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only way id be willing to give miller

Created by: cooliny
Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 26, 2021
Published: Aug. 30, 2021
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we're probably losing a bit here too, but we get to sign long term for pettersson and hughes

incoming salty hab fans
Free Agent Signings
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8$8,250,000
8$10,000,000
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VAN
  1. Evans, Jake
  2. Romanov, Alexander
  3. 2022 1st round pick (MTL)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (ANA)
MTL
  1. Miller, J.T.
  2. Rathbone, Jack
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1st + 3rd + Evans = Miller (similar to pieces Canucks gave up for Miller originally)

Rathbone = Romanov (team needs, Podkolzin says yes)
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2022
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:03 p.m.
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I think Montreal needs to send more
Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:03 p.m.
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Montreal needs to add more for the part of the Miller trade. 1st and a top prospect is what I consider to be his value
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:04 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
I think Montreal needs to send more


Quoting: TheAlien
Montreal needs to add more for the part of the Miller trade


1st and a 2nd probably then, and they're sending us their first and trash prospects
Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:07 p.m.
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I think the trade is fair (you didn't undervalue Evans so good job).

But I wouldn't say Rathbone = Romanov... Romanov is a year younger, hits harder, defends better, and won WJC top D and runner up in his two experiences there.

I'd say the trade is probably fair value wise for MTL, but the habs are in no position to make this kind of move for Miller.... and I love Miller would really want him on the habs but MTL shouldn't offer that kind of package IMO.
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:08 p.m.
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For Miller I’d want a first a second plus a prospect and I’d rather not trade away Rathbone for no reason
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Shanesaw9
I think the trade is fair (you didn't undervalue Evans so good job).

But I wouldn't say Rathbone = Romanov... Romanov is a year younger, hits harder, defends better, and won WJC top D and runner up in his two experiences there.

I'd say the trade is probably fair value wise for MTL, but the habs are in no position to make this kind of move for Miller.... and I love Miller would really want him on the habs but MTL shouldn't offer that kind of package IMO.


If they don’t match for KK this would be a very good deal for them
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:08 p.m.
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Romanov>>rathbone
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:09 p.m.
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Quoting: UBS_ARENA
Romanov>>rathbone


I think the carryover from the Miller part of the deal suffices for the lack in value
Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:10 p.m.
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VAN only considers moving Miller next year off season.
Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:11 p.m.
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Quoting: PeterForsberg21
VAN only considers moving Miller next year off season.


Value would be a bit less then since he would be a rental
Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:12 p.m.
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Quoting: cooliny
Value would be a bit less then since he would be a rental


Benning has a burner on his ass to make the playoffs and they will need Miller in order to do that.
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:20 p.m.
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You've confused matters adding the Romanov for Rathbone part. That's it's own conversation. Just get rid of it.

Once you get rid of it, it seems a little light but not crazy
Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:25 p.m.
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Quoting: TheAlien
Montreal needs to add more for the part of the Miller trade. 1st and a top prospect is what I consider to be his value


If leafs had cap space i would offer Amirov, 1st and 2nd

would you do it?
Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:28 p.m.
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Quoting: LGuy54
If leafs had cap space i would offer Amirov, 1st and 2nd

would you do it?


Yup as long as it's your 2022 1st
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:30 p.m.
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Quoting: TheAlien
Yup as long as it's your 2022 1st


Sure!
Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:30 p.m.
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Lol did you really say Rathbone=Romanov? Habs easily declines this…. They have to tank for Wright since they’re not going back to the finals with that ****ty center core (even if they get Miller)
They need a 2C and 3C
Aug. 30, 2021 at 8:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Marchy
Lol did you really say Rathbone=Romanov? Habs easily declines this…. They have to tank for Wright since they’re not going back to the finals with that ****ty center core (even if they get Miller)
They need a 2C and 3C


keep dreaming 🤣
Aug. 30, 2021 at 9:14 p.m.
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Honestly remove Romanov and Rathbone and improve the 3rd to a 2nd and I'm pretty sure they'd accept.

Miller
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 9:16 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
Honestly remove Romanov and Rathbone and improve the 3rd to a 2nd and I'm pretty sure they'd accept.

Miller
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2022 1st
2022 2nd


The Canucks aren't doing that tho. I'd want a 1st and a top prospect at least for Miller
Aug. 30, 2021 at 9:22 p.m.
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The Canucks aren't doing that tho. I'd want a 1st and a top prospect at least for Miller


Just going on what OP originally offered. I'd rather keep Romanov vs Rathbone and simply up the draft pick quality for the difference in value between Romanov vs Rathbone. (IMO)
Aug. 30, 2021 at 10:26 p.m.
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Quoting: cooliny
keep dreaming 🤣


K bud stay deluded
 
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