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If Boston wants Hertl step up their offer

Created by: lilfimpen
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 16, 2021
Published: Sep. 16, 2021
Team: 2021-22 San Jose Sharks
Trades
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SJS
  1. Coyle, Charlie
  2. Lysell, Fabian
  3. 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Hertl, Tomas
Buyouts
  • Martin Jones: $1,916,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Andrew Cogliano: $500,000 (50%)
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$81,500,000$81,547,030$0$425,000-$47,030
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Kane, Evander
$7,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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Couture, Logan
$8,000,000
C, LW
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UFA - 6
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Labanc, Kevin
$4,725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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Kane, Evander
$2,108,696
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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Coyle, Charlie
$5,250,000
C, RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 5
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Balcers, Rūdolfs
$1,550,000
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RFA - 2
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Meier, Timo
$6,000,000
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Bonino, Nick
$2,050,000
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UFA - 2
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Barabanov, Alexander
$1,000,000
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Cogliano, Andrew
$500,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Gambrell, Dylan
$1,100,000
C
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Merkley, Nick
$750,000
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Leonard, John
$925,000
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Gregor, Noah
$750,000
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Lysell, Fabian
$925,000
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Nieto, Matt
$850,000
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UFA - 2
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Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
$7,000,000
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UFA - 5
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Karlsson, Erik
$11,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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Reimer, James
$2,250,000
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UFA - 2
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Simek, Radim
$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 3
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Pederson, Lane
$750,000
C
RFA - 2
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Hill, Adin
$2,175,000
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UFA - 2
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Ferraro, Mario
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
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Burns, Brent
$8,000,000
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Knyzhov, Nikolai
$796,667
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RFA - 1

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Sep. 16, 2021 at 8:50 p.m.
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How about 2022 first round pick, John Beecher and DeBrusk? Gotta have 50% RS too.
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Sep. 16, 2021 at 8:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Duggysdanglers
How about 2022 first round pick, John Beecher and DeBrusk? Gotta have 50% RS too.


This is an awful offer. It starts with Lysell. Period
Sep. 16, 2021 at 8:56 p.m.
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Quoting: lilfimpen
This is an awful offer. It starts with Lysell. Period


They just drafted him though. Hertl will fetch a first round pick, young player plus a B+ prospect.
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Sep. 16, 2021 at 8:56 p.m.
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Quoting: lilfimpen
This is an awful offer. It starts with Lysell. Period


Isn’t Hertl a pending UFA? Not sure you get nearly close to what you’re asking for with a rental deal. If hertl came with like a 5-6 year extension between 6-6.75 million then you’re talking with that deal.
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Sep. 16, 2021 at 9:09 p.m.
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Why would the sharks want coyle back and why would the bruins trade him?
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Sep. 16, 2021 at 9:14 p.m.
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Haha keep him then. Boston will take a run at him when he hits the FA market.
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Sep. 16, 2021 at 9:37 p.m.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Haha keep him then. Boston will take a run at him when he hits the FA market.


He won't hit the UFA market if SJ isn't going to re-sign him there will be much better trades then what Boston could ever offer lol Enjoy your 5mil 3c and never getting a proper replacement for Krejci.
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Sep. 16, 2021 at 10:04 p.m.
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Problem is Coyle has a NMC and a NTC he aint going waive for San Jose
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Sep. 16, 2021 at 11:44 p.m.
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Problem is Coyle has a NMC and a NTC he aint going waive for San Jose


I think he goin waive just fine to his draft team
Sep. 16, 2021 at 11:47 p.m.
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Boston is not trading Lysell and Coyle has an NMC.
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Sep. 16, 2021 at 11:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Jupetto
I think he goin waive just fine to his draft team


Lol, he’s playing for his hometown team that he dreamed about playing for as kid. He’s living a dream. Every kids dream. They’ll have to drag him out kicking and screaming. He could care less about who drafted him.
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Sep. 17, 2021 at 3:25 a.m.
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Lysell + a 2022 1st + a 2nd rounder does it for me without an extension.
Sep. 17, 2021 at 4:36 a.m.
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Quoting: CheechYou
Lysell + a 2022 1st + a 2nd rounder does it for me without an extension.


a little bit much for a rental don't you think?
Sep. 17, 2021 at 7:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Jupetto
He won't hit the UFA market if SJ isn't going to re-sign him there will be much better trades then what Boston could ever offer lol Enjoy your 5mil 3c and never getting a proper replacement for Krejci.


WTF does better trade offers have to do with him hitting the FA market? Are you trading him with an extension in place? Oh and spare me the enjoy your $5 million 3C crap when you have locker room cancers Evander Kane for $7 million. Let's not forget MEV for $7 million, the often injury Erik Karlsson for $11.5 million and Couture has seen his production start to decline over the last few years and he's another $8 million. Enjoy shelling out all that cap space to not be a contender.
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Sep. 17, 2021 at 9:19 a.m.
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Quoting: weili40
a little bit much for a rental don't you think?


Its not our problem if Boston doesn't re-sign him
Sep. 17, 2021 at 9:48 a.m.
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I don't think Boston WANTS Hertl (yet). I KNOW Hertl wants out of SJ. I'm SURE the Sharts will get better offers. I HOPE Hertl finds a team that makes him happy. He seems like a nice guy.
Sep. 17, 2021 at 10:06 a.m.
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Quoting: CheechYou
Lysell + a 2022 1st + a 2nd rounder does it for me without an extension.


Maybe for you. However the reported asking price is less than that, a 1st and either a center or D prospect. Insiders have said 1st/Studnicka or Beecher is the likely package.

Lysell is not going anywhere.
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Sep. 17, 2021 at 10:27 a.m.
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Quoting: Bruinadian67
I don't think Boston WANTS Hertl (yet). I KNOW Hertl wants out of SJ. I'm SURE the Sharts will get better offers. I HOPE Hertl finds a team that makes him happy. He seems like a nice guy.


Hertl never said he wanted out of SJ. All he said was he's not sure if the sharks want him back or if he wants to come back. People on this site translate interviews horribly and it snowballs into false statements like this. Be better. No organization treats their players with more class than SJ.
Sep. 17, 2021 at 10:32 a.m.
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Quoting: lilfimpen
Hertl never said he wanted out of SJ. All he said was he's not sure if the sharks want him back or if he wants to come back. People on this site translate interviews horribly and it snowballs into false statements like this. Be better. No organization treats their players with more class than SJ.


I'm sorry if I upset you. I see you only pointed out the negative aspects of my post. The path to better starts now.
Sep. 17, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: weili40
a little bit much for a rental don't you think?

There's an article I read recently where it says that teams who pay a premium to get a guy like that at the deadline typically know pretty well in advance that they'd be able to sign their guy to an extension (Parise, Kane, Karlsson come to mind right off the bat, all of whom signed [or in Parise's case, will sign] that extension).

So looking at it like that, I think it's a fair deal. Other teams will look at it like that too, which will force all the other teams to look at it like that too if they truly want their guy.
Sep. 25, 2021 at 1:23 a.m.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Haha keep him then. Boston will take a run at him when he hits the FA market.


Thats what I have been saying. Hertl is not going too resign in SJ and then we'll have too listen too all the SJ warriors cry on here.
Sep. 25, 2021 at 1:27 a.m.
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Quoting: CheechYou
There's an article I read recently where it says that teams who pay a premium to get a guy like that at the deadline typically know pretty well in advance that they'd be able to sign their guy to an extension (Parise, Kane, Karlsson come to mind right off the bat, all of whom signed [or in Parise's case, will sign] that extension).

So looking at it like that, I think it's a fair deal. Other teams will look at it like that too, which will force all the other teams to look at it like that too if they truly want their guy.


The only guy you mentioned that has ever been moved at the deadline was Kane (if you mean E. Kane)
Karlsson I can also understand what you're saying, if you knew how too word things.
But Parise? What does he have too do with anything?
Sep. 25, 2021 at 1:28 a.m.
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Quoting: lilfimpen
Hertl never said he wanted out of SJ. All he said was he's not sure if the sharks want him back or if he wants to come back. People on this site translate interviews horribly and it snowballs into false statements like this. Be better. No organization treats their players with more class than SJ.


"No organization treats their players with more class than SJ."

Oh Boy lmao. What an absolute homer you are.
 
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