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Hertl might be the one

Created by: EccE
Initial Creation Date: Sep 3, 2021
Published: Sep 3 at 1:38
Team: 2022-23 Minnesota Wild
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Please don't pay too much attention to the trade itself. What I'm trying to demonstrate is how we can fit Hertl into our long-term plans. Obviously it is not a perfect trade.

I'm basing Hertl's deal loosely on the Couturier deal. I think they are pretty good comparables (to my understanding, I may be wrong), but obviously Hertl does not have a Selke.

For 23-24, the Wild have 14,6 million to sign Dumba, Boldy, Addison and depth. It's difficult, but manageable. 24-25 is a tough year, and then the Parise/Suter buyouts ease by multiple millions.

Is Hertl the C we need? Let me know!
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kaprizov, Kirill5$9,000,000
Fiala, Kevin6$6,700,000
Kähkönen, Kaapo3$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hertl, Tomas8$7,200,000
Sturm, Nico2$900,000
Rask, Victor1$850,000
Trades
1.
MIN
    Hertl
    SJS
    1. Greenway, Jordan [RFA Rights]
    2. 2022 1st round pick (MIN)
    3. 2022 5th round pick (SJS)
    2.
    MIN
    1. 2023 3rd round pick (NYR)
    Two years left at 6 million. He should not be treated as a horrible player just because of his contract.
    NYR
    1. Zuccarello, Mats
    Additional Details:
    I don't want to trade him, but his NMC changes to NTC and this is a pure cap move...
    Buyouts
    • Ryan Suter: $6,371,794
    • Zach Parise: $6,371,794
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2022
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    2023
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    NYR
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    2024
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$80,524,422$0$1,532,500$975,578
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    MIN
    Fiala, Kevin
    $6,700,000
    LW, RW
    RFA
    Hertl, Tomas
    $7,200,000
    C, RW
    UFA
    MIN
    Kaprizov, Kirill
    $9,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    MIN
    Foligno, Marcus
    $3,100,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Rossi, Marco
    $894,167
    C
    RFA - 2
    MIN
    Boldy, Matthew
    $880,833
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Beckman, Adam
    $894,167
    LW
    RFA - 2
    MIN
    Eriksson Ek, Joel
    $5,250,000
    C
    UFA - 7
    MIN
    Hartman, Ryan
    $1,700,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Rask, Victor
    $850,000
    C
    UFA
    MIN
    Gaudreau, Frédérick
    $1,200,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Sturm, Nico
    $900,000
    C
    UFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    MIN
    Brodin, Jonas
    $6,000,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    MIN
    Spurgeon, Jared
    $7,575,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    MIN
    Talbot, Cam
    $3,666,667
    G
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Lambos, Carson
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    MIN
    Dumba, Matt
    $6,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Kähkönen, Kaapo
    $2,000,000
    G
    RFA
    MIN
    Kulikov, Dmitry
    $2,250,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Addison, Calen
    $795,000
    RD
    RFA - 1

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    Sep 3 at 1:42
    #1
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    For that price via trade and new contract, sure. But I don’t think much changes given the reliance on unproven young guys.
    Sep 3 at 1:43
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    Quoting: jnowariak
    For that price via trade and new contract, sure.


    The trade is probably an underpay, I just didn't have the motivation to do too much research on the values and stuff. That isn't the main point of this ACGM.
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    Sep 3 at 1:50
    #3
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    I can see Hertl to MIN, but it'll cost a top prospect and 1st.
    Sep 3 at 2:00
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    Quoting: goodfella
    I can see Hertl to MIN, but it'll cost a top prospect and 1st.


    It's going to be tough finding the right price. Obviously, if Hertl comes with an extension, the price is high. Otherwise, he is just a rental and not worth a blue-chip prospect + a 1st.
    Sep 3 at 2:34
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    Quoting: goodfella
    I can see Hertl to MIN, but it'll cost a top prospect and 1st.


    I can’t, according to his Czech Interview he likes the east coast for easier travel, what’s to compete (minny isn’t a cup contender) wants a good place to raise his son, really wants to play with Czech players,

    Minny really doesn’t meet any of those requirements
    Sep 3 at 2:38
    #6
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    My ask is Boldy and the first, if Hertl extends with you.
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    Sep 3 at 2:52
    #7
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    I like everything showing here. My only concern is the future D core. It's expecting Addison, Lambos and whoever else to step up in a hurry. Plus you have the aging of the top 2, plus extending Dumba.
    Sep 3 at 7:56
    #8
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    Hertl is incredibly intriguing if he's extended. We'd probably have to send Fiala to San Jose to make it work though and I'm not sure whether or not they'd want him
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    Sep 5 at 9:42
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    Quoting: TanSor
    Hertl is incredibly intriguing if he's extended. We'd probably have to send Fiala to San Jose to make it work though and I'm not sure whether or not they'd want him


    I don’t think Fiala makes for SJS. I think you’re looking at a 1st and some other piece, likely equivalent to a 2nd if they move him soon.

    Don’t let Fiala become the new Dumba. Just because he’s likely to move doesn’t mean he makes sense for the move. Long way of saying don’t try to force it.
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    Sep 5 at 9:35
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    Quoting: jnowariak
    I don’t think Fiala makes for SJS. I think you’re looking at a 1st and some other piece, likely equivalent to a 2nd if they move him soon.

    Don’t let Fiala become the new Dumba. Just because he’s likely to move doesn’t mean he makes sense for the move. Long way of saying don’t try to force it.


    Not saying I want him moved, I'd love to keep him. But if we want Hertl we're going to have to move cap one way or another. I think a 1st and 2nd is pretty fair value-wise
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    Sep 6 at 11:56
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    Quoting: TanSor
    Not saying I want him moved, I'd love to keep him. But if we want Hertl we're going to have to move cap one way or another. I think a 1st and 2nd is pretty fair value-wise


    So just to fully bring everything together, I think you are right that one of those guys needs to be moved. And it will likely have to be under market given it’s a cap move. So you’re looking at a 1st, 2nd, and Dumba/Fiala for Hertl when it’s all said and done. You fill one hole by making another.

    Also just playing devils advocate. Maybe we can throw Rask to OTT retained and get Brown back on a flier. As much as it sucks, those are the moves we’re probably gonna see.
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