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Created by: Redstinger
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 3, 2021
Published: Sep. 3, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hronek, Filip3$3,200,000
Smith, Givani3$900,000
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar
NYR
  1. Greiss, Thomas ($1,800,000 retained)
2.
DET
  1. Komarov, Leo
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (NYI)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (NYI)
  4. 2022 6th round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. DeKeyser, Danny ($2,500,000 retained)
3.
DET
  1. Zacha, Pavel
NJD
  1. Fabbri, Robby
4.
DET
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
5.
DET
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (CHI)
CAR
  1. Stecher, Troy
Buyouts
  • Frans Nielsen: $4,250,000
  • Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Thomas Greiss: $1,800,000 (50%)
  • Danny DeKeyser: $2,500,000 (50%)
  • Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
DET
DET
WSH
DET
NYI
WSH
CHI
DET
COL
VGK
DET
NYI
DET
2023
DET
DET
NYI
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
2024
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$61,654,723$0$2,018,750$19,845,277
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DET
Vrána, Jakub
$5,250,000
LW
UFA - 3
DET
Larkin, Dylan
$6,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
DET
Zadina, Filip
$894,167
RW, LW
RFA - 1
NJD
Zacha, Pavel
$2,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
DET
Suter, Pius
$3,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
$4,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
DET
Rasmussen, Michael
$1,460,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 3
DET
Veleno, Joseph
$894,167
C
RFA - 2
DET
Erne, Adam
$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
DET
Smith, Givani
$900,000
LW
RFA - 2
DET
Stephens, Mitchell
$737,500
C
RFA - 1
DET
Gagner, Sam
$850,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DET
Staal, Marc
$2,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
DET
Hronek, Filip
$3,200,000
RD
RFA - 3
DET
Nedeljkovic, Alex
$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
DET
Leddy, Nick
$5,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
DET
Seider, Moritz
$863,333
RD
RFA - 3
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
$2,425,000
G
RFA - 1
DET
Oesterle, Jordan
$1,350,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
DET
Lindström, Gustav
$850,000
RD
RFA - 2
DET
Newpower, Wyatt
$800,000
RD
RFA - 2

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Sep. 3 at 5:16 p.m.
#1
Joined: Jan. 2017
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Seems like a lateral move. Honestly can’t see Drury making it.
Sep. 3 at 5:18 p.m.
#2
MERCER SZN
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Devils rather have Zacha imo
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Sep. 3 at 5:23 p.m.
#3
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Horrible proposal for the isles, actually laughable.
Sep. 3 at 5:26 p.m.
#4
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Quoting: Devil1122
Devils rather have Zacha imo


1000% been tough sledding but he's evolving.
Sep. 3 at 5:31 p.m.
#5
Judd Bracket ripoff
Joined: Jul. 2019
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My favourite Part about cap friendly is Red Wings fans overvaluing the role players from their bottom feeder team
Sep. 3 at 5:36 p.m.
#6
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 12,912
Likes: 5,254
Devils decline
(a) Fabbri is a rental, (b) Zacha > Fabbri, and (c) bad blood between Fabbri and Hughes
Sep. 3 at 6:09 p.m.
#7
Joined: Aug. 2021
Posts: 1,595
Likes: 539
Massive decline from nyi. Dekeyser sucks. Take out the picks and the isles might still decline.
Sep. 3 at 6:10 p.m.
#8
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Quoting: The_Rocket
My favourite Part about cap friendly is Red Wings fans overvaluing the role players from their bottom feeder team


That bottom feeding team was only 2 points behind Vancouver last season. Refresh my memory how many Cups does Vancouver have?
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Sep. 3 at 6:41 p.m.
#9
Judd Bracket ripoff
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Posts: 1,937
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Quoting: aedoran
That bottom feeding team was only 2 points behind Vancouver last season. Refresh my memory how many Cups does Vancouver have?


Lol you don’t see Vancouver fans trying to trade away our older role players for picks and good young players. We know we have bad players, we just paid 9th overall to dump a bunch of them. We’re not trading away Myers retained for Hronek or shipping off roussell for a barrel of draft picks
Sep. 3 at 6:47 p.m.
#10
Joined: Oct. 2020
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Quoting: The_Rocket
My favourite Part about cap friendly is Red Wings fans overvaluing the role players from their bottom feeder team


Other than the dekeyser trade, those players could garner those picks to the right team

Oh and Greiss, that one is awful
Sep. 3 at 6:50 p.m.
#11
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Likes: 690
Quoting: The_Rocket
Lol you don’t see Vancouver fans trying to trade away our older role players for picks and good young players. We know we have bad players, we just paid 9th overall to dump a bunch of them. We’re not trading away Myers retained for Hronek or shipping off roussell for a barrel of draft picks


Yes you do. You must have selective memory issues. I have literally seen hundreds of lopsided Vancouver trades. Just because you're fairly reasonable doesn't mean the rest of your fan base is. I mean it was only like a week ago that your fans stop trading Jake Virtanen to teams for value.
Sep. 3 at 8:44 p.m.
#12
Buffbry
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Quoting: The_Rocket
My favourite Part about cap friendly is Red Wings fans overvaluing the role players from their bottom feeder team


My favorite part of cap friendly is a fan of a team that has 0 cups and can't even sign their 2 best players commenting on a team that will be better then them by next season and started their rebuild 5 years after the Canucks did.
Sep. 4 at 12:12 p.m.
#13
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Lol you don’t see Vancouver fans trying to trade away our older role players for picks and good young players. We know we have bad players, we just paid 9th overall to dump a bunch of them. We’re not trading away Myers retained for Hronek or shipping off roussell for a barrel of draft picks


You're kidding right? There's 2 or 3 Red Wing fans that make bad trade proposals on the regular. Most fans don't want Wings players traded at all, and are understanding that the Wings' older role players have little to no value at all. Also, Hronek > Myers (23 year old middle pairing RD with room to grow vs 31 year old more expensive middle pairing RD who will only get worse) and Roussel was a cap dump to Arizona, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to get at.
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Sep. 4 at 12:17 p.m.
#14
Judd Bracket ripoff
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Quoting: HypotheticalImpossibility
Hronek > Myers (23 year old middle pairing RD with room to grow vs 31 year old more expensive middle pairing RD who will only get worse) and Roussel was a cap dump to Arizona, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to get at.


That’s my whole point. Georgiev is 10 years younger and better than Greiss, similar to Hronek compared to Myers. Roussel had the same value the dekeyser with 2.5 million retained.

This AGM heavily over values it’s older players thinking they are equal to far younger players. I’ve seen many redwings fans do this, but I don’t see Canucks fans doing similar trades.
Sep. 4 at 12:35 p.m.
#15
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Lol you don’t see Vancouver fans trying to trade away our older role players for picks and good young players. We know we have bad players, we just paid 9th overall to dump a bunch of them. We’re not trading away Myers retained for Hronek or shipping off roussell for a barrel of draft picks


I didn't say anything about those trades as a matter of fact I think those trades are pretty lop sided. All I did was point out that Vancouver isn't a whole lot better than Detroit. Maybe you should go back and reread my post or get someone to read it to you because you obviously didn't understand it the first time.
Sep. 4 at 6:24 p.m.
#16
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Quoting: The_Rocket
That’s my whole point. Georgiev is 10 years younger and better than Greiss, similar to Hronek compared to Myers. Roussel had the same value the dekeyser with 2.5 million retained.

This AGM heavily over values it’s older players thinking they are equal to far younger players. I’ve seen many redwings fans do this, but I don’t see Canucks fans doing similar trades.


Oh, I see, thanks for clarifying. This particular post overvalues Wings players, sure. I don't think you'll find anyone that will argue against that.
Still not sure where you're getting the "many redwing fans" narrative though. Are you referring to the Mantha/Larkin/Bertuzzi discussions, or something else? Every fanbase has its crazy posters, but Detroit doesn't have that many relative to the rational ones in my opinion.
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Sep. 4 at 6:40 p.m.
#17
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Quoting: The_Rocket
That’s my whole point. Georgiev is 10 years younger and better than Greiss, similar to Hronek compared to Myers. Roussel had the same value the dekeyser with 2.5 million retained.

This AGM heavily over values it’s older players thinking they are equal to far younger players. I’ve seen many redwings fans do this, but I don’t see Canucks fans doing similar trades.

Every fan base has users that over value guys, the Nucks aren’t exempt. Also, how is Geo > Greiss? Please explain because one posted superior numbers while playing with an inferior defense. We can talk about value being different due to age/contract but saying Geo is currently better is a bit disingenuous.
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