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What would it cost

Created by: BCAPP
Initial Creation Date: Sep 21, 2021
Published: Sep 21 at 8:56
Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
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So this is a mostly silly post, but with Pettersson's negotiating position improving with the kaprizov deal, if Vancouver decides to sign one of their big youngsters and trade Hughes to jersey for the triple bro connection what would it cost?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Pettersson, Elias7$10,500,000
Trades
1.
VAN
    Mercer? Smith?
    NJD
    1. Hughes, Quinn [RFA Rights]
    Buyouts
    • Braden Holtby: $500,000
    • Jake Virtanen: $50,000
    Recapture Fees
    • Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2022
    VAN
    WPG
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    2023
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    2024
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$76,410,659$648,780$3,400,000$5,089,341
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    VAN
    Garland, Conor
    $4,950,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    VAN
    Pettersson, Elias
    $10,500,000
    C
    RFA - 3
    VAN
    Boeser, Brock
    $5,875,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Miller, J.T.
    $5,250,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Horvat, Bo
    $5,500,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Höglander, Nils
    $891,667
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    VAN
    Pearson, Tanner
    $3,250,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    VAN
    Dickinson, Jason
    $2,650,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 3
    VAN
    Podkolzin, Vasily
    $925,000
    RW
    RFA - 3
    VAN
    Motte, Tyler
    $1,225,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    MacEwen, Zack
    $825,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Sutter, Brandon
    $1,125,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    VAN
    Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
    $7,260,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    VAN
    Myers, Tyler
    $6,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    VAN
    Demko, Thatcher
    $5,000,000
    G
    UFA - 5
    VAN
    Rathbone, Jack
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Hamonic, Travis
    $3,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Halák, Jaroslav
    $1,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Hunt, Brad
    $800,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Poolman, Tucker
    $2,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    VAN
    Highmore, Matthew
    $725,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Ferland, Micheal
    $3,500,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Bailey, Justin
    $750,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Juolevi, Olli
    $750,000
    LD
    RFA - 1

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    Sep 21 at 9:00
    #1
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    Smith, Severson, Mercer and a 2nd.
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    Sep 21 at 9:03
    #2
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    Smith, Holtz, and a 1st. They aren't interested in trading him unless it's an overpayment
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    Sep 21 at 9:31
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    Honestly, he's a great player and it would be a PR coup, but lets stop. Smith is a fine defender and I think Mercer is a much needed winger for 13 or 86. Also we are flush with lefty D men. If he feels the need to play with his bros do it in FA, enough already.
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    Sep 21 at 9:32
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    Quoting: Smitty426
    Honestly, he's a great player and it would be a PR coup, but lets stop. Smith is a fine defender and I think Mercer is a much needed winger for 13 or 86. Also we are flush with lefty D men. If he feels the need to play with his bros do it in FA, enough already.


    Mostly just being silly as Vancouver's negotiating position just took a hit
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    Sep 21 at 9:39
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    LongtimeLeafsufferer
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    Quoting: Smitty426
    Honestly, he's a great player and it would be a PR coup, but lets stop. Smith is a fine defender and I think Mercer is a much needed winger for 13 or 86. Also we are flush with lefty D men. If he feels the need to play with his bros do it in FA, enough already.


    I don't know if Hughes could be considered a great player. I question about two Hughes maybe three Hughes on same team. They just might have this brotherly bond, instead of a "team" bond. Maybe later in their careers, but in their early 20s, I think it puts the coachesin a touchy position.
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    Sep 21 at 9:39
    #6
    MERCER SZN
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    Agreed with @Smitty426

    Quinn is a good player but the Devils don't need him right now. They have enough offensive defensemen. Vancouver would want an overpayment to get Quinn and the Devils wouldn't be the team to overpay for him.
    Since the Canucks are struggling to negotiate a contract with Quinn, it's more likely they fold into Quinn's demands in terms of AAV and term, which could be bad for the Canucks
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    Sep 21 at 9:46
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    Quoting: palhal
    I don't know if Hughes could be considered a great player. I question about two Hughes maybe three Hughes on same team. They just might have this brotherly bond, instead of a "team" bond. Maybe later in their careers, but in their early 20s, I think it puts the coachesin a touchy position.


    Not a bad point
    Sep 21 at 10:24
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    cshores
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    QH is done just waiting on EP given that if NJD want QH cost will be something like Holtz, Smith 22 1st and 2nd and 23 7th take it or leave it
    Sep 21 at 10:36
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    Quoting: palhal
    I don't know if Hughes could be considered a great player. I question about two Hughes maybe three Hughes on same team. They just might have this brotherly bond, instead of a "team" bond. Maybe later in their careers, but in their early 20s, I think it puts the coachesin a touchy position.


    Very well said.would be great to see One Day.
    Sep 21 at 11:02
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    Opie
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    Quoting: Db1899
    Smith, Severson, Mercer and a 2nd.


    I know this will be considered sacrilege to the Quinn Hughes fandom & Hughes Family worshippers, but the gap between Quinn and Smith is not that great. If Vancouver could make a trade for Smith and another high level prospect or pick, long term, they will win this trade. They could probably even get more, given the Hughes brother hype, but its a win either way.
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    Sep 21 at 11:10
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    Quoting: Opie
    I know this will be considered sacrilege to the Quinn Hughes fandom & Hughes Family worshippers, but the gap between Quinn and Smith is not that great. If Vancouver could make a trade for Smith and another high level prospect or pick, long term, they will win this trade. They could probably even get more, given the Hughes brother hype, but its a win either way.


    I think Quinn was put in a position to fail last season because Benning can’t construct a competent D-core, but I agree that the gap isn’t that great.
    Sep 21 at 11:12
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    Opie
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    Quoting: Db1899
    I think Quinn was put in a position to fail last season because Benning can’t construct a competent D-core, but I agree that the gap isn’t that great.


    That's what Jack basically intimated in his interview today. Little bro was firing some shots on behalf of Quinn today.
    Sep 22 at 6:13
    #13
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    Quoting: Db1899
    Smith, Severson, Mercer and a 2nd.


    Quoting: TheAlien
    Smith, Holtz, and a 1st.


    All of these Quinn-to-NJD packages, like these two above, are nowhere near reality.
    Teams don't give up hockey assets for the sake of a PR win.

    The gap between Quinn and Smith is de minimus.
    If there were a hockey trade to be made, it would essentially be Quinn for Smith (with some minor parts perhaps).
    And that is it.
    Guys like Severson, Mercer, Holtz, or high picks are not going to be added just for the sake of the "three brothers" PR win.
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    Sep 22 at 6:36
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    Quoting: Smitty426
    Honestly, he's a great player and it would be a PR coup, but lets stop. Smith is a fine defender and I think Mercer is a much needed winger for 13 or 86. Also we are flush with lefty D men. If he feels the need to play with his bros do it in FA, enough already.


    Quoting: Devil1122
    Agreed with Smitty426

    Quinn is a good player but the Devils don't need him right now. They have enough offensive defensemen. Vancouver would want an overpayment to get Quinn and the Devils wouldn't be the team to overpay for him.
    Since the Canucks are struggling to negotiate a contract with Quinn, it's more likely they fold into Quinn's demands in terms of AAV and term, which could be bad for the Canucks


    Concur with the esteemed @Smitty426 and @Devil1122 here.

    The Devils LD pipeline

    Ryan Graves (NHL)
    Ty Smith (NHL)
    Kevin Bahl (NHL)
    Jonas Siegenthaler (NHL)

    Luke Hughes (Michigan, NCAA)
    Shakir Mukhamadullin (Salavat Yulaev, KHL)
    Ethan Edwards (Michigan, NCAA)

    Michael Vukojevic (Utica, AHL)
    Nikita Okhotyuk (Utica, AHL)

    Daniil Misyul (Lokomotiv, KHL)
    Yegor Zaitsev (Dynamo Moscow, KHL)
    Topias Vilen (Pelicans, Liiga)

    We are going to run out of spots to play these guys
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