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Evander Kane Likely Not Guilty - Movement Required

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Team: 2021-22 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 8, 2021
Published: Sep. 8, 2021
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    My bet is a trade to a contender in a win now mode; choosing Carolina.
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      Who do you think takes Kane?
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      *Conditional on Kane appearing in Carolina for the first game of the 2023 Season*


      *If Kane is above a 0.70ppg Sharks receive more picks ?
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        If Kane is innocent maybe a single first or 2nd pick? With conditions?
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        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:06 p.m.
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        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:07 p.m.
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        Canes or Habs. Fits their MO the best lol
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        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:08 p.m.
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        Not Carolina. Don’t think they’ll bring in any other locker room or off ice troubled players. You can handle 1 (TDA), once you get more than 1 it can easily become a problem.
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        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:09 p.m.
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        Carolina with both Deangelo and Kane lmao
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        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:11 p.m.
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        Quoting: justaBoss
        Canes or Habs. Fits their MO the best lol


        Lol I mean true

        Quoting: vikhodush
        Not Carolina. Don’t think they’ll bring in any other locker room or off ice troubled players. You can handle 1 (TDA), once you get more than 1 it can easily become a problem.


        I mean realistically I have no idea who takes Kane but Carolina is showing they value winning and marketing. And while Kane isn’t exactly Crosby type marketable, he does create buzz through his talent/ play and with his HDA. And he helps winning.

        Though it’s really a spin the wheel situation for who will bite on Kane
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:12 p.m.
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        Lol I mean true



        I mean realistically I have no idea who takes Kane but Carolina is showing they value winning and marketing. And while Kane isn’t exactly Crosby marketable, he does create buzz through his talent/ play. And he helps winning.

        Though it’s really a spin the wheel situation for who will bite on Kane


        Oh I don’t think they wouldn’t do it in a vacuum. I just think that RBA thinks he can handle tda but having two potential headaches feeding off each other (or fighting each other lol) would be worth way less than the points they might put up on the ice for a short time
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:22 p.m.
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        Oh, **** me...

        Whelp, if that's the case then the Sharks will need to A. bury him in the AHL or B. make a trade. The above trade to Carolina makes sense from our end, but will they be willing to add more locker room cancer after bringing on Tony DeAngelo? I dunno how Canes fans would feel about that, so let me know what you think

        Another alternative that comes to my mind is the Coyotes. They're actively tanking and they have cap space to deal with his contract. Question is, with lots of impressionable youngsters getting blooded into the NHL after this season, will they put up with Kane's... misadventures?
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:27 p.m.
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        I doubt the the rest of the league does them a favor, they'd much rather keep the sharks in purgatory
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:28 p.m.
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        Quoting: areax91
        Oh, **** me...

        Whelp, if that's the case then the Sharks will need to A. bury him in the AHL or B. make a trade. The above trade to Carolina makes sense from our end, but will they be willing to add more locker room cancer after bringing on Tony DeAngelo? I dunno how Canes fans would feel about that, so let me know what you think

        Another alternative that comes to my mind is the Coyotes. They're actively tanking and they have cap space to deal with his contract. Question is, with lots of impressionable youngsters getting blooded into the NHL after this season, will they put up with Kane's... misadventures?

        It’s only makes sense from a Carolina objective perspective regarding winning:

        Svech - Aho - Turbo
        Kane - KK - Necas
        Nino/Trocheck - Staal - Fast
        Etc - etc - etc
        They’d need to move money like Trocheck or Nino both expiring UFAs it would require movement for them but it makes them really scary and deep especially for a 1 year run before Nino/ Tro expire.


        As for Arizona I do see a fit, even more so because they just moved out of the Pacific. But as you said it depends on what their projection is for the culture and if they see any light in Kane
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:29 p.m.
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        The only way I see Carolina taking a chance with Kane would be if he is bought out and the Canes sign him cheap on a try me deal. You know, the deal that ADA is currently on. But if the Sharks end up trading Kane, they will likely have to retain half his salary and pay to dump him. It has gotten so bad in SJ that the rest of the TEAM wants him gone. You can’t tell me that no one is going to exploit that situation. SJ will most likely end up losing more than they gain in whatever situation comes up.
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:30 p.m.
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        Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
        I doubt the the rest of the league does them a favor, they'd much rather keep the sharks in purgatory

        Must be a GM in the board meetings if you doubt it.

        Realistically yeah no player or Kane calibre and health is on the market, if he isn’t terminated he will be traded I doubt teams won’t bite on a valuable top 6 winger worth his cap with guys like ADA finding jobs and Mailloux being drafted. Much worse than an addiction/ teammate issue.
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:32 p.m.
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        The only way I see Carolina taking a chance with Kane would be if he is bought out and the Canes sign him cheap on a try me deal. You know, the deal that ADA is currently on. But if the Sharks end up trading Kane, they will likely have to retain half his salary and pay to dump him. It has gotten so bad in SJ that the rest of the TEAM wants him gone. You can’t tell me that no one is going to exploit that situation. SJ will most likely end up losing more than they gain in whatever situation comes up.


        Kane being had for 3rd or mid pick attached with an incentive would happen before 3.5 m retained. No reason to retain a guy who performs his 7m cap hit, regardless of the situation you’d just burn bridges as a GM if you want Kane but ask for incentives and 3.5m.

        The guy literally is better than most players in the entire league.
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:32 p.m.
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        Edited Sep. 9, 2021 at 10:55 a.m.
        Quoting: yikes
        Must be a GM in the board meetings if you doubt it.

        Realistically yeah no player or Kane calibre and health is on the market, if he isn’t terminated he will be traded I doubt teams won’t bite on a valuable top 6 winger worth his cap with guys like ADA finding jobs and Mailloux being drafted. Much worse than an addiction/ teammate issue.


        Regardless of him being worth his deal, teams still have to be shrewd with their cap
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        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.
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        Quoting: areax91
        Oh, **** me...

        Whelp, if that's the case then the Sharks will need to A. bury him in the AHL or B. make a trade. The above trade to Carolina makes sense from our end, but will they be willing to add more locker room cancer after bringing on Tony DeAngelo? I dunno how Canes fans would feel about that, so let me know what you think

        Another alternative that comes to my mind is the Coyotes. They're actively tanking and they have cap space to deal with his contract. Question is, with lots of impressionable youngsters getting blooded into the NHL after this season, will they put up with Kane's... misadventures?

        The last thing the canes need is 2 locker room cancers. ADA is bad enough, but mixing him with Kane will tear this franchise apart. Maybe if he is lucky, the KHL might be willing to take him. I mean they took an alleged rapist in Virtanen. Mind you, it would probably be Spartak, but who knows?
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:34 p.m.
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        Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
        Regardless of him beung worth his deal, teams still have to be shrewd with their cap


        It’s not like anyones suggesting Tampa or Colorado take the deal. But their are plenty of teams who both can fit him with a win now mentality and teams who quite literally could use it to hit the cap floor and get 30+ Goals
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:36 p.m.
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        It’s not like anyones suggesting Tampa or Colorado take the deal. But their are plenty of teams who both can fit him with a win now mentality and teams who quite literally could use it to hit the cap floor and get 30+ Goals


        Not many teams left going for it with cap space for enough years
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:37 p.m.
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        Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
        Regardless of him beung worth his deal, teams still have to be shrewd with their cap


        Yeah, not very many can swallow the whole $7M x 4 without blinking. I think SJ takes $3-4M in cap back rather than retain though.
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        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:38 p.m.
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        Yeah, not very many can swallow the whole $7M x 4 without blinking. I think SJ takes $3-4M in cap back rather than retain though.


        SJS could eat a full 6-8m, if it means moving Kane and taking on a cap dump for 1-2 years there’s no reason why the team shouldn’t do it to move Kane
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        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:39 p.m.
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        Quoting: CD282
        Yeah, not very many can swallow the whole $7M x 4 without blinking. I think SJ takes $3-4M in cap back rather than retain though.


        For sure, maybe Ottawa?
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:41 p.m.
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        I'd like to see him in Edmonton, TBH, but the cap and term are a problem for the Oilers since they spent all their money already.
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:46 p.m.
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        I highly doubt he gets moved.
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        Sep. 8, 2021 at 4:47 p.m.
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        Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
        For sure, maybe Ottawa?


        this one honestly makes the most sense if kane is able to play until the end of that contract
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 5:22 p.m.
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        Quoting: SnakeDelilah
        this one honestly makes the most sense if kane is able to play until the end of that contract


        If our experience is anything to go by, he'd actually be alright for the first 2-3 seasons. It's the seasons thereafter when stuff hits the fan.
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 5:26 p.m.
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        I find the condition pretty funny, imagine they just scratch him for the first game of the season and save themselves from losing a second-round pick.
        Sep. 8, 2021 at 5:30 p.m.
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        Quoting: areax91
        If our experience is anything to go by, he'd actually be alright for the first 2-3 seasons. It's the seasons thereafter when stuff hits the fan.


        that's ok he's under contract for four years so if he becomes a cancer again you can trade that contract for another haul (if he's still playing)
         
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