what is Hughes value

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Created by: kingkanuck

Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 9, 2021

Published: Sep. 9, 2021

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These are, arguably, the top 5 Dmen in the NHL-
1 Hedman $7.785MM 816 GP
2 Krug $6.500MM 574 GP
3 Josi $9.059MM 680GP
4 Hamilton $9.000MM 607GP
5 Pietrangelo $8.000MM 799GP
Quinn Hughes 129GP
It has been speculated that Hughes will get paid more than $8.000MM/year.
Is he worth more than Hedman and Pietrangelo?
I'd say he is worth closer to what Krug is being paid and perhaps a little less.

I'm paying Pettersson the same as Ovechkin..$9.500MM

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Hughes, Quinn		6	$6,000,000
Pettersson, Elias		8	$9,500,000

Buyouts

Braden Holtby: $500,000
Jake Virtanen: $50,000

Recapture Fees

Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$79,135,659	$648,780	$2,550,000	$2,364,341

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Miller, J.T. $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Pettersson, Elias $9,500,000$9,500,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Höglander, Nils $891,667$891,667 ($200,000$200K) LW, RW RFA - 2
Garland, Conor $4,950,000$4,950,000 RW, LW UFA - 5	Horvat, Bo $4,125,000$4,125,000 C UFA - 2	Boeser, Brock $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW UFA - 1
Pearson, Tanner $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW NTC UFA - 3	Dickinson, Jason $2,650,000$2,650,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 3
Motte, Tyler $1,225,000$1,225,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Sutter, Brandon $1,125,000$1,125,000 RW, C UFA - 1	Highmore, Matthew $725,000$725,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Poolman, Tucker $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 4	Demko, Thatcher $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 5
Hughes, Quinn $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD UFA - 6	Hamonic, Travis $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Halák, Jaroslav $1,500,000$1,500,000 ($1,500,000$2M) G NMC UFA - 1
Juolevi, Olli $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD NTC UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Dowling, Justin $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2		Ferland, Micheal $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2
Schenn, Luke $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 2
Hunt, Brad $800,000$800,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Sep. 9, 2021 at 1:43 p.m.

Nhl_oilers

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I’m guessing he will get 8+M on a 8 year deal, and Pettersson will get a bridge. For a second there I thought we were talking about trade value haha. Also, Krug isn’t a top 5 defence man in the NHL in my opinion. There are so many defence men that are better.

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Sep. 9, 2021 at 1:43 p.m.

A_K

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Comps work better if you use guys that are around the same age and contracts that buy up the same number of UFA years. Those deals you're referencing are a whole different animal, FA signings/extensions that are entirely UFA years for proven stars. I haven't done the research but top of my head I'd say Quinn is looking at the Werenski bridge (3 yr x 5m) or the Heiskanen long-term (8 yrs x 8.45m), give or take.

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Sep. 9, 2021 at 1:44 p.m.

TheDuminator

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don't compare Hugues with these old D... go with Heiskenen, Makar type of deal... he should go less longer so little cheaper but around this... 4y x 7m

Sep. 9, 2021 at 1:48 p.m.

CMcAvoy73

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That might be the worst top 5 d men list I’ve ever seen. Only Hedman belongs.

Hughes should get 3x4.5

Sep. 9, 2021 at 1:49 p.m.

vikhodush

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I don’t think those comps make sense. Most of those guys signed those deals in their prime. Krug isn’t a good comp imo, he’s nowhere near top 5.

Better comps would be guys like Makar Heiskanen Werenski. Fox will then use those 3 and Hughes next year as his comps.

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Sep. 9, 2021 at 1:52 p.m.

mk458

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Don't use way older players as contract comparisons. Makar, Heiskanen, and, Werenski, and Provorov are the best comparisons for long term deals. McAvoy and Sergachev are good comparisons for bridge deals.

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