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Team: 2021-22 Colorado Avalanche
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Published: Aug. 30, 2021
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25$81,500,000$82,994,797$1,741,463$2,582,500-$1,494,797
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
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C
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RW, LW
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
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UFA - 1
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C, LW
RFA - 1
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C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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LW
UFA - 1
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RW, C
UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 3
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 6
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 6
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G
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LD
UFA - 3
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RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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RFA - 2
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UFA - 1

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Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:24 a.m.
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no thanks. we like toffoli.
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:24 a.m.
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I actually don't hate the return, but I hate what we're giving. Toffoli was on a 44 goal pace this season and 70 something points.
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:25 a.m.
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I dont really follow the logic behind this move list.

WHy are the avs trading Kadri to make a hole in their roster then looking for sub level replacement Centers instead? If the goal is to get a middle 6 winger....just go get a middle 6 winger, you dont need to move Kadri for one
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:26 a.m.
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Quoting: Hockey247
no thanks. we like toffoli.


fair but you also need centers just sayin
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:28 a.m.
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Quoting: Zuki9797
I actually don't hate the return, but I hate what we're giving. Toffoli was on a 44 goal pace this season and 70 something points.


very true but kadri being your number one you have picks and stuff price is only good for a couple more years same with a couple other playing you need centers yes toffoli was amazing but with danult gone your kinda lacking on centers
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:29 a.m.
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Quoting: coga16
I dont really follow the logic behind this move list.

WHy are the avs trading Kadri to make a hole in their roster then looking for sub level replacement Centers instead? If the goal is to get a middle 6 winger....just go get a middle 6 winger, you dont need to move Kadri for one


mixing it up i was dissapointed in kadri's proformence last year toffoli is a top goal scorer and would be deadly with bruky plus if he has another repeat of what did last year we wont want to resign
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:31 a.m.
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Kadri is a 1 UFA, Toffoli has one of the best contracts in the league. Habs say no
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.
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Kadri is a 1 UFA, Toffoli has one of the best contracts in the league. Habs say no


habs need a center at this point with people getting older this is the best chance you have a risk reward type with picks you can get another winger
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:33 a.m.
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mixing it up i was dissapointed in kadri's proformence last year toffoli is a top goal scorer and would be deadly with bruky plus if he has another repeat of what did last year we wont want to resign


kadri was on a 52 point pace as a 2c, I dont see really the disappointment in his performance last year. Lots of Avs fans say that and its feeling like an unwarranted talking point when in reality his numbers were his career averages.

Avs need Kadri more than Tofolli. Jost at 2C did not work in the playoffs, Newhook isnt ready for a fulltime 2C role, and none of those C targets are 2C level. You make the avs much weaker moving out their best faceoff guy now after Bellemare has left.

This feels like you are making a hole in the roster that you cant fill.
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Ilya_Bryzgarlov_for_Vezina
very true but kadri being your number one you have picks and stuff price is only good for a couple more years same with a couple other playing you need centers yes toffoli was amazing but with danult gone your kinda lacking on centers


- Kadri will be the 2C, Suzuki is the 1C
- We can probably get a centre for cheaper than Toffoli, if any winger's getting traded its going to be either Drouin or Byron
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Ilya_Bryzgarlov_for_Vezina
fair but you also need centers just sayin


yeah we do. but not at the cost of toffoli
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:35 a.m.
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Quoting: Zuki9797
- Kadri will be the 2C, Suzuki is the 1C
- We can probably get a centre for cheaper than Toffoli, if any winger's getting traded its going to be either Drouin or Byron


fair
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:37 a.m.
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I really love the return in the Strome deal
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:38 a.m.
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Quoting: Ilya_Bryzgarlov_for_Vezina
habs need a center at this point with people getting older this is the best chance you have a risk reward type with picks you can get another winger


They would rather try Poeheling than trade Toffoli. I think they would look at someone cheap to acquire like Girgensons
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:38 a.m.
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I really love the return in the Strome deal


lmao just ideas of future centers
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:39 a.m.
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- Kadri will be the 2C, Suzuki is the 1C
- We can probably get a centre for cheaper than Toffoli, if any winger's getting traded its going to be either Drouin or Byron


Im curious if a Compher for Lehkonen type trade is plausible.
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:53 a.m.
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Im curious if a Compher for Lehkonen type trade is plausible.


honestly depends... i dont know too much about compher; does he play PK? since lehkonen's our #1 winger on the PK
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:58 a.m.
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honestly depends... i dont know too much about compher; does he play PK? since lehkonen's our #1 winger on the PK


compher is decent in pk he has a good amount of expeirence
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:58 a.m.
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honestly depends... i dont know too much about compher; does he play PK? since lehkonen's our #1 winger on the PK


Compher does PK. They really are similar players in what roles they play. Compher is best on the Wing IMO but hes he plays C as well. Other people see him as a Centre more, but Avs fans like him best on the wing.
Aug. 30, 2021 at 12:00 p.m.
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Compher does PK. They really are similar players in what roles they play. Compher is best on the Wing IMO but hes he plays C as well. Other people see him as a Centre more, but Avs fans like him best on the wing.


plus with jost and newhook he wont have time on c
Aug. 30, 2021 at 12:00 p.m.
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Compher does PK. They really are similar players in what roles they play. Compher is best on the Wing IMO but hes he plays C as well. Other people see him as a Centre more, but Avs fans like him best on the wing.


honestly then I don't think so. Lehkonen fills a PK and 4LW need. Compher is a PKer and i think a 3rd liner? but we have way too many wingers and trading Lehkonen likely won't help us
Aug. 30, 2021 at 12:02 p.m.
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honestly then I don't think so. Lehkonen fills a PK and 4LW need. Compher is a PKer and i think a 3rd liner? but we have way too many wingers and trading Lehkonen likely won't help us


I assumed montreal would play him at C which would be the draw for Bergevin. I would like the Avs to add a LWer for the middle 6 in Lehkonen.
But I totally get why you would turn it down. Its a min maxing move and might as well as keep the guy you already know and are comfortable with
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 12:03 p.m.
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plus with jost and newhook he wont have time on c


Yup, hes a Winger on the Avs next year. Maltsev will be 4C as well. I really want to add a LW instead of Compher at RW. That is the type of compher trade im interested in....can they move him for a Lehkonen type in a pure hockey trade
Aug. 30, 2021 at 12:04 p.m.
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Yup, hes a Winger on the Avs next year. Maltsev will be 4C as well. I really want to add a LW instead of Compher at RW. That is the type of compher trade im interested in....can they move him for a Lehkonen type in a pure hockey trade


compher takes a decent chunk of cap with are coing rookies i wouldnt mind a 3rd and put kaut there in his place
Aug. 30, 2021 at 12:09 p.m.
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compher takes a decent chunk of cap with are coing rookies i wouldnt mind a 3rd and put kaut there in his place


depends on training camp. Kaut needs to show up and be the player hes suppose to be. Donato would be a nice add if they PTO him and see how he does at training camp too
 
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