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Created by: Wreckless
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 3, 2021
Published: Sep. 3, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,000,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (CAR)
CAR
    Kotkaniemi offer sheet.
    2.
    SJS
    1. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
    2. 2022 3rd round pick (MTL)
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2022
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    Logo of the STL
    2023
    Logo of the MTL
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    Logo of the MTL
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$68,597,144$597,561$1,557,500$12,902,856
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $2,125,000$2,125,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $5,625,000$5,625,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,150,000$1,150,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 6
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    C
    UFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $875,000$875,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,343,750$2,343,750
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,875,000$2,875,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $859,167$859,167 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
    LD
    RFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,857,143$7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $950,000$950,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $950,000$950,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 1

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    Sep. 3, 2021 at 1:51 p.m.
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    Just need a good prospect and probably yeah.
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    Sep. 3, 2021 at 1:57 p.m.
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    So what you are trying to say is KK = Hertl? Pretty sure you will have to add, because that is not a good move for SJ.
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    Sep. 3, 2021 at 1:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: LittleBuddha
    So what you are trying to say is KK = Hertl? Pretty sure you will have to add, because that is not a good move for SJ.


    Exactly what I was going to say! If Hertl could be had for that why wouldn’t Carolina have gotten Hertl instead?
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    Sep. 3, 2021 at 3:02 p.m.
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    I don't believe the Habs would be on Hertl's 3 team trade list. Not knocking the Habs I believe most players prefer to stay in the US rather than play in Canada, especially nowadays.
    Sep. 3, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.
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    The leafs paid more for 11 games and 5 points of Nick Foligno. This is horrendous for us.
    Sep. 3, 2021 at 4:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: LittleBuddha
    So what you are trying to say is KK = Hertl? Pretty sure you will have to add, because that is not a good move for SJ.


    Hertl is a rental. One year then UFA.
    KK can sign an extension Jan 1st at a new cap hit.
    RFAs have more value than UFAs.
    Hertl is a better player than KK.
    Remains to be seen who has more value in the trade/offer sheet market. My guess is Hertl, but I doubt it’s by much.
    Sep. 3, 2021 at 4:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    Exactly what I was going to say! If Hertl could be had for that why wouldn’t Carolina have gotten Hertl instead?


    Cuz Hertl probably wouldn’t waive his NTC to go to Carolina. As Dougie Hamilton showed us, even New Jersey is preferable to Carolina for some UFAs. Dundon is a fool. A rich fool, yes, but still a fool, nonetheless.
    Sep. 3, 2021 at 5:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: kscoop
    I don't believe the Habs would be on Hertl's 3 team trade list. Not knocking the Habs I believe most players prefer to stay in the US rather than play in Canada, especially nowadays.


    Some American players, sure. But do you believe this is true of most Czech players? I don’t.
    Btw, recent quality UFAs or soon to be UFAs who’ve chosen Montreal long term?
    Gallagher, Petry, Toffoli, Anderson, Hoffman, Edmundson, Allen, Armia, Savard…

    Nuff said.
    Sep. 3, 2021 at 5:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: FunMustBeAlways
    The leafs paid more for 11 games and 5 points of Nick Foligno. This is horrendous for us.


    Horrendous is when you let quality players leave as a UFA for nothing. If the Sharks are being honest with themselves, they’re not winning much of anything this year.
    Sep. 3, 2021 at 5:10 p.m.
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    Quoting: Wreckless
    Horrendous is when you let quality players leave as a UFA for nothing. If the Sharks are being honest with themselves, they’re not winning much of anything this year.


    cool, doesn't mean this is a good offer, other teams would easily beat it.
    Sep. 3, 2021 at 5:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: Wreckless
    Cuz Hertl probably wouldn’t waive his NTC to go to Carolina. As Dougie Hamilton showed us, even New Jersey is preferable to Carolina for some UFAs. Dundon is a fool. A rich fool, yes, but still a fool, nonetheless.


    I really think there is more to that story. either you guys have a bunch of good D in the minors and they feel confident they can replace him in short order.. or he wasn't a god locker room guy...
    I don't know but there has to be a legit reason to let a star D man walk.
    Sep. 3, 2021 at 5:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: Klara
    cool, doesn't mean this is a good offer, other teams would easily beat it.


    Hertl has a 3 team no trade. It basically means he’s picking his destination. He can sign an extension today. And the Habs have cap space and a hole at center with excellent wingers up and down the lineup on all 4 lines.

    It’s not a bad offer. Carolina’s pick could end up a lottery pick for all we know.
    Sep. 3, 2021 at 5:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    I really think there is more to that story. either you guys have a bunch of good D in the minors and they feel confident they can replace him in short order.. or he wasn't a god locker room guy...
    I don't know but there has to be a legit reason to let a star D man walk.


    There’s been an exodus of people leaving that organization not wanting to work for Dundon. Don’t need much more of a reason than that I’m afraid. With UFAs it’s the player’s choice, first and foremost. Not the team ‘s.
    Sep. 3, 2021 at 5:40 p.m.
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    There’s been an exodus of people leaving that organization not wanting to work for Dundon. Don’t need much more of a reason than that I’m afraid. With UFAs it’s the player’s choice, first and foremost. Not the team ‘s.


    fair. I don’t know very much about Carolina. other than my favorite Goalie of all time ended his career there! Artus Irbe.
    Sep. 3, 2021 at 6:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: LittleBuddha
    So what you are trying to say is KK = Hertl? Pretty sure you will have to add, because that is not a good move for SJ.

    No not at all. KK isn’t really worth the 1st and 3rd Carolina is going to give us lol
    Sep. 3, 2021 at 8:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Klara
    cool, doesn't mean this is a good offer, other teams would easily beat it.


    yes no one is waiving for Canada and if SJ wants to move him other east coast teams will offer much more.
     
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