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Great Fit

Created by: l19f9
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 1, 2021
Published: Sep. 1, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Boston Bruins
Team Explanation
If the rumours are true Boston needs to be an active player in this.
Trades
1.
BOS
  1. Hertl, Tomas
SJS
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Vaakanainen, Urho
  3. Moore, John
  4. 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
BOS
CGY
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
2023
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
2024
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,785,674$1,956,507$125,000$1,714,326
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BOS
Marchand, Brad
$6,125,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
BOS
Bergeron, Patrice
$6,875,000
C
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
BOS
Pastrnak, David
$6,666,667
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
BOS
Hall, Taylor
$6,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
SJS
Hertl, Tomas
$5,625,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
BOS
Smith, Craig
$3,100,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
BOS
Foligno, Nick
$3,800,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
BOS
Haula, Erik
$2,375,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
BOS
Coyle, Charlie
$5,250,000
C, RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 5
BOS
Frederic, Trent
$1,050,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
BOS
Nosek, Tomas
$1,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
BOS
Lazar, Curtis
$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BOS
Forbort, Derek
$3,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
BOS
McAvoy, Charlie
$4,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
BOS
Ullmark, Linus
$5,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
BOS
Grzelcyk, Matt
$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 3
BOS
Carlo, Brandon
$4,100,000
RD
UFA - 6
BOS
Swayman, Jeremy
$925,000
G
RFA - 2
BOS
Reilly, Mike
$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
BOS
Clifton, Connor
$1,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BOS
Zboril, Jakub
$725,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
BOS
Wagner, Chris
$1,350,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
BOS
Kuhlman, Karson
$725,000
RW, C
RFA - 1

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Sep. 2, 2021 at 12:22 a.m.
#26
Joined: Aug. 2019
Posts: 2,458
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
How many wins has Calvin Pickard averaged over the last three seasons?


Quoting: CMcAvoy73
No. You don’t. That’s a different thing. You see people say 82 game pace all the time. If a guy plays a game every season for a decade, and finishes up with 10 points, does he average 82 points a season? Of course not.

When someone says average, the tend to mean….average.


These are some of the worst strawman arguments I've ever seen.
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Sep. 2, 2021 at 1:41 a.m.
#27
Joined: Aug. 2019
Posts: 7,586
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Quoting: Klara
These are some of the worst strawman arguments I've ever seen.


I dont have a reason to hate Bruins fans but they just seem so argumentative and usally without any real good arguments
Sep. 2, 2021 at 6:35 a.m.
#28
Joined: Dec. 2017
Posts: 307
Likes: 73
Points per season is points per season. And he's not playing top line in Boston, so middle 6. Honestly I don't think what SJ wants is going to work for Boston, likely no deal.
Sep. 2, 2021 at 7:21 a.m.
#29
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 9,036
Likes: 3,474
Deal here isn't enough, but sharks fans are high if if they think Boston is moving Lysell and a 1st for Hertl.
Sep. 2, 2021 at 12:55 p.m.
#30
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Quoting: papishark
I dont have a reason to hate Bruins fans but they just seem so argumentative and usally without any real good arguments


It's just this guy constantly.

Tomas Hertl is a middle 6 center because Calvin Pickard.

Tomas Hertl is a middle 6 center because irrelevant hypothetical scenario.

It's also the complaining anytime someone using actual numbers, he needs to present insane strawman arguments to try and justify his insanity.
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Sep. 2, 2021 at 1:19 p.m.
#31
Joined: Jan. 2019
Posts: 1,014
Likes: 265
Quoting: glarson17
A not great defenseman. Ristolainen who is 26, makes $5.4 mil on the last year of his deal, and since ppg over a career is a thing his is .45 ppg. His return was the 2020 14th overall pick, 2022 PHI 2nd round and a 26 yo LD (Hagg). That trade is more enticing than Boston’s offered hear.

Hertl has averaged .81 ppg over the last two shortened seasons while getting covid, is a 27 year old center on the last year of his deal worth $5.6 mil, and is a metrics star.

He will cost much more Risto and more than the trade offered hear.


tbf you cant use this trade as a comparable when everyone with a brain knows that trade was a SEVERE overpayment. BUF got lucky that Fletcher was high af that day.
Sep. 2, 2021 at 1:31 p.m.
#32
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 1,422
Likes: 855
Quoting: KennyBoi
tbf you cant use this trade as a comparable when everyone with a brain knows that trade was a SEVERE overpayment. BUF got lucky that Fletcher was high af that day.


It doesn’t matter, it sets the precedent for what to expect in trades moving forward. Look at what Jones got after. They are basically the same age and cap hit on the last year of their deals. It’s a fair comparison.
Sep. 2, 2021 at 2:29 p.m.
#33
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Quoting: glarson17
It doesn’t matter, it sets the precedent for what to expect in trades moving forward. Look at what Jones got after. They are basically the same age and cap hit on the last year of their deals. It’s a fair comparison.


Once again, everyone knows that Jones trade was a SEVERE overpay. Sure it sets the market, but only the dumb enough gms will bite. I doubt Hertl gets moved before the season starts, and by the time we reach the deadline, the market wont sustain the Jones & Risto trade rates
Sep. 2, 2021 at 2:44 p.m.
#34
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Quoting: KennyBoi
Once again, everyone knows that Jones trade was a SEVERE overpay. Sure it sets the market, but only the dumb enough gms will bite. I doubt Hertl gets moved before the season starts, and by the time we reach the deadline, the market wont sustain the Jones & Risto trade rates


That was my point is that it sets the market. Jones is different with extension and was an overpay but I think the Risto trade is a more than fair comparison. I agree that if he’s moved it will be at the deadline.
Sep. 2, 2021 at 2:52 p.m.
#35
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Major overpay by the bruins, obviously... try again
Sep. 2, 2021 at 9:26 p.m.
#36
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Quoting: LogicOnly
Major overpay by the bruins, obviously... try again


I could see how you think that if you take Hertl out of the deal
Sep. 3, 2021 at 9:57 a.m.
#37
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Quoting: papishark
I could see how you think that if you take Hertl out of the deal


Weird comment, but yeah either way its a major overpay, obviously. Like nobody can disagree lol
 
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