Hang on, why are we gifting a 2nd for a guy that you had to be paid to get? De Haan can play both sides and is better defensively. They will also likely fetch similar returns on TDL if the hawks want to sell.

if the leafs wanted someone to be that bad at defence they'd just put Engvall back on D with tennis shoes instead of skates and save the picks

You are overrating all of your players

You'd be lucky to get a 5 for Pysyk

Scandella was trade for second and fifth at deadline. And I said similar deals taking cap hit back so team saves money. It didn’t have to be blackhawks it could be any team. I didn’t think u were that high on him and said u were in playoffs orherwise it would make since. And believe butcher will have big season playing a lot minutes on young Sabre’s team.

He is so cheap and good utility guy and will play top 6 minutes all year for Sabre’s. Should get descent point totals

Scandella had 3 points in 20 games for Canadians and played terrible for Sabre’s before that. He was dealt for 2nd and fifth. These guys should get increase in minutes which will increase point totals and dman are always needed at deadline or in general.

Big dman for playoff run won’t hurt. Need dman more then engvall. Who is cap dumb.

What does scandella have to do with anything? Also your answer to everything is they will uave higher point totals bc they are playing on a bad team. So 2 things. 1. If theyre playing for the sabres theyre likely to play worse (like every other player in recent memory thats played for the sabres and another team). 2. Teams look for other things not just point totals.
But lets go through the trades.

VGK - they aready said they arent moving krebs in an eichel trade.
TOR - hagg gets a 4th at best, probably a 5th tho. Also TOR doesnt need another LHD they need a RHD.
NYI - nobodys going to give you a 1st for rielly smith unless the contract youre taking back is jeff skinner bad.
CHI - why would chicago pay a 2nd to save ~700k. Its a laterall move from butcher to CDH plus CDH can play both sides.
TBL - you will at best get a 6th for pysyk. Hes not good and hes not going to play for anyone whos trading for him at the deadline.
MTL - this is the only trade i dont think the sabres rob anyone.
NYR - again i dont see you getting a 3rd for eakin but i havent really watched him so idk exactly what his value is.

Lucky if you get a 5

Hate on Sabre’s they deserve it. But when u give a player double the minutes they will put up more points. And taking back bad contract at deadline will cost picks. Like I said in each one any team with similar contract coming back.

1.) like I said it would be at deadline and I believe Vegas is going to struggle this year because they don’t have 1c and Questionable 2c. And to get top center need to give something up and don’t believe it is a bad trade for either sides.

2.) could be any team but prolly 3rd was little to optimistic their.

3.) butcher is a player I think will have big bounce back year playing Sabre’s and will be very valuable at deadline. Similar player to vatanen last year. Point producer dman and can move the puck. Could be wrong but I would bet he will be most valuable asset at deadline. Also I didn’t realize they were high on de haan. Would have to be another team with player coming back being similar cap dump.
4.) psysk will play top 4 minutes and increase point total but at this point u know wat u are getting. I just figured with his contract being so cheap a team could get desperate and over pay like Tampa couple injuries and no cap room. And that 3rd is closer to 4th. But prolly looking at 4th from Tampa at best. Unless we take bad contract back.

5.) will never happen but hoping Sabre’s can trade for player similar to brook. Need young RHD and would be willing to add young LHD

6.) Eakins is good 4th line center who can play 3rd line in crunch on a good team that could kill penalties. Not sure wat his value would be at deadline. Guessing 3rd at best prolly 4/5 unless what bad contract

bad dman hurt plenty. Engvall is at least a decent 4th liner. Hagg is 100x the cap dump engvall is

How many teams the last 3 deadlines moved out bad contracts. Thats something that happens before the season.

1. Vegas made back to back WCFs with this top 6. I think theyll be ok. Also you still didnt answer the part where they already said this offseason that they arent moving krebs in an eichel deal.

2. Fair enough.

3. Could butcher have a bounce back year? Potentially. But you keep pointing to point totals for these guys, theres nobody to score the puck. Eichels going to be out for a nice chunk of the season and in this scenario hes being traded. Reinharts gone, olofsson is a pp specialist and dahlins gonna be running pp1. I just dont see how butcher has a bounceback year on a team as bad as buffalo.

4. I really hope for buffalos sake pysyk doesnt play top 4 and i dont see that happening. For any contender, pysyk is an 8th dman. You dont get a 3rd or a 4th for that. You get something like a 6th from a team thats willing to overpay.

5. Yeah they do need a RHD.

6. Ok i just havent seen any trade with him bringing back a 3rd.

CDH can play both sides and defensively is better so I think we would keep him. I don't dislike Butcher tbh, I actually wouldn't have had any issue with signing him prior to all our moves but now its not a fit. In saying that I wouldn't mind seeing how he would play next to S.Jones but there aint no way that it would be worth a 2nd and CDH. All in my humble opinion.