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Dvorak to MTL - Will be announced at 5-6 PM

Created by: Poehling
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 4, 2021
Published: Sep. 4, 2021
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MTL
  1. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (CAR)
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    Jesperi Kotkaniemi
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    ARI
    1. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
    2. 2024 2nd round pick (MTL)
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    The 2024 2nd round pick (MTL) is a conditional pick
    (We don’t know the condition on it yet)
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    UFA - 2
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    $750,000$750,000
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    UFA - 1
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    UFA - 4
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    UFA - 3
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    UFA - 4
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    $10,500,000$10,500,000
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    $925,000$925,000
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    UFA - 1
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    $950,000$950,000
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    UFA - 1
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    $7,857,143$7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 5
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    $750,000$750,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
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    $3,400,000$3,400,000
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    Sep. 4, 2021 at 3:52 p.m.
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    Source?
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 3:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    Source?


    Not good enough I’m taking a risk here
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 3:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: Poehling
    Not good enough I’m taking a risk here


    You're saying your source isn't good enough to believe this is true and you're only posting on the off chance it's correct?
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    Sep. 4, 2021 at 3:56 p.m.
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    Probably takes more than a 1st and a conditional pick to get Dvorak. He's been a much inquired about asset already and Montreal has even less leverage now than everyone had when they asked before.
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    Sep. 4, 2021 at 4:04 p.m.
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    that isnt even close to what would ne needed to get Dvorak....The yotes are aggressive this offseason getting hauls in their trades. Montreal is in a bad spot and easily can be exploited by Arizona

    29 other teams could out bid that trade package for him.
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 4:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    You're saying your source isn't good enough to believe this is true and you're only posting on the off chance it's correct?


    Correct 🤣 fun talking about hockey isn’t it
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 4:08 p.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    that isnt even close to what would ne needed to get Dvorak....The yotes are aggressive this offseason getting hauls in their trades. Montreal is in a bad spot and easily can be exploited by Arizona

    29 other teams could out bid that trade package for him.


    29 other Armchair-GM could outbid that, sure. But we don’t know about the actual GMs. We’ll see
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 4:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: Poehling
    29 other Armchair-GM could outbid that, sure. But we don’t know about the actual GMs. We’ll see


    Real gms will outbid them, when they asked a 1st and Newhook from the avs at the start of the offseason, they aren’t going by to take a 1st and a conditional pick now especially from a team that can be exploited like Montreal who left themselves that vulnerable

    Especially a conditional 2024 pick, that holds no value to them rhst far out
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 4:47 p.m.
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    Your deal is bad
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    Here's the source, I'm pretty sure at least.

    According to HFboards this person knew about Perry to the Lightning and that MTL would draft Mailloux. Still not sold on them as a source though
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    Sep. 4, 2021 at 4:49 p.m.
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    You know nothing JS
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    Gotta respect MTL discipline to not give ANY hint of an answer before the deadline.

    7 days in, with all the wild hoard of journalists hunting for information.

    It's now 4h47 eastern time and still nothing!!?

    Carolina went all out on social media. Montreal shut everything down. Impressive.
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    Sep. 4, 2021 at 5:00 p.m.
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    Your source is pathetic, I know who you got the idea from on twitter, c'mon he's not an insider at all
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    Sep. 4, 2021 at 6:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: Tarlam01
    Your source is pathetic, I know who you got the idea from on twitter, c'mon he's not an insider at all


    Never said he was, and I even said I don’t completely trust him, but he got some shots right. So maybe
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 6:21 p.m.
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    You know nothing JS
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    Quoting: Poehling
    Never said he was, and I even said I don’t completely trust him, but he got some shots right. So maybe


    Not happening or else it would had been announced already.

    Now Bergevin has NO LEVERAGE to close a deal.
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 6:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    Real gms will outbid them, when they asked a 1st and Newhook from the avs at the start of the offseason, they aren’t going by to take a 1st and a conditional pick now especially from a team that can be exploited like Montreal who left themselves that vulnerable

    Especially a conditional 2024 pick, that holds no value to them rhst far out


    Sorry pal
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 7:00 p.m.
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    Edited Sep. 4, 2021 at 7:12 p.m.
    Quoting: Poehling
    Sorry pal


    You gave up worse than this deal. A not fully protected 1st and a 2nd.

    Yeah you guys wish you had your deal instead....and now you cant trade either of those picks either if you think you are goign to try to load up for the playoffs. Bergevin once again is just botching things.
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 7:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    You gave up worse than this deal. A not fully protected 1st and a 2nd.

    Yeah you guys wish you had your deal instead....and now you cant trade either of those picks either if you think you are goign to try to load up for the playoffs. Bergevin once again is just botching things.


    Funny how you can’t admit when you’re wrong
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 7:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: Poehling
    Funny how you can’t admit when you’re wrong


    You can’t admit you were wrong either, the 2nd wasn’t conditional and the 1st is the best one available

    So you know you had the wrong trade. Also congrats ripping off that Twitter account who posted the trade and trying to claim it as like your own idea
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 8:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    You can’t admit you were wrong either, the 2nd wasn’t conditional and the 1st is the best one available

    So you know you had the wrong trade. Also congrats ripping off that Twitter account who posted the trade and trying to claim it as like your own idea


    Never claimed anything, and I shouldn’t mention the 2nd was conditional because we didn’t know which pick had the condition on
    But what probably’s gonna happen is MTL will get a top 10 pick so ARI will get CAR (hopefully late 1st) If I got that right
    If both picks are after 20, yeah they get the best one but it still worth it for Dvorak
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 8:08 p.m.
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    Never claimed anything, and I shouldn’t mention the 2nd was conditional because we didn’t know which pick had the condition on
    But what probably’s gonna happen is MTL will get a top 10 pick so ARI will get CAR (hopefully late 1st) If I got that right
    If both picks are after 20, yeah they get the best one but it still worth it for Dvorak


    So you can’t admit it you were wrong despite commenting afterwards with a puffed out chest you nailed it? Close but what he was traded for with the better pick and still a chance at wright, yeah this is a bad move for a mediocre 2c

    Well you didn’t, you ripped off a Twitter rumour and got it wrong
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 8:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    So you can’t admit it you were wrong despite commenting afterwards with a puffed out chest you nailed it?

    Well you didn’t, you ripped off a Twitter rumour and got it wrong


    I just admitted I was wrong on the condition, what you mean I can’t admit
    You were saying a couple hours ago a 1st and 2024 pick is nothing, 30 teams beats that lol yeah yeah Drouin for Girard
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 8:16 p.m.
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    I just admitted I was wrong on the condition, what you mean I can’t admit
    You were saying a couple hours ago a 1st and 2024 pick is nothing, 30 teams beats that lol yeah yeah Drouin for Girard


    I said a conditional 2024 doesnt do anything for them...well its not a conditional pick, plus its not fully lottery protected and they get Montreals top pick, so it is a lot better than you proposed. SO you know what I said about your trade is not what the actual trade was.

    Montreal giving up a chance for Wright. as slim as it is, or if it moves to next year for Bernard.....in trading for Dvorak, talk about a train wreck of asset management.
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 8:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    I said a conditional 2024 doesnt do anything for them...well its not a conditional pick, plus its not fully lottery protected and they get Montreals top pick, so it is a lot better than you proposed. SO you know what I said about your trade is not what the actual trade was.

    Montreal giving up a chance for Wright or if it moves to next year for Bernard.....in trading for Dvorak, talk about a train wreck of asset management.


    I think you don’t (or I am mistaken here) understand the condition on the pick. If it’s a top 10 pick, they get the other pick the same year. So it can’t be a 2023 1st going to ARI
    The best scenario for the Canes is MTL win the lottery #1 OA and CAR wins the lottery #2 OA so they get the #2 OA … and
    unicorns exists if this happens
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 8:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: Poehling
    I think you don’t (or I am mistaken here) understand the condition on the pick. If it’s a top 10 pick, they get the other pick the same year. So it can’t be a 2023 1st going to ARI
    The best scenario for the Canes is MTL win the lottery #1 OA and CAR wins the lottery #2 OA so they get the #2 OA … and
    unicorns exists if this happens


    I understand what the conditional are....as I said its NOT FULLY protected as their is a chance still. And you can easily give them a top 10 pick instead of giving them wright...in a deep draft, easily can see Carolina and montreal both being top 10 picks, especially montreal with no weber and a broken price....who hasn't been good in the regular season in 3 years

    Keep on trying to move the goal posts....you ripped off a trade, got it wrong, tried to collect receipts, were wrong again, and now trying to justify the trade as actually good. And in an attempt of being frustrated you think saying Girard for Drouin is going to get a reaction,

    Nah im enjoying you keeping on trying to dig yourself out of this, keep on going
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 8:29 p.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    I understand what the conditional are....as I said its NOT FULLY protected as their is a chance still.

    Keep on trying to move the goal posts....you ripped off a trade, got it wrong, tried to collect receipts, were wrong again, and now trying to justify the trade as actually good. And in an attempt of being frustrated you think saying Girard for Drouin is going to get a reaction,

    Nah im enjoying you keeping on trying to dig yourself out of this, keep on going


    Someone on Twitter said that. Not fully trustable so I don’t want too say who in case this is wrong. So I’m basically protecting the guy. You come over saying this offer is **** for Arizona. Finally the guy was right, this is the deal, and you are mad that the trade is not EXACTLY like I said, so you are trying to turn this against me because you are stubborn. After you are trying to say I am the one who pull this trade off like if I was a source or anything lol I think you are frustrated and the Drouin vs Girard replace a middle finger because it’s brutal for COL. Anyway, wouldn’t have cost Newhook and a 1st for sure
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 8:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: Poehling
    Someone on Twitter said that. Not fully trustable so I don’t want too say who in case this is wrong. So I’m basically protecting the guy. You come over saying this offer is **** for Arizona. Finally the guy was right, this is the deal, and you are mad that the trade is not EXACTLY like I said, so you are trying to turn this against me because you are stubborn. After you are trying to say I am the one who pull this trade off like if I was a source or anything lol I think you are frustrated and the Drouin vs Girard replace a middle finger because it’s brutal for COL. Anyway, wouldn’t have cost Newhook and a 1st for sure


    Quoting: Poehling
    Someone on Twitter said that. Not fully trustable so I don’t want too say who in case this is wrong. So I’m basically protecting the guy. You come over saying this offer is **** for Arizona. Finally the guy was right, this is the deal, and you are mad that the trade is not EXACTLY like I said, so you are trying to turn this against me because you are stubborn. After you are trying to say I am the one who pull this trade off like if I was a source or anything lol I think you are frustrated and the Drouin vs Girard replace a middle finger because it’s brutal for COL. Anyway, wouldn’t have cost Newhook and a 1st for sure


    Protecting a random guy on Twitter hahaha, or a well known Montreal account posted it the other day and it’s been circulating on hockey Twitter for t he last 24 hours

    Oh man are you ever full of crap, keep on digging
     
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