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Team: 2021-22 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 18, 2021
Published: Sep. 18, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. Haula, Erik
  2. Lysell, Fabian
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Hertl, Tomas ($2,800,000 retained)
2.
SJS
  1. Berdin, Mikhail
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Reimer, James ($1,125,000 retained)
3.
SJS
  1. 2022 6th round pick (DET)
4.
SJS
  1. Boqvist, Jesper
  2. Kuokkanen, Janne
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (NJD)
  4. 2023 4th round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$62,318,334$0$425,000$19,181,666
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$4,725,000$4,725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,825,000$1,825,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$2,375,000$2,375,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,550,000$1,550,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,025,000$1,025,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
UFA - 1
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$796,667$796,667
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,175,000$2,175,000
G
UFA - 2
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,108,696$2,108,696
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 18, 2021 at 3:32 p.m.
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Nope. Lysell off limits.
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Sep. 18, 2021 at 3:35 p.m.
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Winnipeg would have no interest in giving up their best goalie prospect for a marginal backup that isn't much of an improvement on what they currently have.
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Sep. 18, 2021 at 4:05 p.m.
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Nope. Lysell off limits.


Given your organizational lack of high end C's beyond Bergeron who has to decline one of these days (lol) is he really off the table if it solves an area of need?
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Sep. 18, 2021 at 4:11 p.m.
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Given your organizational lack of high end C's beyond Bergeron who has to decline one of these days (lol) is he really off the table if it solves an area of need?


Yes
Sep. 18, 2021 at 4:13 p.m.
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Yes


But you won't be able to build a winning team without a strong c corps.

Not saying it has to be this trade but when Bergeron retires/inevitably declines it will be a very flawed team. Strong wings and d and likely goaltending with a garbage c corps. How does that work?
Sep. 18, 2021 at 4:15 p.m.
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But you won't be able to build a winning team without a strong c corps.

Not saying it has to be this trade but when Bergeron retires/inevitably declines it will be a very flawed team. Strong wings and d and likely goaltending with a garbage c corps. How does that work?


Free agency
Sep. 18, 2021 at 4:41 p.m.
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Free agency


Over the last 10 years I'm having trouble thinking of succesful top 6 Ufa C's signing with a new team beyond Tavares and Hayes. Can you think of any others in the last decade?
Sep. 18, 2021 at 6:24 p.m.
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Over the last 10 years I'm having trouble thinking of succesful top 6 Ufa C's signing with a new team beyond Tavares and Hayes. Can you think of any others in the last decade?


Paul Stastny in 2018.
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Sep. 18, 2021 at 7:04 p.m.
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Paul Stastny in 2018.


2014 too in st Louis! So there are 4 times! In 10 years. I'd be pretty damn hesitant to depend on it
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Sep. 18, 2021 at 7:08 p.m.
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2014 too in st Louis! So there are 4 times! In 10 years. I'd be pretty damn hesitant to depend on it


Yeah, but look at the potential-UFA 2023-24 class of top-flight centers: O'Reilly, Monahan, MacKinnon, Larkin, Horvat. (And that's not counting Toews and Jordan Staal because they'll be over 35.) I think that a couple of those guys are guaranteed to re-up where they are, but maybe one or two of them will actually be available when summer 2023 rolls around.
Sep. 18, 2021 at 8:36 p.m.
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Given your organizational lack of high end C's beyond Bergeron who has to decline one of these days (lol) is he really off the table if it solves an area of need?


Hertl is only signed for this year and could walk anyways... leaving Boston without Lysell and a center lol
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Sep. 18, 2021 at 8:47 p.m.
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Yeah, but look at the potential-UFA 2023-24 class of top-flight centers: O'Reilly, Monahan, MacKinnon, Larkin, Horvat. (And that's not counting Toews and Jordan Staal because they'll be over 35.) I think that a couple of those guys are guaranteed to re-up where they are, but maybe one or two of them will actually be available when summer 2023 rolls around.


Its just so rare that they end up making it to free agency. That's why Tavares was so unique. Guys almost always re-up or are traded at the deadline and re-up with the new team.
Sep. 18, 2021 at 8:47 p.m.
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Hertl is only signed for this year and could walk anyways... leaving Boston without Lysell and a center lol


Oh for sure. I didn't mean this trade per se. Just the idea of him being off the table
Sep. 19, 2021 at 1:25 a.m.
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Not giving up lysell at all
Sep. 19, 2021 at 7:33 a.m.
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Oh for sure. I didn't mean this trade per se. Just the idea of him being off the table


He pretty much is off the table right now. As much as we need a young center, we've been looking for a future top 6 rw to play behind Pasta for 4-5 years now.
Sep. 19, 2021 at 8:15 a.m.
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I doubt Reimer to Winnipeg happens, as all of the public comments by the Cheveldayoff and Maurice indicate that Comrie will be given a fair shot at the backup role and Reimer would go against everything they have said publicly. If Comrie stumbles as the backup, then they would probably go with Berdin as the replacement given the cap situation.
Sep. 19, 2021 at 11:31 a.m.
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He pretty much is off the table right now. As much as we need a young center, we've been looking for a future top 6 rw to play behind Pasta for 4-5 years now.


I suppose. But a number 2 RW is way, way, way less important than a #2 c let alone a #1 c. Both of which I don't see any future options in your organization. I'm not saying throw him out for the first shot. Just saying he shouldn't be untouchable.
Sep. 19, 2021 at 12:08 p.m.
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I suppose. But a number 2 RW is way, way, way less important than a #2 c let alone a #1 c. Both of which I don't see any future options in your organization. I'm not saying throw him out for the first shot. Just saying he shouldn't be untouchable.


Studs has 2C upside tbh. Also while it looks like they have no one, you never know. Did people think Bergeron would be a 1C? Did people think Marchand would be a 1LW?

The good thing for Boston is it's an active spot for FA's.
Sep. 19, 2021 at 12:23 p.m.
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Studs has 2C upside tbh. Also while it looks like they have no one, you never know. Did people think Bergeron would be a 1C? Did people think Marchand would be a 1LW?

The good thing for Boston is it's an active spot for FA's.


Bergeron looked like he had 1c upside since his 18 year old rookie season.

Studnicka is plausible. But not great likelihood

And again looking at the last decade their have been 3 #1c UFAs that have succeeded.

Tavares
And Stastny twice.

Hayes as a 2c

That's it. Teams have to draft or trade for 1cs the vast vast vast majority of the time
Sep. 19, 2021 at 2:12 p.m.
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Bergeron looked like he had 1c upside since his 18 year old rookie season.

Studnicka is plausible. But not great likelihood

And again looking at the last decade their have been 3 #1c UFAs that have succeeded.

Tavares
And Stastny twice.

Hayes as a 2c

That's it. Teams have to draft or trade for 1cs the vast vast vast majority of the time


Yup Bergeron looked like he was going to be such a 1C at 18yrs old he went in the 2nd round and for a period of time Krejci was Boston's 1C.
Sep. 19, 2021 at 2:36 p.m.
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Yup Bergeron looked like he was going to be such a 1C at 18yrs old he went in the 2nd round and for a period of time Krejci was Boston's 1C.


Bergeron made his debut at 18 in 2003/2004, 3 years before Krejci made his 6 game debut in 2006.

He had an impressive half a point per game debut. Then the lockdown happened. Then he had back to back incredible 70+ point seasons. He then had a major injury and what he was going to be was not clear. He returned and became the incredible two way force we have seen and eventually regained his high end offensive game. During that time Krejci came out as a good young c as well.

Bergeron wasn't clearly a 1c at 18, let alone what he is today. But the point is he was a half a point a game c at 18, which is impressive and showed it likely he would be a long term top 6 c. No current Boston Bruins c prospect has done anything near that
Sep. 19, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.
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Bergeron made his debut at 18 in 2003/2004, 3 years before Krejci made his 6 game debut in 2006.

He had an impressive half a point per game debut. Then the lockdown happened. Then he had back to back incredible 70+ point seasons. He then had a major injury and what he was going to be was not clear. He returned and became the incredible two way force we have seen and eventually regained his high end offensive game. During that time Krejci came out as a good young c as well.

Bergeron wasn't clearly a 1c at 18, let alone what he is today. But the point is he was a half a point a game c at 18, which is impressive and showed it likely he would be a long term top 6 c. No current Boston Bruins c prospect has done anything near that


Lol your trying to rattle off Bruins history like I haven't followed the team for over 30yrs laugh

Again my points valid and you haven't said anything to prove otherwise. If a rookie put up 41pts in today's NHL no one is thinking this kids going to be a 1C. Wonder how any had Point as a stud 1C? Couldn't have been many since he was a 3rd round pick. It's almost like every player develops differently and sometimes you don't know what you have until you have it sarcasm
Sep. 19, 2021 at 5:27 p.m.
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Lol your trying to rattle off Bruins history like I haven't followed the team for over 30yrs laugh

Again my points valid and you haven't said anything to prove otherwise. If a rookie put up 41pts in today's NHL no one is thinking this kids going to be a 1C. Wonder how any had Point as a stud 1C? Couldn't have been many since he was a 3rd round pick. It's almost like every player develops differently and sometimes you don't know what you have until you have it sarcasm


If an 18 year old rookie puts up 40 points people certainly think they have a bright future. Habs fan thought Kotkaniemi was an untouchable stud after doing it.

Hughes had a 1/3 a ppg as a rookie and people still thought number 1c

Anyway this conversation is going nowhere. The fact remains Boston has no clear high end c prospects and that is an area of need
Sep. 19, 2021 at 7:11 p.m.
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If an 18 year old rookie puts up 40 points people certainly think they have a bright future. Habs fan thought Kotkaniemi was an untouchable stud after doing it.

Hughes had a 1/3 a ppg as a rookie and people still thought number 1c

Anyway this conversation is going nowhere. The fact remains Boston has no clear high end c prospects and that is an area of need


Hughes was also a #1OA and touted as a franchise center when he was drafted lol. What a terrible comparison. Again there's players that aren't highly touted that become high end players. Does that mean any one of the Bruins prospect will? No idea, we'll have to see how they develop. But the point still stands, Lysell is a non-starter for Boston.
 
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