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If everything goes crazy

Created by: nepTrystan
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 29, 2021
Published: Aug. 29, 2021
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This is just everything going crazy, don't see it happening but imagine xDDD

Petersson likely to be offersheeted due to the horrible van cap hell situation, like 10m for both Petersson and Hugues, yikes

And just imagine if Carolina collapse next season, that would be hilarious

(*and oh btw at the same time the habs will sign an extension for nick suzuki on a 6.5 by 6)
Free Agent Signings
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5$10,275,829
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1$1,200,000
1$1,200,000
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Pettersson, Elias$10,275,829
2022 1st round pick
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MTL
  1. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
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Imagine carolina flops and the 1rst became Wright XD
CAR
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MTL
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (BUF)
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Helps the sabres get close to the floor and gets a good young player in Drouin
BUF
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Poehling, Ryan
  3. 2022 4th round pick (TBL)
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The habs free cap space so they can look around and search forsome little pieces they need
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MTL
  1. 2022 4th round pick (NYI)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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22$81,500,000$66,288,806$597,561$1,475,000$15,211,194
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
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$10,275,829$10,275,829
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
C
UFA - 1
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 6
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$950,000$950,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
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RD
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
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NMC
UFA - 5
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
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C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 5
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$750,000$750,000
RD
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2

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Aug. 29, 2021 at 1:13 a.m.
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van matches
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Aug. 29, 2021 at 1:14 a.m.
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Quoting: McSchleep
van matches


Honestly it depends on how they see which one to pay. Hugeus is going to ask for minimum 8 m, so if petersson gets 10m they're 8 m over the cap

and that's if hugues just asked for 8 (don't deserved it, but the d market is ridiculous rn)
Aug. 29, 2021 at 1:19 a.m.
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Honestly it depends on how they see which one to pay. Hugeus is going to ask for minimum 8 m, so if petersson gets 10m they're 8 m over the cap

and that's if hugues just asked for 8 (don't deserved it, but the d market is ridiculous rn)


They are represented by the same agency. Peteys agent isn’t gonna compromise a deal with Hughes by signing a monster offer sheet. Hughes also gets a low AAV for a bridge deal as does Pettersson. Given that we have 17 mil in cap space, matching an offer sheet is very doable
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Aug. 29, 2021 at 1:27 a.m.
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You didn’t consider that capfriendly roster has more than a 23 man roster for VAN and that Ferland will be LTIR if needed. VAN doesn’t have any cap problem (for this season wink )!
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Aug. 29, 2021 at 1:31 a.m.
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You didn’t consider that capfriendly roster has more than a 23 man roster for VAN and that Ferland will be LTIR if needed. VAN doesn’t have any cap problem (for this season wink )!


He's already on LTIR in capfriendly (where i picked my number).

And yes i know but it screwed all of vancouver money and they will need to hit hard their depth to can match and signs Huges, it still 1m to free and because of the awfull arizona deals it's going to be harder
Aug. 29, 2021 at 1:48 a.m.
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He's already on LTIR in capfriendly (where i picked my number).

And yes i know but it screwed all of vancouver money and they will need to hit hard their depth to can match and signs Huges, it still 1m to free and because of the awfull arizona deals it's going to be harder


Nope it’s not calculated because LTIR isn’t in effect until the regular season starts. Might wanna fact check. They can also send up to 4 players to the minors saving up around 3 more million dollars. As I said, Pettersson isn’t signing an offer sheet cause his agent isn’t gonna make that happen… an offer sheet now is also gonna be less likely as teams now see the consequences of offer sheeting another team. (Canes revenge on the Habs by OS KK.)
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Aug. 29, 2021 at 2:19 a.m.
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So Suzuki will be a Canuck next year
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Aug. 29, 2021 at 10:01 a.m.
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Nope it’s not calculated because LTIR isn’t in effect until the regular season starts. Might wanna fact check. They can also send up to 4 players to the minors saving up around 3 more million dollars. As I said, Pettersson isn’t signing an offer sheet cause his agent isn’t gonna make that happen… an offer sheet now is also gonna be less likely as teams now see the consequences of offer sheeting another team. (Canes revenge on the Habs by OS KK.)


By the reaction of Petterson a couple of weeks ago he wants to win, so the Habs is a good opportunity for him. And btw no agent will refuses an offer sheet if its what they wants. Also Bergevin is also soo ballsy so he could do that too.
Aug. 29, 2021 at 10:02 a.m.
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So Suzuki will be a Canuck next year


Did you just read the description?
I said that the Habs will extend Suzuki before the start of the season so he cant be offer sheeted wink
Aug. 29, 2021 at 10:08 a.m.
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Did you just read the description?
I said that the Habs will extend Suzuki before the start of the season so he cant be offer sheeted wink


Should of did it to KK so
Aug. 29, 2021 at 10:50 a.m.
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Should of did it to KK so


I know the fact that in the start of the summer KK has having problems in his hometown with his family, so we understood that it's normal if he didn't signs. I belived the reason why he wasn't signed after that is the fact he was probably in a discussion to trade him to upgrtade (Eichel?) and waited too see what's happenening before signing him )
Aug. 29, 2021 at 11:40 a.m.
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By the reaction of Petterson a couple of weeks ago he wants to win, so the Habs is a good opportunity for him. And btw no agent will refuses an offer sheet if its what they wants. Also Bergevin is also soo ballsy so he could do that too.


Clearly you really need to fact check. If your gonna use the quote you might as well actually know the whole back story. He said he wants to win. Doesn’t everyone? Also the Canucks have a higher chance of winning this year than the Canadiens cause the pacific is weak. He literally said he wants to stay in Vancouver because he believes the group we have is able to win. I suggest you delete your comments and stop making a fool of yourself because you haven’t made a single solid argument yet…
Aug. 29, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.
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Clearly you really need to fact check. If your gonna use the quote you might as well actually know the whole back story. He said he wants to win. Doesn’t everyone? Also the Canucks have a higher chance of winning this year than the Canadiens cause the pacific is weak. He literally said he wants to stay in Vancouver because he believes the group we have is able to win. I suggest you delete your comments and stop making a fool of yourself because you haven’t made a single solid argument yet…


Recived an 10m offer instead of a 6m offer is most interesting. Also i doubt the nucks will br good this seasons, too many questions. The hardest part of the habs is to make it, because in the playoffs they're a threat, they can go on a run, they just did it. Love how many people stills sleeps on the habs (however if they didnt find a #2 center its a whole other thing)
Aug. 29, 2021 at 1:19 p.m.
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Recived an 10m offer instead of a 6m offer is most interesting. Also i doubt the nucks will br good this seasons, too many questions. The hardest part of the habs is to make it, because in the playoffs they're a threat, they can go on a run, they just did it. Love how many people stills sleeps on the habs (however if they didnt find a #2 center its a whole other thing)


You guys just lost your 2C who happens to only be a third line caliber player. I’d say the canucks are better off than the Canadiens. The chance you go on another Cinderella run is low. You have Boston, Tampa, Florida, and Toronto in your division and all 4 happen to be a lot better than you considering you have no center depth. Canucks have more than 17 mil in cap space meaning they have plenty of room to give Petey and Quinn up to 8.5 million each.
Aug. 29, 2021 at 3:35 p.m.
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You guys just lost your 2C who happens to only be a third line caliber player. I’d say the canucks are better off than the Canadiens. The chance you go on another Cinderella run is low. You have Boston, Tampa, Florida, and Toronto in your division and all 4 happen to be a lot better than you considering you have no center depth. Canucks have more than 17 mil in cap space meaning they have plenty of room to give Petey and Quinn up to 8.5 million each.


Okay, your defense is god awfull with only offensive dmans and you rely on Demko. One team just make the finals and the other was a total collapse last season.

But that's not my main argument

Petterson curently worth like 6 m right now maybe 7. If the habs are willing to spend 10 M , do you really think he will says no? He will accept and gl to vancouver to make cap space.

Can they : yes

But if wouls cost a lot of players/prospects/picks

It is really worth it is the question if it happens, like the habs rn with kk
Aug. 29, 2021 at 4:13 p.m.
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Okay, your defense is god awfull with only offensive dmans and you rely on Demko. One team just make the finals and the other was a total collapse last season.

But that's not my main argument

Petterson curently worth like 6 m right now maybe 7. If the habs are willing to spend 10 M , do you really think he will says no? He will accept and gl to vancouver to make cap space.

Can they : yes

But if wouls cost a lot of players/prospects/picks

It is really worth it is the question if it happens, like the habs rn with kk


Your ability to actually learn facts is embarrassingly low. Pettersson worry 6 million? He’s worth a minimum of 7 million dollars on a short term deal. On a long term deal like 8 years, he could easily be offered 10 mil by Vancouver but a bridge deal is likely what’s going to happen. Also Petterssons agency represents Quinn Hughes. I also don’t think the Habs are in any position to win. You have wingers but your center depth is awful and Pwttersson isn’t gonna go to Montreal so you’re stuck with no center depth. J Benning has already vowed that he would match any offer sheet given to Pettersson. We have the cap space to match so why wouldn’t we?
Aug. 29, 2021 at 5:04 p.m.
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Your ability to actually learn facts is embarrassingly low. Pettersson worry 6 million? He’s worth a minimum of 7 million dollars on a short term deal. On a long term deal like 8 years, he could easily be offered 10 mil by Vancouver but a bridge deal is likely what’s going to happen. Also Petterssons agency represents Quinn Hughes. I also don’t think the Habs are in any position to win. You have wingers but your center depth is awful and Pwttersson isn’t gonna go to Montreal so you’re stuck with no center depth. J Benning has already vowed that he would match any offer sheet given to Pettersson. We have the cap space to match so why wouldn’t we?


You don't have cap space bruh, dont tell me 10 m is enough for Pettersson and Hugues

I dont see it happening but it would make sens an offer sheet

I'm not going to argue more because i have other things to do in life but we know our center issue and we have options to replace it (Dvorak, an OfferSheet, Eichel, etc.) . The habs at that point will do everything in their power to have that center which they needes. Btw Hugues is going to get at least 9 m and if Pettersson gets 10m , where tf the nucks are going to get the money.

They have 10m rn on capfriendly

Probably bye bye J.T Miller, your 1rst and some depth guys/prospects/picks for having both of them
Aug. 29, 2021 at 6:20 p.m.
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You don't have cap space bruh, dont tell me 10 m is enough for Pettersson and Hugues

I dont see it happening but it would make sens an offer sheet

I'm not going to argue more because i have other things to do in life but we know our center issue and we have options to replace it (Dvorak, an OfferSheet, Eichel, etc.) . The habs at that point will do everything in their power to have that center which they needes. Btw Hugues is going to get at least 9 m and if Pettersson gets 10m , where tf the nucks are going to get the money.

They have 10m rn on capfriendly

Probably bye bye J.T Miller, your 1rst and some depth guys/prospects/picks for having both of them

FACT CHECK FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE. You can’t just click on capfrisbdly look at one number and base your entire argument on that. Ferland goes onto ltir which frees up 3.5 mil. 3-4 players can be sent to the minors freeing up another 3 million. Fact check please.

We can also afford Jt Miller. He only needs like a 1 million dollar raise. Why would we lose a first round pick? Your logic baffles me

You should stop arguing because you clearly don’t k ow anything about he Vancouver Canucjs
Aug. 29, 2021 at 7:21 p.m.
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FACT CHECK FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE. You can’t just click on capfrisbdly look at one number and base your entire argument on that. Ferland goes onto ltir which frees up 3.5 mil. 3-4 players can be sent to the minors freeing up another 3 million. Fact check please.

We can also afford Jt Miller. He only needs like a 1 million dollar raise. Why would we lose a first round pick? Your logic baffles me

You should stop arguing because you clearly don’t k ow anything about he Vancouver Canucjs


Yeah ferland on the ltir, so it's not 14m , but for 19 for both Petersson and Hugues

what do you do to get 5 m in 7 days : trading J.T Miller (or somehow dump that Myers contract, but still complicated because no one will take that contract if no picks or prospects are involved)

You only follow the Canucks, I follow the NHL in general, not only my team and I know my things wink
Aug. 29, 2021 at 7:27 p.m.
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Yeah ferland on the ltir, so it's not 14m , but for 19 for both Petersson and Hugues

what do you do to get 5 m in 7 days : trading J.T Miller (or somehow dump that Myers contract, but still complicated because no one will take that contract if no picks or prospects are involved)

You only follow the Canucks, I follow the NHL in general, not only my team and I know my things wink


You clearly know nothing if you think the Canucks have to lose Miller. I made an ACGM you should check out. It shows the Canucks matching a 10 million dollar Offersheet. I also follow the whole NHL and clearly know a lot more than you do. You also sound like you’re 12 years old with your intelligence. Must I repeat everything I’ve said 3 times already? Ferland plus players send down to the minors frees up 7 million in cap space. Why would we need to get another 5 million? Learn your facts troll before I report you
Aug. 29, 2021 at 7:56 p.m.
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You clearly know nothing if you think the Canucks have to lose Miller. I made an ACGM you should check out. It shows the Canucks matching a 10 million dollar Offersheet. I also follow the whole NHL and clearly know a lot more than you do. You also sound like you’re 12 years old with your intelligence. Must I repeat everything I’ve said 3 times already? Ferland plus players send down to the minors frees up 7 million in cap space. Why would we need to get another 5 million? Learn your facts troll before I report you


go report you lmao you acted like a pissed kid and it makes me laugh

I have my point you have yours it's fine, dont talk **** because we have differents opinion lmao

Having Petersson offersheeted makese a lot of problems for the canucks and saying the opposite is beliving in unicorns

Can they matched it: sure, but it would be hard and no team will help them, that's what happened when your gm thrown away big contracts and random trades for expensive guys
Aug. 29, 2021 at 7:58 p.m.
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go report you lmao you acted like a pissed kid and it makes me laugh

I have my point you have yours it's fine, dont talk **** because we have differents opinion lmao

Having Petersson offersheeted makese a lot of problems for the canucks and saying the opposite is beliving in unicorns

Can they matched it: sure, but it would be hard and no team will help them, that's what happened when your gm thrown away big contracts and random trades for expensive guys


Did I say it wouldn’t cause problems? No, I said that those problems could be avoided. Remember that it only takes a trade or two to get everything pack on track. If we need to, Pearson, Poolman are all candidates to go. You’re the only child here either that or you can’t find a good argument against me. Go back and read your post, you literally haven’t made any arguments worth while
Aug. 29, 2021 at 8:30 p.m.
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Did I say it wouldn’t cause problems? No, I said that those problems could be avoided. Remember that it only takes a trade or two to get everything pack on track. If we need to, Pearson, Poolman are all candidates to go. You’re the only child here either that or you can’t find a good argument against me. Go back and read your post, you literally haven’t made any arguments worth while


You're going to trade a guy you've just sign? That makes no sense at all

Pearson sure, but it keep some money left to remoove and even if youre able, how you're going to do other trades if you have no cap space at all.

Alright because you think your the best i'm going to stop wasting my time, other thing to do that arguing with a kid. No arguments? read what i wrote and they're full of arguments. Not my problem if you only wants to see what you want. I don't especially think the habs will offer sheet him, but it can be some teams could do the offer sheet. So stop crying you're just looking like a kid who wants attention and i'm sure you're not like that, so please xD
Aug. 29, 2021 at 8:45 p.m.
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You're going to trade a guy you've just sign? That makes no sense at all

Pearson sure, but it keep some money left to remoove and even if youre able, how you're going to do other trades if you have no cap space at all.

Alright because you think your the best i'm going to stop wasting my time, other thing to do that arguing with a kid. No arguments? read what i wrote and they're full of arguments. Not my problem if you only wants to see what you want. I don't especially think the habs will offer sheet him, but it can be some teams could do the offer sheet. So stop crying you're just looking like a kid who wants attention and i'm sure you're not like that, so please xD


You really think if we are in a big pickle and the only way to get out of it is to trade a player we just signed, don’t you think they’d do it? It’s not a rule that you can’t trade a recently signed player. I’ve read all your arguments and they are the same thing “oh you have no cap space and I don’t know how you can get some more but since I don’t know how to get some more, I guess you can’t either”
Aug. 29, 2021 at 10:07 p.m.
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You really think if we are in a big pickle and the only way to get out of it is to trade a player we just signed, don’t you think they’d do it? It’s not a rule that you can’t trade a recently signed player. I’ve read all your arguments and they are the same thing “oh you have no cap space and I don’t know how you can get some more but since I don’t know how to get some more, I guess you can’t either”


And it's how you ended up being hated as a gm (for the pov of other players and future ufa's)

You really have no cap space not my fault if you're not accepting it. 10M (plus 4.5 for Ferland) is nothing in cap when you need to signs both Hugues and Petersson (still don't get the Ekman Larsson trade, it make things even worse for them in cap situation). Miller is likely to get traded because he's going to interest a lot of teams and the returns might get interesting for the Canucks (also they can afford to loose him due to the rising of Hoglander). The other solution is to find a way to dumb the Myers contract, but you'll need to pay to get rid of due to that 6m cap.

and oh i know they can match it, but at what cost and should they? A other valable opinion is to let him go , take the pics, and target an Eichel/Zibanejad to replace him. (by trade you can let some cap in return so it's less impactfull on your team even if it's at first almost the same cap hit)

Never said impossible, just hard and it will cost and I just think it's not worth the risk of cap hell thjis year. Watch out too next year with Boeser and in two years for Horvat and Hoglander
 
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