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Logan Brown

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Team: 2021-22 Nashville Predators
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 7, 2021
Published: Sep. 7, 2021
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  1. Brown, Logan [RFA Rights]
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Two players not getting a fair shot within their current organization that could use a change of scenery
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Sep. 7, 2021 at 2:27 p.m.
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Sep. 7, 2021 at 2:47 p.m.
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This trade isn't bad. I'd sooner do something like this or Morgan Frost out of Philly then trade him for a pick.

It really is too bad it's come to this, the kid has all the talent in the world but unlucky with injuries.
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Sep. 7, 2021 at 3:18 p.m.
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GMPD wants to trade Logan Brown, but he also said he's not giving him away. Brown is closer to Glass and Patrick than he is to Pitlick. Ottawa passes

The most realistic offer I've seen so far was Brown for Liljegren, not that I'd do it, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. The reason Ottawa hasn't traded Brown yet is because they know how good he is, and they don't want the trade to come back and bite them.
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Sep. 7, 2021 at 4:22 p.m.
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Quoting: sensibleguy
GMPD wants to trade Logan Brown, but he also said he's not giving him away. Brown is closer to Glass and Patrick than he is to Pitlick. Ottawa passes

The most realistic offer I've seen so far was Brown for Liljegren, not that I'd do it, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. The reason Ottawa hasn't traded Brown yet is because they know how good he is, and they don't want the trade to come back and bite them.


Right now its a contract issue
You risk losing him for nothing on Waivers
Unless you think he'll start this year you're risking losing him for nothing

MTL risked that with different players losing them from Andrigetto and Condon to Scherbak and Juulsen
We've lost a lot of players over the years because they were on the fringe
It only really hurt us twice long long term and 3/4 if you include Andrigetto's hot start the first 2 years with COL then nothing

My Point is you lost ability to command very much for him when you sent him to the AHL and gave away his number (twice if memory serves )
Right now this is an exchange of Fringe players which sometimes works out but more often then not goes unnoticed
Sep. 7, 2021 at 5:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy739
Right now its a contract issue
You risk losing him for nothing on Waivers
Unless you think he'll start this year you're risking losing him for nothing

MTL risked that with different players losing them from Andrigetto and Condon to Scherbak and Juulsen
We've lost a lot of players over the years because they were on the fringe
It only really hurt us twice long long term and 3/4 if you include Andrigetto's hot start the first 2 years with COL then nothing

My Point is you lost ability to command very much for him when you sent him to the AHL and gave away his number (twice if memory serves )
Right now this is an exchange of Fringe players which sometimes works out but more often then not goes unnoticed


would think that if he signs (he wont) they wont just put him on waivers for nothing and lose him instantly. My bet is they just hold his rights and he plays elsewhere till he gets a trade, kids good just is made of glass
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Sep. 7, 2021 at 10:01 p.m.
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Right now its a contract issue
You risk losing him for nothing on Waivers
Unless you think he'll start this year you're risking losing him for nothing

MTL risked that with different players losing them from Andrigetto and Condon to Scherbak and Juulsen
We've lost a lot of players over the years because they were on the fringe
It only really hurt us twice long long term and 3/4 if you include Andrigetto's hot start the first 2 years with COL then nothing

My Point is you lost ability to command very much for him when you sent him to the AHL and gave away his number (twice if memory serves )
Right now this is an exchange of Fringe players which sometimes works out but more often then not goes unnoticed


Right now Logan Brown is on the AHL roster, and if he’s not invited to main camp, he stays there, and doesn’t need to be waived.
Sep. 7, 2021 at 10:33 p.m.
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Right now Logan Brown is on the AHL roster, and if he’s not invited to main camp, he stays there, and doesn’t need to be waived.

That's one way to negate all value in a prospect
The term "cutting off your nose to spite your face " comes to mind lol

Even we wouldnt do that to Scherbak and we had all but declared him a bust
Just saying it sounds good talking big to win an argument but its shooting yourself in the foot on a dare for no reward
Sep. 7, 2021 at 10:35 p.m.
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would think that if he signs (he wont) they wont just put him on waivers for nothing and lose him instantly. My bet is they just hold his rights and he plays elsewhere till he gets a trade, kids good just is made of glass


i think come camp if lets say neither Poehling or Brown have done anything of value and are going to be waived anyways
You'll see the teams trade prospects

Not saying it will be MTL just a similiar situation
Kieffer Bellows is another example of a player in the same position
Sep. 7, 2021 at 10:53 p.m.
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Right now Logan Brown is on the AHL roster, and if he’s not invited to main camp, he stays there, and doesn’t need to be waived.


Where did you get that idea?
All waiver eligible players must be placed on waivers and clear to be eligible for the AHL.

Now if he's not under contract, he doesn't have to be placed on waivers until he is, but you can't leave/start players in the AHL.
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:17 a.m.
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That's one way to negate all value in a prospect
The term "cutting off your nose to spite your face " comes to mind lol

Even we wouldnt do that to Scherbak and we had all but declared him a bust
Just saying it sounds good talking big to win an argument but its shooting yourself in the foot on a dare for no reward


You keep leaning towards the negative. Why would the Senators invite Logan Brown to camp? That would necessitate putting him on waivers and losing him.


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Where did you get that idea?
All waiver eligible players must be placed on waivers and clear to be eligible for the AHL.

Now if he's not under contract, he doesn't have to be placed on waivers until he is, but you can't leave/start players in the AHL.


NHL teams usually invite everyone under contract to the main camp, so they all get placed on waivers at some point unless they make the team. Not being invited to camp means the player wasn't recalled, which means he doesn't need waivers. Unless you can find specific CBA language that states otherwise, then that would be the rule that would be followed.

If a team has decided to trade a player, then they would take the same approach as pulling him from games to make sure he didn't get injured. Every other GM would understand why he wasn't invited to camp, and his value would not be affected whatsoever.
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:56 a.m.
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You keep leaning towards the negative. Why would the Senators invite Logan Brown to camp? That would necessitate putting him on waivers and losing him.




NHL teams usually invite everyone under contract to the main camp, so they all get placed on waivers at some point unless they make the team. Not being invited to camp means the player wasn't recalled, which means he doesn't need waivers. Unless you can find specific CBA language that states otherwise, then that would be the rule that would be followed.

If a team has decided to trade a player, then they would take the same approach as pulling him from games to make sure he didn't get injured. Every other GM would understand why he wasn't invited to camp, and his value would not be affected whatsoever.


Article 13.2
The playing season waiver period begins 12 days prior to the start of the regular season and ends on the day following the last day of a club's playing season.
A player may be loaned upon fulfilling the following conditions:
a) Regular waivers were requested and cleared during the playing season waiver period
b) (The games/days requirement that resets waiver eligibility)

There's no such thing as "recalling" a player in the off-season. Every player is under contract with the NHL team. They are only loaned to other leagues. In order to be loaned for the season, they must clear waivers after they open for the new playing season.

Logan Brown is not currently under contract, so he's in limbo. Like I said, when he does sign, he would have to be placed on waivers in order to be loaned to the AHL (sent down).
Sep. 8, 2021 at 3:56 a.m.
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Quoting: ricochetii
Article 13.2
The playing season waiver period begins 12 days prior to the start of the regular season and ends on the day following the last day of a club's playing season.
A player may be loaned upon fulfilling the following conditions:
a) Regular waivers were requested and cleared during the playing season waiver period
b) (The games/days requirement that resets waiver eligibility)

There's no such thing as "recalling" a player in the off-season. Every player is under contract with the NHL team. They are only loaned to other leagues. In order to be loaned for the season, they must clear waivers after they open for the new playing season.

Logan Brown is not currently under contract, so he's in limbo. Like I said, when he does sign, he would have to be placed on waivers in order to be loaned to the AHL (sent down).


Article 13 is;

"WAIVERS AND LOANS OF PLAYERS TO MINOR LEAGUE CLUBS"

Which means AHL and ECHL

Edit: I should add, the apparent plan for Logan Brown is to send him to Europe (Sweden)

2nd edit: I did switch up this conversation a bit, from specifically minors waivers to Browns intended destination if he’s not traded immediately. I felt it was okay because this is about him specifically. I had forgotten about the new season beginning a new waiver season as well, so thanks for the reminder on that.
Sep. 8, 2021 at 6:00 a.m.
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Article 13 is;

"WAIVERS AND LOANS OF PLAYERS TO MINOR LEAGUE CLUBS"

Which means AHL and ECHL

Edit: I should add, the apparent plan for Logan Brown is to send him to Europe (Sweden)

2nd edit: I did switch up this conversation a bit, from specifically minors waivers to Browns intended destination if he’s not traded immediately. I felt it was okay because this is about him specifically. I had forgotten about the new season beginning a new waiver season as well, so thanks for the reminder on that.


"Right now Logan Brown is on the AHL roster, and if he’s not invited to main camp, he stays there, and doesn’t need to be waived."
"Not being invited to camp means the player wasn't recalled, which means he doesn't need waivers."

That's what I was addressing. It doesn't matter where they are sending him. If he has a contract, he must clear waivers. Being invited to training camp has nothing to do with it.
Sep. 8, 2021 at 6:41 a.m.
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Quoting: ricochetii
"Right now Logan Brown is on the AHL roster, and if he’s not invited to main camp, he stays there, and doesn’t need to be waived."
"Not being invited to camp means the player wasn't recalled, which means he doesn't need waivers."

That's what I was addressing. It doesn't matter where they are sending him. If he has a contract, he must clear waivers. Being invited to training camp has nothing to do with it.


I know, hence my second edit. It's a conceded point, do you need me to concede it again?

As for Logan Brown, as I stated in my first edit, he's most likely headed to Sweden if he's not traded, which doesn't require waivers, much the same way as Mikael Wikstrand. It's not a loan either, as far as I know, since Brown hasn't signed his QO, he's free to go anywhere he wants outside of North America. Ottawa held Wikstrands rights until he was 27, as they will with Logan Brown if he's not traded.
Sep. 8, 2021 at 10:57 a.m.
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I know, hence my second edit. It's a conceded point, do you need me to concede it again?

As for Logan Brown, as I stated in my first edit, he's most likely headed to Sweden if he's not traded, which doesn't require waivers, much the same way as Mikael Wikstrand. It's not a loan either, as far as I know, since Brown hasn't signed his QO, he's free to go anywhere he wants outside of North America. Ottawa held Wikstrands rights until he was 27, as they will with Logan Brown if he's not traded.


Honestly your last post was a bit of a jumble so I wasn't sure you understood. I wanted to make sure it was clear, that's all.
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