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Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 3, 2021
Published: Sep. 3, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,200,000
3$900,000
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. Greiss, Thomas ($1,800,000 retained)
2.
DET
  1. Komarov, Leo
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (NYI)
  3. 2022 6th round pick (NYI)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. DeKeyser, Danny ($2,500,000 retained)
3.
4.
DET
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (WSH)
5.
DET
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (CHI)
Buyouts
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Buried
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$55,779,723$0$2,018,750$25,720,277
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,375,000$2,375,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,460,000$1,460,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$318,750$319K)
C
RFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$737,500$737,500
C
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RD
RFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,425,000$2,425,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Sep. 3, 2021 at 5:16 p.m.
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Seems like a lateral move. Honestly can’t see Drury making it.
Sep. 3, 2021 at 5:18 p.m.
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Devils rather have Zacha imo
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Sep. 3, 2021 at 5:23 p.m.
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Horrible proposal for the isles, actually laughable.
Sep. 3, 2021 at 5:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
Devils rather have Zacha imo


1000% been tough sledding but he's evolving.
Sep. 3, 2021 at 5:31 p.m.
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My favourite Part about cap friendly is Red Wings fans overvaluing the role players from their bottom feeder team
Sep. 3, 2021 at 5:36 p.m.
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Devils decline
(a) Fabbri is a rental, (b) Zacha > Fabbri, and (c) bad blood between Fabbri and Hughes
Sep. 3, 2021 at 6:09 p.m.
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Massive decline from nyi. Dekeyser sucks. Take out the picks and the isles might still decline.
Sep. 3, 2021 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
My favourite Part about cap friendly is Red Wings fans overvaluing the role players from their bottom feeder team


That bottom feeding team was only 2 points behind Vancouver last season. Refresh my memory how many Cups does Vancouver have?
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Sep. 3, 2021 at 6:41 p.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
That bottom feeding team was only 2 points behind Vancouver last season. Refresh my memory how many Cups does Vancouver have?


Lol you don’t see Vancouver fans trying to trade away our older role players for picks and good young players. We know we have bad players, we just paid 9th overall to dump a bunch of them. We’re not trading away Myers retained for Hronek or shipping off roussell for a barrel of draft picks
Sep. 3, 2021 at 6:47 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
My favourite Part about cap friendly is Red Wings fans overvaluing the role players from their bottom feeder team


Other than the dekeyser trade, those players could garner those picks to the right team

Oh and Greiss, that one is awful
Sep. 3, 2021 at 6:50 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Lol you don’t see Vancouver fans trying to trade away our older role players for picks and good young players. We know we have bad players, we just paid 9th overall to dump a bunch of them. We’re not trading away Myers retained for Hronek or shipping off roussell for a barrel of draft picks


Yes you do. You must have selective memory issues. I have literally seen hundreds of lopsided Vancouver trades. Just because you're fairly reasonable doesn't mean the rest of your fan base is. I mean it was only like a week ago that your fans stop trading Jake Virtanen to teams for value.
Sep. 3, 2021 at 8:44 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
My favourite Part about cap friendly is Red Wings fans overvaluing the role players from their bottom feeder team


My favorite part of cap friendly is a fan of a team that has 0 cups and can't even sign their 2 best players commenting on a team that will be better then them by next season and started their rebuild 5 years after the Canucks did.
Sep. 4, 2021 at 12:12 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Lol you don’t see Vancouver fans trying to trade away our older role players for picks and good young players. We know we have bad players, we just paid 9th overall to dump a bunch of them. We’re not trading away Myers retained for Hronek or shipping off roussell for a barrel of draft picks


You're kidding right? There's 2 or 3 Red Wing fans that make bad trade proposals on the regular. Most fans don't want Wings players traded at all, and are understanding that the Wings' older role players have little to no value at all. Also, Hronek > Myers (23 year old middle pairing RD with room to grow vs 31 year old more expensive middle pairing RD who will only get worse) and Roussel was a cap dump to Arizona, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to get at.
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Sep. 4, 2021 at 12:17 p.m.
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Quoting: HypotheticalImpossibility
Hronek > Myers (23 year old middle pairing RD with room to grow vs 31 year old more expensive middle pairing RD who will only get worse) and Roussel was a cap dump to Arizona, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to get at.


That’s my whole point. Georgiev is 10 years younger and better than Greiss, similar to Hronek compared to Myers. Roussel had the same value the dekeyser with 2.5 million retained.

This AGM heavily over values it’s older players thinking they are equal to far younger players. I’ve seen many redwings fans do this, but I don’t see Canucks fans doing similar trades.
Sep. 4, 2021 at 12:35 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Lol you don’t see Vancouver fans trying to trade away our older role players for picks and good young players. We know we have bad players, we just paid 9th overall to dump a bunch of them. We’re not trading away Myers retained for Hronek or shipping off roussell for a barrel of draft picks


I didn't say anything about those trades as a matter of fact I think those trades are pretty lop sided. All I did was point out that Vancouver isn't a whole lot better than Detroit. Maybe you should go back and reread my post or get someone to read it to you because you obviously didn't understand it the first time.
Sep. 4, 2021 at 6:24 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
That’s my whole point. Georgiev is 10 years younger and better than Greiss, similar to Hronek compared to Myers. Roussel had the same value the dekeyser with 2.5 million retained.

This AGM heavily over values it’s older players thinking they are equal to far younger players. I’ve seen many redwings fans do this, but I don’t see Canucks fans doing similar trades.


Oh, I see, thanks for clarifying. This particular post overvalues Wings players, sure. I don't think you'll find anyone that will argue against that.
Still not sure where you're getting the "many redwing fans" narrative though. Are you referring to the Mantha/Larkin/Bertuzzi discussions, or something else? Every fanbase has its crazy posters, but Detroit doesn't have that many relative to the rational ones in my opinion.
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Sep. 4, 2021 at 6:40 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
That’s my whole point. Georgiev is 10 years younger and better than Greiss, similar to Hronek compared to Myers. Roussel had the same value the dekeyser with 2.5 million retained.

This AGM heavily over values it’s older players thinking they are equal to far younger players. I’ve seen many redwings fans do this, but I don’t see Canucks fans doing similar trades.

Every fan base has users that over value guys, the Nucks aren’t exempt. Also, how is Geo > Greiss? Please explain because one posted superior numbers while playing with an inferior defense. We can talk about value being different due to age/contract but saying Geo is currently better is a bit disingenuous.
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