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If my second favourite team is making the playoffs

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Team: 2021-22 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 1, 2021
Published: Sep. 1, 2021
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 7:35 p.m.
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      TDA is better than Stetcher, he is a 50 point D man... AND THAT IS A LOT for stetcher.

      As for the rest of it... eh. Gustafsson isn't needed

      Gardiner is LTIR fodder for the year

      Skylar Brind'amour actually has value as a prospect
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 7:40 p.m.
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      Oilers decline. You take our cup, we take your first-born son.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 7:43 p.m.
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      assuming deangelo doesnt fight someone in the locker room he should play over stecher
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 7:51 p.m.
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      Here’s to hoping that the Canes don’t become my 2nd favourite team.
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 7:52 p.m.
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      TDA is better than Stetcher, he is a 50 point D man... AND THAT IS A LOT for stetcher.

      As for the rest of it... eh. Gustafsson isn't needed

      Gardiner is LTIR fodder for the year

      Skylar Brind'amour actually has value as a prospect


      1. If TDA lashes out at his teammates after an OT loss during the regular season like he did with the Rangers, imagine what it would be like during the playoffs if it happened again.

      Character is more important than putting up points when you're already winning against weaker teams IMO.

      If TDA's character didn't improve in Tampa, Arizona or New York, what makes you think it will improve in Carolina?

      It will take more than TDA and his level of character to fill the shoes left behind by Dougie.



      As for Stecher, it's a 3rd round pick for someone who did good at the World Championships and in the playoffs for the Canucks.

      I'm just spitballing what his trade value is as a rental.



      2. Carolina needs somebody to quarterback the power-play if it falls apart.

      That's why I brought in Gustafsson.



      3. I didn't know that Gardiner is eligible for LTIR.

      Would you be able to tell me the extent of injury and how long he'll be out of the lineup?



      4. Brind'amour's son hasn't been signed to an ELC by the Oilers yet since being drafted in the 6th round in 2017.

      That tells me all I need to know about his trade value.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 8:00 p.m.
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      Quoting: Ausbear17
      Oilers decline. You take our cup, we take your first-born son.


      This is over someone who was drafted years ago in the 6th round and who hasn't ever signed a contract with the Oilers.

      And you're fuming over a Cup Final from 15 years ago.



      Sometimes, it's healthy to have a good day once in a while.

      You should try it sometime.
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 8:02 p.m.
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      Quoting: DirtyDangle
      assuming deangelo doesnt fight someone in the locker room he should play over stecher


      I'm assuming he does.
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 8:04 p.m.
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      Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
      Here’s to hoping that the Canes don’t become my 2nd favourite team.


      Why would they?
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 8:04 p.m.
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      1. If TDA lashes out at his teammates after an OT loss during the regular season like he did with the Rangers, imagine what it would be like during the playoffs if it happened again.

      Character is more important than putting up points when you're already winning against weaker teams IMO.

      If TDA's character didn't improve in Tampa, Arizona or New York, what makes you think it will improve in Carolina?

      It will take more than TDA and his level of character to fill the shoes left behind by Dougie.



      As for Stecher, it's a 3rd round pick for someone who did good at the World Championships and in the playoffs for the Canucks.

      I'm just spitballing what his trade value is as a rental.



      2. Carolina needs somebody to quarterback the power-play if it falls apart.

      That's why I brought in Gustafsson.



      3. I didn't know that Gardiner is eligible for LTIR.

      Would you be able to tell me the extent of injury and how long he'll be out of the lineup?



      4. Brind'amour's son hasn't been signed to an ELC by the Oilers yet since being drafted in the 6th round in 2017.

      That tells me all I need to know about his trade value.


      TDA is a 50 point D man. If he keeps his nose clean, he'll QB the PP. He'll play with Slavin 5v5. He's going to be fine on the ice, no one doubts that.

      Gardiner is having back surgery, he's out until after the TDL at the earliest, probably the entire year with recovery time. That's what Civian was saying in the Athletic

      Skyler Brind'Amour dropped to the 6th round. He's not a blue chip guy, but there's a lot of late round guys with good value. Look at Alexander Pashin. Dude was a 7th rounder and is one of the best prospects in the Hurricanes organization right now
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 8:11 p.m.
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      TDA is a 50 point D man. If he keeps his nose clean, he'll QB the PP. He'll play with Slavin 5v5. He's going to be fine on the ice, no one doubts that.

      Gardiner is having back surgery, he's out until after the TDL at the earliest, probably the entire year with recovery time. That's what Civian was saying in the Athletic

      Skyler Brind'Amour dropped to the 6th round. He's not a blue chip guy, but there's a lot of late round guys with good value. Look at Alexander Pashin. Dude was a 7th rounder and is one of the best prospects in the Hurricanes organization right now


      I'm just starting to get to know the Canes and how they operate as a team.

      So, thanks a bunch smile


      If TDA keeps his nose clean, you can pretend my idea of trading for Stecher never happened.

      As for Brind'amour's son, what is he worth in your opinion?
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 8:27 p.m.
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      Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
      Here’s to hoping that the Canes don’t become my 2nd favourite team.


      whatcha gonna do if the OS isnt matched 👀👀
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 8:39 p.m.
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      Why would they?


      If the habs don’t match the offer sheet.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 8:40 p.m.
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      Quoting: Zuki9797
      whatcha gonna do if the OS isnt matched 👀👀


      Cry a lot.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 8:58 p.m.
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      1. If TDA lashes out at his teammates after an OT loss during the regular season like he did with the Rangers, imagine what it would be like during the playoffs if it happened again.

      Character is more important than putting up points when you're already winning against weaker teams IMO.

      If TDA's character didn't improve in Tampa, Arizona or New York, what makes you think it will improve in Carolina?

      It will take more than TDA and his level of character to fill the shoes left behind by Dougie.



      As for Stecher, it's a 3rd round pick for someone who did good at the World Championships and in the playoffs for the Canucks.

      I'm just spitballing what his trade value is as a rental.



      2. Carolina needs somebody to quarterback the power-play if it falls apart.

      That's why I brought in Gustafsson.



      3. I didn't know that Gardiner is eligible for LTIR.

      Would you be able to tell me the extent of injury and how long he'll be out of the lineup?



      4. Brind'amour's son hasn't been signed to an ELC by the Oilers yet since being drafted in the 6th round in 2017.

      That tells me all I need to know about his trade value.


      While I agree that there’s some risk with TDA due to his off ice and locker room antics I do think There’s an argument that there’s a better chance he stays in line here versus the other places you listed - RBA. There’s other coaches who can hold him in line but Tippett (assuming that’s who coached him in zona?) and Quinn aren’t coaches that can handle a room as well as rba. It remains to be seen but if he does keep the off ice stuff clean I think he’ll have a huge season playing with Slavin and running PP1.

      Welcome to the Canes! wink
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 8:59 p.m.
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      Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
      Cry a lot.

      Plenty of room for you as a Canes fan!
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 9:00 p.m.
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      Haha, I see what you did there! It would only make sense if Carolina had Skylar honestly, but no we want him!…. Honestly, Kotkaniemi would be an awesome add! I feel like he would take less then what he is making, and with term unless he proves he is worth 6M.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 9:05 p.m.
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      As for Brind'amour's son, what is he worth in your opinion?


      As an Oilers fan that blames some of the decade of darkness on Rod the Bod and his merry men of Caners there is a slight satisfaction in watching Oilers management ruin his sons career. BUUUUUUTTTT
      As a human I hope this trade is made it would be cool to see a Father-Son/Coach-Player thing happen if he can crack the line-up.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 9:41 p.m.
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      Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
      Cry a lot.



      No username change of any sort?
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 9:47 p.m.
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      I'm assuming he does.


      then trade that boy to the habs.
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 9:48 p.m.
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      I think you are bang on with value for Stetcher, some people don't think he's worth it but good luck finding a RD with this cheap if a cap hit that is available for less. Also they probably still would be inclined to make the trade as injuries will occur and it doesn't hurt to have back up defencemen.
      Skylar would be wicked add for the canes just for the family value. I'm sure you could throw them a late round pick and be done with it.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 9:49 p.m.
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      Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
      Here’s to hoping that the Canes don’t become my 2nd favourite team.


      canes are a great 2nd team.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 10:20 p.m.
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      Quoting: DirtyDangle
      canes are a great 2nd team.


      I mean I already like the Canes a lot (with the exception of the Tony DeAngelo signing). They’re probably in my top 10 teams. I’d just prefer to have my favourite player on my favourite team.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 10:21 p.m.
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      Quoting: Zuki9797
      No username change of any sort?


      That’s something that I’d think about down the road if it happened. But I’d say likely not, since he’s still my favourite player.
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      Sep. 1, 2021 at 10:40 p.m.
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      Brind'amour's son hasn't been signed to an ELC by the Oilers yet since being drafted in the 6th round in 2017.

      That tells me all I need to know about his trade value.


      Slow down there Spanky. The young man chose the collegiate route. Given his production to date I'd say that was wise of him. There is no rush for the Oilers to sign him, they hold only his rights until the summer of 2023. It's a draft and watch scenario.
      Sep. 1, 2021 at 11:02 p.m.
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      Quoting: DirtyDangle
      then trade that boy to the habs.


      That would open a completely different can of worms.

      With another fanbase.



      And you know what would happen if I did?

      They would use the same points and exact same line of reasoning that I'm using in this very thread wink
       
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