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Making a wild guess on Leafs and Bruins rumors

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Team: 2021-22 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 10, 2021
Published: Sep. 10, 2021
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Not saying its happening but makes more sense than the stand alone rumors. And would not be full trade.
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  1. Subban, P.K. ($4,500,000 retained)
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Leafs have been rumored to Subban for last few days. Recently there have been some rumors to Subban replacing Morgan Rielly, who could be moved.

(I am guessing there would be other pieces to this, maybe from Boston)
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  1. Rielly, Morgan
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Bruins have also been linked to a possible Devils trade and the return for NJ has been said to be Debrusk.

(Again there would likely be other pieces to all this)
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Sep. 10, 2021 at 11:43 a.m.
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both of these are a joke
Sep. 10, 2021 at 11:47 a.m.
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Dubas as good as said the Subban rumor is bullsh*t.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 11:54 a.m.
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Quoting: vr1995
both of these are a joke


Maybe read what I said first.
These are not two separate deals.
And there would likely be other pieces involved.

Subban for Rielly rumor makes no sense.
Subban for Debrusk rumor also makes no sense.
But combined, there is a sliver of plausibility.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 11:56 a.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Dubas as good as said the Subban rumor is bullsh*t.


He said he is not talking about anyone under contract with another team, no? I did not listen to the podcast.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 11:56 a.m.
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The Rielly trade makes absolutely zero sense. Trade for a worse pending UFA then the one you already have? Unless it's a significant player or draft pick accompanying him, there's just no reason.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 12:01 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
He said he is not talking about anyone under contract with another team, no? I did not listen to the podcast.


Basically said they haven't had any discussions about anyone that's only got a year left on their deal. That's pretty standard for Dubas. He's shown a disinclination to deal for rentals in the past, which I support. Last he really went against that supposedly because of the expansion draft, which I didn't agree with, but seems to be back to his old ideology.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 12:03 p.m.
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Quoting: newballcoach
The Rielly trade makes absolutely zero sense. Trade for a worse pending UFA then the one you already have? Unless it's a significant player or draft pick accompanying him, there's just no reason.


Of course.
I read one article that suggested it was Subban/Graves for Rielly. That would seem strange as Devils just acquired Graves.

I really just mashing up two rumors that are very likely into one move here.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Basically said they haven't had any discussions about anyone that's only got a year left on their deal. That's pretty standard for Dubas. He's shown a disinclination to deal for rentals in the past, which I support. Last he really went against that supposedly because of the expansion draft, which I didn't agree with, but seems to be back to his old ideology.


Well then, “not discussing players with one-year” would nix all three of these players.

So maybe I’m off a bit.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 12:11 p.m.
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Well then, “not discussing players with one-year” would nix all three of these players.

So maybe I’m off a bit.


Really it would only nix Subban. I think it was in the context of bringing someone into the fold, and Debrusk remains an RFA, and even though he said 'one year left', it seems pretty likely that he was referencing the expiration of rights.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 12:14 p.m.
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god the trades on this site are actively getting worse.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 12:19 p.m.
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Leafs laugh at this trade
Sep. 10, 2021 at 12:24 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Really it would only nix Subban. I think it was in the context of bringing someone into the fold, and Debrusk remains an RFA, and even though he said 'one year left', it seems pretty likely that he was referencing the expiration of rights.


Morgan Rielly has one year left, so covers him too?
Sep. 10, 2021 at 12:28 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Morgan Rielly has one year left, so covers him too?


No, cause it was in the context of bringing players in, not sending them out, iirc.
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Sep. 10, 2021 at 12:30 p.m.
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Quoting: HtotheBtotheM
god the trades on this site are actively getting worse.


Maybe the users are reading less and less

Quoting: MrDinkiee
Leafs laugh at this trade


There is no trade to laugh at.
These are just a couple of pieces that could be involved.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 12:31 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Maybe the users are reading less and less



There is no trade to laugh at.
These are just a couple of pieces that could be involved.


Leafs aren't trading their top defensemen for a an overpaid defensemen. Package starts with Wood and Graves
Sep. 10, 2021 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
No, cause it was in the context of bringing players in, not sending them out, iirc.


This was the quote. Hard to read much into it without knowing the context in which it was said.

Quoting: Dubas
"I could definitively say that we have not thought a single thing about any player that's going to be a free agent a year from now,"
Sep. 10, 2021 at 12:55 p.m.
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Quoting: MrDinkiee
Leafs aren't trading their top defensemen for a an overpaid defensemen. Package starts with Wood and Graves


…and continues with Leafs adding Amirov? Sandin?
Sep. 10, 2021 at 1:36 p.m.
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The rumor of Boston being interested in Subban came from Joe "the hack" Haggerty. A homeless person on the street that doesn't know what NHL stands for has more credibility.
Sep. 10, 2021 at 1:39 p.m.
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The rumor of Boston being interested in Subban came from Joe "the hack" Haggerty. A homeless person on the street that doesn't know what NHL stands for has more credibility.


I don’t know anything about Joe Haggerty.
But the rumor has been coming from a lot of places.

Would be a strange fit though
Sep. 10, 2021 at 1:49 p.m.
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I don’t know anything about Joe Haggerty.
But the rumor has been coming from a lot of places.

Would be a strange fit though


Count yourself lucky you don't know anything about HACKerty lol. He's a click-bait "insider" that writes stuff just to generate clicks and views so his company can sell ads. His "source" is his equally non-respected co-worker Jimmy "thin skin" Murphy. You're 100% right, it would be a strange fit.
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