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Dermott to Isles

Created by: LGuy54
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 8, 2021
Published: Sep. 8, 2021
Team: 2021-22 New York Islanders
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Parise, Zach1$777,777
Trades
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  1. Dermott, Travis
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  1. 2022 6th round pick (NYI)
*Condition: Pick upgrades to a 2022 5th if Travis Dermott is top 4 in TOI amongst Isles defenseman during the 2021-22 season
Buyouts
  • Rick DiPietro: $0
Buried
  • Thomas Hickey: $1,375,000 ($2,500,000)
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$77,624,465$1,365,854$2,107,500$3,875,535
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Lee, Anders
$7,000,000
LW, C
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Barzal, Mathew
$7,000,000
C
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Palmieri, Kyle
$5,000,000
RW, LW
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Beauvillier, Anthony
$4,150,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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Nelson, Brock
$6,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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Bailey, Josh
$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Parise, Zach
$777,777
LW
UFA - 1
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Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
$5,000,000
C
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Wahlstrom, Oliver
$894,167
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Martin, Matt
$1,500,000
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Cizikas, Casey
$2,500,000
C
UFA - 6
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Clutterbuck, Cal
$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Pelech, Adam
$5,750,000
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Pulock, Ryan
$5,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Varlamov, Semyon
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Dermott, Travis
$1,500,000
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Dobson, Noah
$894,167
RD
RFA - 1
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Sorokin, Ilya
$4,000,000
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Greene, Andy
$750,000
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UFA - 1
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Mayfield, Scott
$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Pánik, Richard
$1,375,000
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Boychuk, Johnny
$6,000,000
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Salo, Robin
$842,500
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 7:34 a.m.
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Value's pretty reasonable but I would guess this kind of deal only happens if the leafs make some sort of deal themselves and need the cap space
Sep. 8, 2021 at 7:36 a.m.
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Quoting: Yari
Value's pretty reasonable but I would guess this kind of deal only happens if the leafs make some sort of deal themselves and need the cap space


This is not reasonable whatsoever.
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 7:41 a.m.
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This is not reasonable whatsoever.


I mean I love Dermott and I do think he has value in general but considering the circumstances I don't see the leafs getting much more then that if they need to trade him
Sep. 8, 2021 at 7:45 a.m.
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Quoting: Yari
Value's pretty reasonable but I would guess this kind of deal only happens if the leafs make some sort of deal themselves and need the cap space


They are currently $1M over the cap, Dermott has no value to us and trading him would make us cap compliant, while isles get a defenseman that could maybe play top-4 in a sheltered role, but is most like just a 3rd pair guy
Sep. 8, 2021 at 7:46 a.m.
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I mean I love Dermott and I do think he has value in general but considering the circumstances I don't see the leafs getting much more then that if they need to trade him


82 game season means there's likely some injuries to Rielly, Brodie, Muzzin, Holl or Sandin so keeping Dermott as our 6th or 7th guy has more value than a 6th round pick. Otherwise you end up with a mid-season Marincin signing.
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 7:48 a.m.
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They are currently $1M over the cap, Dermott has no value to us and trading him would make us cap compliant, while isles get a defenseman that could maybe play top-4 in a sheltered role, but is most like just a 3rd pair guy


Were only 1mill over the cap because of roster moves, when some guys get sent down we wont be, not exactly a great position to be in but Dermott doesn't NEED to be trade yet, just looks like the odd man out if someone's gotta go
Sep. 8, 2021 at 7:49 a.m.
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82 game season means there's likely some injuries to Rielly, Brodie, Muzzin, Holl or Sandin so keeping Dermott as our 6th or 7th guy has more value than a 6th round pick. Otherwise you end up with a mid-season Marincin signing.


Paying a 7th defenseman 1.5 while Liljegren, Biega, Dahlstrom and Rubins can all do the same for way cheaper?
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 7:50 a.m.
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82 game season means there's likely some injuries to Rielly, Brodie, Muzzin, Holl or Sandin so keeping Dermott as our 6th or 7th guy has more value than a 6th round pick. Otherwise you end up with a mid-season Marincin signing.


^ Yeah thats pretty much how I see it, moving Dermott for a pick without having another deal in place is pointless
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 7:51 a.m.
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They are currently $1M over the cap, Dermott has no value to us and trading him would make us cap compliant, while isles get a defenseman that could maybe play top-4 in a sheltered role, but is most like just a 3rd pair guy


I guess the only thing that I'm looking at here, in terms of the Isles roster, is that they've already got Thomas Hickey, and I do think that they give Salo a look this year as well.

Not that giving up a 6th for Dermott is wrong, I'd just guess that the Isles are done making moves this offseason.
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 7:52 a.m.
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I guess the only thing that I'm looking at here, in terms of the Isles roster, is that they've already got Thomas Hickey, and I do think that they give Salo a look this year as well.

Not that giving up a 6th for Dermott is wrong, I'd just guess that the Isles are done making moves this offseason.


I see where you come from
Sep. 8, 2021 at 8:26 a.m.
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Paying a 7th defenseman 1.5 while Liljegren, Biega, Dahlstrom and Rubins can all do the same for way cheaper?


Liljegren is the only one in that list who should be on the NHL roster next season.
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 8:43 a.m.
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I see where you come from


I just think that Hickey probably deserves a shot. I like him. That being said, I could be way off, because sweet Lou loves him some Komarov, so I'd be surprised to see him buried.
Sep. 8, 2021 at 8:43 a.m.
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Paying a 7th defenseman 1.5 while Liljegren, Biega, Dahlstrom and Rubins can all do the same for way cheaper?


All those guys (aside from Liljegren) are Dermott's age or older.

If they could be doing the same as Dermott but cheaper, they'd be NHL regulars by now.

Right??
Sep. 8, 2021 at 8:50 a.m.
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I mean I love Dermott and I do think he has value in general but considering the circumstances I don't see the leafs getting much more then that if they need to trade him


We don't NEED to trade him
Sep. 8, 2021 at 8:51 a.m.
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If so many people are eager for Dermott to go to the Isles than it’s only fair that Lou overpays for this deal since Isles fans want Dermott more than Leafs fans want to move him
Sep. 8, 2021 at 9:01 a.m.
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Quoting: G0_Leafs_GO
We don't NEED to trade him


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Sep. 8, 2021 at 9:42 a.m.
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Leafs have way more NHL depth forwards, than NHL depth dmen.

I really don't see them moving Dermott.
Sep. 8, 2021 at 9:43 a.m.
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Why in the world would the leafs do that?
Sep. 8, 2021 at 9:46 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Why in the world would the leafs do that?


Why would they not?
Sep. 8, 2021 at 9:53 a.m.
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Why would they not?


Because it's awful value for a player they dont need to move?
Sep. 8, 2021 at 9:55 a.m.
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Because it's awful value for a player they dont need to move?


It's not awful value
Sep. 8, 2021 at 10:01 a.m.
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It's not awful value


Yea, it's awful value, really awful value
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Yari
Were only 1mill over the cap because of roster moves, when some guys get sent down we wont be, not exactly a great position to be in but Dermott doesn't NEED to be trade yet, just looks like the odd man out if someone's gotta go


I tried waiving players they still won't be under the cap unless they go with a 21 man roster. Only option is to put Kase on LTIR and that might not even be possible given the mixed reports
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:54 p.m.
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If so many people are eager for Dermott to go to the Isles than it’s only fair that Lou overpays for this deal since Isles fans want Dermott more than Leafs fans want to move him


No its just that Isles fans see that Leafs are over the cap and want to exploit their cap
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 1:01 p.m.
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No its just that Isles fans see that Leafs are over the cap and want to exploit their cap


If we wanted to trade Dermott, the Isles aren't the only game in town. We're not desperate to move him and he's not the only piece that we can move (e.g. Engvall, Kerfoot, Mikheyev etc.)
 
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