHL ability and plays a more important role at center. I like Kailer and see the potential in him, but hawks are better off to keep Strome until they know what is happening with Toews, Johnson, Gaudette, Borgstrom and even Dach.

Soucy I'm not as familiar with as a player.

I like Yamamoto and his motor is like Hagel's. I'd do that trade. The only concern about the Soucy trade is that Kalynuk chose to be a Hawk. He's actually doing pretty good IMO. So to trade him away would be a tough pill to take and a warning sign for future college kids.

Oilers have been in desperate need of wingers for ages. Why would they move one for a centre that they definitely don't need? Makes no sense at all.

I don't dislike Yamamoto but he hasn't shown as much as Strome has yet not to mention centers is a more valuable position. On that note, the Hawks can not rely on Dach and Toews as top 6 and Johnson, Gaudette and Borgstrom until more is known about all of them getting into the actual season. Lastly, we are selling low on Strome right now so why?

I hear you on selling low. I don't want to trade Strome at all to be honest. I'd put Dach on wing next to Toews, but that's me. We don't even know if Toews is 100% for sure back. So trading Strome away is a big risk. With that said, I do think Yamamoto has what Bowman/JC are looking for. relentless 2-way hustle.

I think the Hawks need to see what they have in Toews, Johnson, Borgstrom, Guadette and Strome to start the season. There is simply too much risk for selling low on Strome right now and IMO Yamamoto doesn't offset the risk enough.

pretty sure Strome can and has played wing and give the oilers more center depth. He is overall a better player. I think the trade off is a player now vs a player that could be as good if not better in 2 years.

Edmonton cant afford Strome's contract. Yamamoto could easily score 25 goals and 50 Points if he worked on his shooting this summer. He missed a wide open feed from Draisaitl every second game. Edmonton doesnt have much cap right now and Yamamoto doesn't have arbitration rights so they just need to make a 2 year 1.5 Million dollar contract and move on. The player would be stupid to give up his shot to boost his totals and set the tone of his career and edmonton would be stupid to trade him.

Strome is not the better player and just because he can play wing doesn't mean he should. Yamamoto is the better player, Strome has just played with better players so his production numbers are higher - doesn't mean he's the better player (which funny enough Yamamoto still out scored Strome last season). Yamamoto is the far better skater, and forechecker.

This isn't interesting to Edmonton at all.

Yamamoto is by far the better player. When they brought him up after Christmas 2 years ago it single-handedly catapulted Edmonton into being a playoff team and he produced a point per game for 27 games. He didnt produce last year but he was also the only decent winger on his line because nugent hopkins was with mcdavid, he also missed lots of gimme goals. Nuge will be slotted back with draisaitl and yamamoto.

idk an oilers fan first proposed this deal

Yams is first of all the better player and also I like this move for the hawks because of the cap flexibility it gives us. Yams can be locked down to a reasoble 3 year bridge at around 3 mil per which would be great, where as strome eighter plays well this year and gets a raise or he sucks and we trade his rfa rights for next to nothing like zadorov.

Soucy is a big bodied tough to play against defender. Good partner for Jones imo. He's good in his own end with some offence but not a ton. That would be fine on a pair with Jones because he can produce the offence. Soucy is also pretty young and locked in cheap for 2 years. Gets us a good value contract on defence to get us through to the Kane and Toews (likley) pay cuts.

Both moves support the win now movement but also give us mid term (1-3 year) cap flexibility which is desperatly needed

Would you pair Soucy with Jones though? IDK, I guess I like the puck mover with Jones. I think it gives a greater dimension to the pairing if you put Beaudin (Kaly if he stays a Hawk). It's not that I don't like Soucy at all. I'd just pair him with Mitchell.

Oh cool! Now let's trust fans and think that 1 fan thinks the absolute best for an entire organization!

chill lol it's a fantasy site

I like:

Soucy-Jones
Mccabe-Murphy
Dehaan-Mitchell
Jones
Stillman
Beaudan

Jones is the puck mover on his pair and mitchell is on his pair. Middle pair is the shutdown pair and #1 PK pair. Jones on PP #1 and mitchell on pp #2

Past 2 years:

Strome (24 years old): 98, 21-34-55 [0.56 P/GP] -15
Yamamoto (22 years): 79, 19-28-47 [0.59 P/GP] +26

Yamamoto is by far the better 2-way player and scores just as well. He's likely going to come in around $2M for the next 2 years, making his contract more valuable too.

This is an interesting comp: https://naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php

I don't think the Oilers should consider this for long.

So, while i agree with everything you wrote and I do like Yamamoto, truly I do. He spent approx. 80% of his time with Drai/McDavid. Don't you think the better comp would be a projection of what Strome would be capable of with Drai/McDavid?

https://naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20202021&thruseason=20202021&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=EDM&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2021-01-13&td=2021-05-19&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8479977&p2=8478402&p3=8477934&p4=0&p5=0

I'll add that while yam's contract is more valuable (we assume, but can't say for sure till he atcually signs), Strome has more positional value playing center

He spent less than 17% on his TOI with McDavid, and Draisaitl sucks without McDavid, remember? At least, 99% of non-Oilers fans on this site think so, so it must be true.

Also, Strome's most common linemates were Kane and DeBrincat, its not like he was dragging around a couple of chumps.

Considering age difference I'm happy with my conclusion that they're going to post similar offensive stats on the Oilers roster. But the clear advantage Yamamoto has on the defensive side, plus his (probable) better contract, means he's got more value than Dylan Strome IMO.

The criticism Drai gets on here is borderline criminal. He's an amazing player. Those two are the Crosby/Malkin combo of today. The difference is Malkin is still somehow considered to be god like and Draisaitl gets ripped on. Malkin was good (great even!)...I'm not trying to suggest he wasn't. Just that it's amazing how perception differs between the two.

Strome's big success did indeed came when he was with Debrincat/Kane, but those were not his most common line mates this past year. I'm not trying to FORCE you into taking him, just wanted to point out that his most common line mates were actually Kubalik #1 and Janmark #2. Debrincat #3, Kane #4 and Kurashev #5. Which to me means that I would still say the best comp is either Strome's production WITH Kane/Debrincat...51 points in 58 games. Or try to project what he'd do with Draisaitl.

That's a HUGE stretch for you to say he's a far better player...take a look at their stat sheets so far in both of their young careers in the NHL and considering Strome was battling injury for a stretch in both of the last two seasons.

Strome was injured both years so production wasn't great for him. Also, center is more valuable role then winger and harder to find. I don't think Yamamoto is a better player by any stretch. I like both, they are different players to call one hands down a better player is foolish.

I don't agree that Yamamoto is the better player, they are different players and Yamamoto is more flashy and plays a bigger sheet, but idk about better so to speak.

Also don't think Saucy is a top line guy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a bottom 3 D man in his career?

He's not a top pair D, but neighter are Kalynuk, Beaudan, Stillman, or Caleb Jones. Soucy is better than those 4 at this point in all their careers. He could be a decent partner for Jones this year and slot better into the dehaan role a year from now when dehaan walks