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De Hann to Islanders Strome to MTL and Lindholm to Chicago

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Team: 2021-22 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 1, 2021
Published: Sep. 1, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Convoluted, but also beautiful.
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
De Hann is still a good 2nd pair LD and this pick is late. Islanders can afford to make this move.
NYI
  1. De Haan, Calvin
  2. Shaw, Andrew
Additional Details:
Since the islanders are already using off-season LTIR, Shaw can allow them to exceed the cap by his cap hit.

If you are confused about why Shaw allows the islanders to get De Hann without sending cap back then ask in the comments but the short explanation is

Islanders are using off-season LTIR with Boychuck (6 mil) they have about 2 mil of that space left unused.

They can acquire and put Shaw on LTIR (Boychuck 6 AAV + Shaw’s 3.9 = 9.9 AAV)

Acquiring De Hann would only cost them 650k on their existing relief pool. That cap space goes away at the seasons start.
2.
CHI
    Flips offer-sheet compensation of KK to Chicago for Strome.
    MTL
    1. Strome, Dylan
    Additional Details:
    Purely hypothetical, but see my recent post about how KK being offersheeted make me believe that is a comparable for a Strome deal.
    3.
    CHI
    1. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
    2. 2022 3rd round pick (CAR)
    CAR
      Prior trade.
      4.
      CHI
      1. Lindholm, Hampus
      Additional Details:
      Extension
      ANA
      1. Beaudin, Nicolas
      2. Johnson, Reese
      3. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
      4. 2022 2nd round pick (COL)
      5. 2022 3rd round pick (CAR)
      Additional Details:
      Comparable to the Seth Jones deal.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:28 p.m.
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      De Haan get a 3rd.

      Isles don’t need the Shaw LTIR then can send down Hickey, Leo, Panik and Johnston to save cap if they want
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:29 p.m.
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      Strome wouldn't get an 6 mil offer sheet, likely 4, especially after looking at the hawks cap situation
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:29 p.m.
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      Kyle from Chicago
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      Quoting: Warrior24
      De Haan get a 3rd.

      Isles don’t need the Shaw LTIR then can send down Hickey, Leo, Panik and Johnston to save cap if they want


      The Shaw LTIR is basically free space, but if you say you don’t need it that’s fine.
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:30 p.m.
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      Add Hickey, remove Shaw, and Isles prob say yes.
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:32 p.m.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:35 p.m.
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      I’d rather have Dvorak tbh… I’d say a 2nd rounder and someone like Ylonen would be my best offer to Strome
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:37 p.m.
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      Quoting: Marchy
      I’d rather have Dvorak tbh… I’d say a 2nd rounder and someone like Ylonen would be my best offer to Strome


      I would say with the premium that centers are going for now, that won’t be enough.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:37 p.m.
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      Quoting: Stan_Bowman
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      I honestly don't think it's all that bad except that we send De Haan to the Isles for a 4th with no retention or 3rd with $1M or so retained. Shaw goes to LITR so shouldn't be included at a cost to the Hawks. Lindholm is top line, he's better then Mccabe
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:41 p.m.
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      Quoting: Stan_Bowman
      I would say with the premium that centers are going for now, that won’t be enough.


      I’m okay with adding a d-man prospect like Brook if that makes you accept it
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:41 p.m.
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      Quoting: Stan_Bowman
      The Shaw LTIR is basically free space, but if you say you don’t need it that’s fine.


      it puts the Islanders over the off-season salary cap.percemtage
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:43 p.m.
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      Montreal laughs in Chicago's face at this offer. Strome isn't worth a 1st and 3rd and they're not overpaying when they done have to. Strome isn't their guy, they're heavily interested in Dvorak from Arizona who's far more worth those picks.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:43 p.m.
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      Quoting: ChiHawk
      I honestly don't think it's all that bad except that we send De Haan to the Isles for a 4th with no retention or 3rd with $1M or so retained. Shaw goes to LITR so shouldn't be included at a cost to the Hawks. Lindholm is top line, he's better then Mccabe


      The million or so in actual cash shouldn't be at a cost?
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:44 p.m.
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      Quoting: TrueCanuck
      Montreal laughs in Chicago's face at this offer. Strome isn't worth a 1st and 3rd and they're not overpaying when they done have to. Strome isn't their guy, they're heavily interested in Dvorak from Arizona who's far more worth those picks.


      Gonna cost more than that !!!
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:44 p.m.
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      Quoting: Bolts20Cup
      Gonna cost more than that !!!


      For Strome of Dvorak?
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:45 p.m.
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      Drouins numbers are better then Strome's at Center
      Both are inconsistent and cant win faceoffs over 50%
      Strome's 2 years younger which is a big upside but no enough for a 1st and a 3rd
      I'd offer off Conditional 2nd's Plural with them converting if Strome hits 60 points and if he make ECF playing 50% with MTL


      He's a pending RFA which just leaves us in the same position next year we are with KK this year
      We'd much rather Dvorak who's on a good contract with Term and is a top 10 NHL Faceoff Center yearly
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:53 p.m.
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      Anaheim says Yes and wishes you and Hampus good luck. The third or perhaps Johnson may be overkill.
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
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      Quoting: TrueCanuck
      Montreal laughs in Chicago's face at this offer. Strome isn't worth a 1st and 3rd and they're not overpaying when they done have to. Strome isn't their guy, they're heavily interested in Dvorak from Arizona who's far more worth those picks.


      AZ isn't trading away Dvorak for a 1st and 3rd. AZ needs MORE Dvorak's not less. He's on a really good contract and that's a premium to budget teams like AZ. Romanov would be required for Dvorak.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 3:59 p.m.
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      Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
      Strome wouldn't get an 6 mil offer sheet, likely 4, especially after looking at the hawks cap situation


      KK would never receive a 6,1M OS oh wait.....
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 4:01 p.m.
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      Quoting: Billy739
      Drouins numbers are better then Strome's at Center
      Both are inconsistent and cant win faceoffs over 50%
      Strome's 2 years younger which is a big upside but no enough for a 1st and a 3rd
      I'd offer off Conditional 2nd's Plural with them converting if Strome hits 60 points and if he make ECF playing 50% with MTL


      He's a pending RFA which just leaves us in the same position next year we are with KK this year
      We'd much rather Dvorak who's on a good contract with Term and is a top 10 NHL Faceoff Center yearly


      Stop it with Drouin. It's not the 2 years younger...it's the $2.5M overpay AND another year of that terrible contract.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 4:05 p.m.
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      Quoting: exo2769
      Stop it with Drouin. It's not the 2 years younger...it's the $2.5M overpay AND another year of that terrible contract.


      This year
      Strome is Arbitration eligible and pending RFA
      His will be worse
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 4:06 p.m.
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      Quoting: Stan_Bowman
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      It's all dependent on Toews and what condition he's in to come back. As a Hawks fan, I would not do the swap all by itself. The 30th pick in the draft isn't exciting. Having center depth for a playoff run is exciting. With that said...if Stan could somehow convince ANA into a 3-way trade, Then yes I would. Hampus would indeed be a VERY nice piece to have. This would introduct another problem next year with the cap, but Hampus is indeed a very good player.

      As a side note...I think ANA would actually rather have Vlasic. The 6'6" defensive Dman next to Drysdale would be perfect.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 4:08 p.m.
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      Quoting: Billy739
      This year
      Strome is Arbitration eligible and pending RFA
      His will be worse


      If it's a higher cap hit...he would have either A.) Earned it or B.) You can let him walk. If Drouin doesn't make a monster comeback...he's a cap dump. At least if Strome stinks...you just let him walk.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 4:08 p.m.
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      Quoting: exo2769
      Stop it with Drouin. It's not the 2 years younger...it's the $2.5M overpay AND another year of that terrible contract.


      Drouin gets crapped on because of his contract like you said
      Take it away and everyone loves him

      KK and Strome will face these situations
      KK because of the OS
      Strome because CHI has no choice but to pay
      MTL if they acquired him would have no choice but to pay

      We already got Suzuki to worry about
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 4:09 p.m.
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      Quoting: exo2769
      If it's a higher cap hit...he would have either A.) Earned it or B.) You can let him walk. If Drouin doesn't make a monster comeback...he's a cap dump. At least if Strome stinks...you just let him walk.


      hahaahahaha
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 4:11 p.m.
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      Quoting: Bolts20Cup
      The million or so in actual cash shouldn't be at a cost?


      I said Shaw shouldn't be included in the trade at a cost to the Hawks....meaning, no reason for the 3rd wealthiest team in the league to not just put Shaw on LITR and eat the $1m
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