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Carolina Hurricanes signed Jesperi Kotkaniemi (1 Year / $6,100,035 AAV)

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Aug. 28, 2021 at 9:26 p.m.
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The QO only matters if he doesn't sign an extension during the season. Habs could match the 6.1m and resign him during the season for less on an extension.


I mean they could, but I have no idea why Jesperi would do that.
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Aug. 28, 2021 at 9:28 p.m.
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The QO only matters if he doesn't sign an extension during the season. Habs could match the 6.1m and resign him during the season for less on an extension.


Yeah but the player has all the leverage now, he can wait if he wants to
Aug. 28, 2021 at 9:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
I mean they could, but I have no idea why Jesperi would do that.


Well I guess they could point out the massive overpayment for this season and try to negotiate a fair deal for more term.
Aug. 28, 2021 at 9:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Joe_La_Garnotte
Yeah but the player has all the leverage now, he can wait if he wants to


Oh ya 100%. But I don't think anyone is going to QO him at 6.1 or more after this season.
Aug. 28, 2021 at 9:36 p.m.
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Carolina deserves a "yes" just because of the trolling here. Now Montreal is in a pretty bad situation and they need to overpay Kotkaniemi to avoid lose him. Good luck with that. Lol
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Aug. 28, 2021 at 9:38 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2735746

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2749163



There's no way the Carolina Hurricanes didn't read my post from August 20th smile



U basically got the aav on the nail
Aug. 28, 2021 at 9:45 p.m.
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Great to kk, hes gonna play 1 season and either carolina qualifies him and he gets another 6 millio or they dont and hes a ufa at what 22.
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Aug. 28, 2021 at 9:47 p.m.
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U basically got the aav on the nail


The idea behind the aav in my post is to suck up as much cap space from Montreal as possible without risking more than a 1st and a 3rd as draft pick compensation.

I was only like $60 off.

The Carolina Hurricanes would have had to get the idea from somewhere, knowing that Montreal offer-sheeted Aho.



What I'd like to know is this.

Was somebody from Carolina's front office on Capfriendly looking for ideas between the time I made my post on August 20th and the time when Kotkaniemi got offer-sheeted today?

One can only wonder smile
Aug. 28, 2021 at 9:47 p.m.
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Let him walk. I don't think the Canes are going to be good this year, so this could be a great first round pick.
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Aug. 28, 2021 at 9:48 p.m.
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I really hope Bergevin will not match that, KK really worth that. Better let the Canes being ruined with this stupid contract and take the 1 and 3 rnd pick compensation. Anyways, Habs will not go anywhere this season, without Danault and Weber and the fact that the 21-22 season will be played with the usual divisions, there is not chance for them to go into the playoffs. They can't beat: TB, Bruins, Isles, Rangers, Caps, Canes, Florida and Leafs.
Aug. 28, 2021 at 9:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
I mean they could, but I have no idea why Jesperi would do that.


Easy answer.
What if KK does not get qualified next year?

That's why he should get extension done
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Aug. 28, 2021 at 9:55 p.m.
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Good contract. Bad contract. doesn’t matter. This is a **** you to MTL. A one year “**** you, match it” offer.

I love it. I love the pettiness.
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Aug. 28, 2021 at 10:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
More so naïve thinking that they had a chance at getting Aho. The decision to offer sheet Aho if you think you can get him isn’t stupid. The stupid part was thinking you can get him.

Obviously Marc Bergevin isn’t petty, and didn’t sign Aho just to screw over the Canes.


But he walks Aho straight to the UFA. Smört
Aug. 28, 2021 at 10:06 p.m.
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Minnesota is generous and will send Victor Rask to MTL as KKs replacement for just as little as a 1st round pick.
Aug. 28, 2021 at 10:06 p.m.
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comedy signing
Aug. 28, 2021 at 10:20 p.m.
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But he walks Aho straight to the UFA. Smört


Yeah. Which unfortunately does nothing for Montréal. Just like this offer sheet does nothing for Carolina.
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Aug. 28, 2021 at 10:20 p.m.
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comedy signing


Chaos. Reigns.
Aug. 28, 2021 at 10:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Yeah. Which unfortunately does nothing for Montréal. Just like this offer sheet does nothing for Carolina.



You really don’t wanna a 1st and a 3rd for KK. Just curious. I would take that and purchase
Dvorak somehow. I think that Dvorak is KKs ceiling. And he only makes four and a half. Carolina s gonna have a hard time with NYI and PIT and maybe this pick ends up being a middle 1st.
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Aug. 28, 2021 at 10:35 p.m.
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2 Questions to anyone who knows about RFAs and OS and QO.

1st. If canes tries to extend KK during season do they have to follow the QO at 6m or can it be lower than 6m (let's say the contract be accepted no matter what if they can hypothetically)

2nd. If they can't, can't they just wait and no give him a QO and try to sign him after that for a lower cap hit. Assuming he likes it in Carolina.
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Aug. 28, 2021 at 10:49 p.m.
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Quoting: SomethingLeafs
2 Questions to anyone who knows about RFAs and OS and QO.

1st. If canes tries to extend KK during season do they have to follow the QO at 6m or can it be lower than 6m (let's say the contract be accepted no matter what if they can hypothetically)

2nd. If they can't, can't they just wait and no give him a QO and try to sign him after that for a lower cap hit. Assuming he likes it in Carolina.


They might negotiate a lower AAV, but that depends on his will. If he is not prone to that, then 6 mil of no qo.
Aug. 28, 2021 at 11:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
They might negotiate a lower AAV, but that depends on his will. If he is not prone to that, then 6 mil of no qo.


They have a year to convince him and I think they can do it. He knows he won't get 6m elsewhere unless he breaks out. I can guarantee that.
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Aug. 28, 2021 at 11:08 p.m.
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I got a question.

I know that if Carolina wait at the end of the season to sign him again at a qualifying offer. I know that the contract can't be less that 6.1m.

But if he sign during the season, can the salary be less that 6.1m per year?

In my mind, I don't thing so. I dougt KK will accept a less contract that now.
Aug. 28, 2021 at 11:12 p.m.
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You really don’t wanna a 1st and a 3rd for KK. Just curious. I would take that and purchase
Dvorak somehow. I think that Dvorak is KKs ceiling. And he only makes four and a half. Carolina s gonna have a hard time with NYI and PIT and maybe this pick ends up being a middle 1st.


1. Dvorak is going to cost more than a first and a 3rd.
2. You and I see KK’s potential very, very differently.
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Aug. 28, 2021 at 11:13 p.m.
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I got a question.

I know that if Carolina wait at the end of the season to sign him again at a qualifying offer. I know that the contract can't be less that 6.1m.

But if he sign during the season, can the salary be less that 6.1m per year?

In my mind, I don't thing so. I dougt KK will accept a less contract that now.


Technically Kotkaniemi could sign for any number in between league minimum and maximum next year. However if he accepts his offer he has $6.1 million guaranteed, so it makes no sense for him to sign for any less than that.
Aug. 28, 2021 at 11:19 p.m.
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I wonder what he'll do with the 35 dollars.
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