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Impossible Situation That Doesnt Feel That Impossible

Created by: krakowitz
Initial Creation Date: Sep 15, 2021
Published: Sep 15 at 7:58
Team: 2022-23 Washington Capitals
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Let the record show that I do not think this is likely to happen. In all likelihood, this is my imagination being bored on a Wednesday evening.

It seems Malkin has had his issues with the Penguins for a long time, but nothing ever amounted to a trade. Is it possible he leaves in free agency this summer? I don't think it's likely, but I also wouldn't consider it impossible. And then look at the Caps. If Kuznetsov underwhelms again, he'll most certainly be on his way out. It will be difficult to find a center that can play behind Backstrom right now and keep us in contention. If Hertl is off the market by then, there really aren't any other good long term 2Cs on the market (Trocheck is the only other candidate that could fit). Instead of throwing Eller or McMichael in that spot, would they pivot to someone like Malkin to fill the void while McMichael and Lapierre develop? Would Malkin want to play with Ovechkin, especially while he chases Gretzky's record? I know the Caps want to get younger, but if there isn't a younger option on the market, going after someone like Malkin is a total Caps move. Washington seems to love going after big names after their prime years (Kovalchuk, Chara, Lundqvist recently, Fedorov and Nylander from a decade ago) and Malkin totally fits the bill as someone management would target in this situation.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Samsonov, Ilya4$4,000,000
Sprong, Daniel3$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Malkin, Evgeni2$7,000,000
Schultz, Justin2$3,750,000
Holtby, Braden1$1,000,000
Dowd, Nic2$1,000,000
Trades
1.
WSH
    to wherever for whatever
    VGK
    1. Kuznetsov, Evgeny
    2.
    WSH
      to wherever for whatever
      BOS
      1. Jensen, Nick
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2022
      WSH
      WPG
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      2023
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      2024
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      WSH
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      21$81,500,000$80,884,999$0$0$615,001
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      WSH
      Ovechkin, Alex
      $9,500,000
      LW, RW
      NMC NTC
      UFA - 4
      WSH
      Bäckström, Nicklas
      $9,200,000
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 3
      WSH
      Oshie, T.J.
      $5,750,000
      RW, C
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      WSH
      Mantha, Anthony
      $5,700,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 2
      Malkin, Evgeni
      $7,000,000
      C
      UFA
      WSH
      Wilson, Tom
      $5,166,666
      RW
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      WSH
      McMichael, Connor
      $863,333
      C
      RFA - 2
      WSH
      Eller, Lars
      $3,500,000
      C
      UFA - 1
      WSH
      Sprong, Daniel
      $3,000,000
      RW
      RFA
      WSH
      Hagelin, Carl
      $2,750,000
      LW
      UFA - 1
      WSH
      Dowd, Nic
      $1,000,000
      C
      UFA
      WSH
      Hathaway, Garnet
      $1,500,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      WSH
      Fehérváry, Martin
      $791,667
      LD
      RFA - 1
      WSH
      Carlson, John
      $8,000,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      WSH
      Samsonov, Ilya
      $4,000,000
      G
      RFA
      WSH
      Orlov, Dmitry
      $5,100,000
      LD/RD
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      WSH
      Schultz, Justin
      $3,750,000
      RD
      UFA
      Holtby, Braden
      $1,000,000
      G
      UFA
      WSH
      Alexeyev, Alexander
      $863,333
      LD
      RFA - 1
      WSH
      van Riemsdyk, Trevor
      $950,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 1
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      WSH
      Sheary, Conor
      $1,500,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1

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      Sep 15 at 9:15
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      I was thinking about this recently actually. Issue is Caps need to get younger and Malkin isn't that. But man, would I love it for so many reasons: pissing off PIT fans and getting Malkin and Ovi together.
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      Sep 15 at 10:34
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      Quoting: ClockReads2113
      I was thinking about this recently actually. Issue is Caps need to get younger and Malkin isn't that. But man, would I love it for so many reasons: pissing off PIT fans and getting Malkin and Ovi together.


      I totally agree that the Caps need to get younger. I just don't see a way they move on from Kuznetsov, get younger AND stay competitive. I think management could ultimately settle on getting Malkin to fill the void until McMichael/Lapierre is ready for that 2C spot.
      Sep 16 at 10:16
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      Edited Sep 16 at 11:57
      They're coming off identical seasons and Kuznetsov is six years younger. Why are we talking about this?

      eta: if the answer is Jensen for Marino, it's a start, but I think Kuznetsov should have a better year than Malkin this year if they get the same ice time. Trading to help Pittsburgh stay competitive and get younger crossed my mind here, and I didn't like it. smile
      Sep 16 at 1:39
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      Quoting: Eli
      They're coming off identical seasons and Kuznetsov is six years younger. Why are we talking about this?

      eta: if the answer is Jensen for Marino, it's a start, but I think Kuznetsov should have a better year than Malkin this year if they get the same ice time. Trading to help Pittsburgh stay competitive and get younger crossed my mind here, and I didn't like it. smile


      Not identical. Malkin was substantially better. I brought it up because in the event Kuznetsov has another down year, you know that GMBM will be looking to shake things up. It will most likely be too costly asset wise to trade away Kuznetsov and get a younger replacement 2C, and I can totally see him pivoting to Malkin to be the stopgap until one of the kids are ready. I want to believe that Kuznetsov will have a bounce back year and we keep him moving forward, but I'll believe it when I see it. Maybe him and Mantha have some natural chemistry or something.

      And why would Pittsburgh entertain Jensen for Marino? Marino is a much better player and it's not particularly close either.
      Sep 16 at 2:05
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      Quoting: krakowitz
      Not identical. Malkin was substantially better. I brought it up because in the event Kuznetsov has another down year, you know that GMBM will be looking to shake things up. It will most likely be too costly asset wise to trade away Kuznetsov and get a younger replacement 2C, and I can totally see him pivoting to Malkin to be the stopgap until one of the kids are ready. I want to believe that Kuznetsov will have a bounce back year and we keep him moving forward, but I'll believe it when I see it. Maybe him and Mantha have some natural chemistry or something.

      And why would Pittsburgh entertain Jensen for Marino? Marino is a much better player and it's not particularly close either.


      Kuznetsov and Malkin got similar boxcars last year. Very close. Within one point. Each started very slow and fanbases panicked and called for trades. The difference is six years of age, and that's probably more than the average NHL career. To me that difference is worth Marino, but I'm sure to PIttsburgh it isn't. Just being flippant.

      To me if Kuznetsov doesn't get motivated after two years with a million dollar coach, it's not necessarily on Kuznetsov.
       
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