Forums/Armchair-GM

Coulda Shoulda

Created by: SCGLisme2
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 21, 2021
Published: Sep. 22, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
This is what could have been and IMO they would have been better off going forward.
There is Cap space but will need it when Byron comes back in late December.
They are still weak at Center after Suz but perhaps Bergy does something like picking up Dvorak for Drouin and a 1st or something like that. Also maybe Brady doesn't sign for 8 mill either, there would have been many options!
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Tkachuk, Brady8$8,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Galchenyuk, Alex1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
CAR
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (CAR)
  2. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
2.
MTL
  1. Tkachuk, Brady [RFA Rights]
OTT
  1. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
3.
MTL
  1. 2022 1st round pick (MTL)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (MTL)
ARI
  1. Dvorak, Christian
4.
MTL
    WPG
    1. Perreault, Mathieu
    Additional Details:
    Don't sign him
    5.
    MTL
      ANA
      1. Drouin, Jonathan
      Additional Details:
      Whoever takes him
      Buyouts
      • Karl Alzner: $1,958,333
      Retained Salary Transactions
      • Brett Kulak: $925,000 (50%)
      • Ben Chiarot: $1,750,000 (50%)
      • Artturi Lehkonen: $1,150,000 (50%)
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2022
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the ANA
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the TBL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the STL
      2023
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      2024
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      22$81,500,000$79,219,227$597,561$1,475,000$2,280,773
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      Logo of the MTL
      Toffoli, Tyler
      $4,250,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the MTL
      Suzuki, Nick
      $863,333
      C
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the MTL
      Caufield, Cole
      $880,833
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
      Tkachuk, Brady
      $8,000,000
      LW, C
      UFA - 7
      Galchenyuk, Alex
      $1,000,000
      LW, C, RW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the MTL
      Gallagher, Brendan
      $6,500,000
      RW
      NMC NTC
      UFA - 6
      Logo of the MTL
      Hoffman, Mike
      $4,500,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the MTL
      Paquette, Cédric
      $950,000
      C, LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the MTL
      Anderson, Josh
      $5,500,000
      RW, LW
      NTC
      UFA - 6
      Logo of the MTL
      Lehkonen, Artturi
      $1,150,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the MTL
      Evans, Jake
      $750,000
      C, RW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the MTL
      Armia, Joel
      $3,400,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 4
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      Logo of the MTL
      Edmundson, Joel
      $3,500,000
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the MTL
      Petry, Jeff
      $6,250,000
      RD
      NMC NTC
      UFA - 4
      Logo of the MTL
      Price, Carey
      $10,500,000
      G
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      Logo of the MTL
      Chiarot, Ben
      $1,750,000
      LD/RD
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the MTL
      Savard, David
      $3,500,000
      RD
      UFA - 4
      Logo of the MTL
      Allen, Jake
      $2,875,000
      G
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the MTL
      Kulak, Brett
      $925,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the MTL
      Wideman, Chris
      $750,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the MTL
      Romanov, Alexander
      $894,167
      LD/RD
      RFA - 1
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      Logo of the MTL
      Poehling, Ryan
      $750,000
      C, LW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the MTL
      Byron, Paul
      $3,400,000
      LW, RW, C
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the MTL
      Weber, Shea
      $7,857,143
      RD
      UFA - 5

      Embed Code

      • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
      • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

      Text-Embed

      Click to Highlight
      Sep. 22, 2021 at 9:10 a.m.
      #1
      Avatar of the user
      Joined: Nov. 2018
      Posts: 9,713
      Likes: 3,480
      How would we be any further ahead right now? Brady is likely sitting out the beginning of the season holding out for more money. He was supposedly offered 8 x 8 and still has not signed and his dad and brother are getting involved with the negotiations. For me this is worse than KK leaving via a ridiculous OS, Brady clearly puts himself before the team, 8 x 8 is an overpayment yet he still wants more money.
      Sep. 22, 2021 at 9:21 a.m.
      #2
      stand with naz
      Avatar of the user
      Joined: Feb. 2019
      Posts: 13,716
      Likes: 6,961
      This team is weaker than before
      Sep. 22, 2021 at 9:28 a.m.
      #3
      Lenny7
      Avatar of the user
      Joined: Jan. 2017
      Posts: 11,014
      Likes: 8,747
      Quoting: Campabee
      Brady clearly puts himself before the team, 8 x 8 is an overpayment yet he still wants more money.


      Whaaaat? For the life of me, I'll never understand folks that equate the amount that a player is being paid to whether a player is selfish. How are we going to sit here and say that Brady puts himself before the team, when the owner of that team has pinched pennies for the entire time he's owned the organization?
      Sep. 22, 2021 at 9:30 a.m.
      #4
      Avatar of the user
      Joined: Jun. 2017
      Posts: 1,315
      Likes: 338
      Galchenyuk at 2C tears of joy tears of joy
      palhal liked this.
      Sep. 22, 2021 at 9:38 a.m.
      #5
      Evans truther
      Avatar of the user
      Joined: Jul. 2019
      Posts: 1,989
      Likes: 1,076
      Quoting: Campabee
      How would we be any further ahead right now? Brady is likely sitting out the beginning of the season holding out for more money. He was supposedly offered 8 x 8 and still has not signed and his dad and brother are getting involved with the negotiations. For me this is worse than KK leaving via a ridiculous OS, Brady clearly puts himself before the team, 8 x 8 is an overpayment yet he still wants more money.

      You do have a good point there! Nobody will argue Brady isn't bringing more to his team than KK right now but would you rather have Brady and a Kole Sherwood or Tyler Toffoli and Mike Hoffman for roughly the same cap hit? They aren't bringing the same skillset to the table, it's just to show how much money Brady's looking to get.

      OP:
      If we keep playing the "If" game then it's pretty sure that Toffoli isn't with us as Berge would've went to FA with a top 6 center as his mindset, not scoring wingers. That year was pretty bad with pretty much only Craig Smith and Granlund being middle six options so a trade would've been much more likely (Year prior was the Duchene year and he didn't want to join us so..).
      SCGLisme2 liked this.
      Sep. 22, 2021 at 9:50 a.m.
      #6
      Avatar of the user
      Joined: Nov. 2018
      Posts: 9,713
      Likes: 3,480
      Quoting: Lenny7
      Whaaaat? For the life of me, I'll never understand folks that equate the amount that a player is being paid to whether a player is selfish. How are we going to sit here and say that Brady puts himself before the team, when the owner of that team has pinched pennies for the entire time he's owned the organization?


      8 Mil x 8 years is not penny pinching, he is offering more than what Brady should be getting. Brady should only be in the 6-7 mil range on that length coming off his ELC. To be holding out for more money after that kind of offer IS pretty damn selfish.
      MisstheWhalers liked this.
      Sep. 22, 2021 at 10:30 a.m.
      #7
      LongtimeLeafsufferer
      Avatar of the user
      Joined: Jul. 2015
      Posts: 45,738
      Likes: 15,015
      Brady getting 8m a year seems like an overpayment. Besides it from the rumours he has turned down 8m from the Sens. Like his brother (and other players) he is angling to be a UFA in four years after his ELC.
      MisstheWhalers liked this.
      Sep. 22, 2021 at 10:35 a.m.
      #8
      sensonfire
      Avatar of the user
      Joined: Feb. 2021
      Posts: 6,516
      Likes: 2,288
      Assuming the Habs take Tkachuk at 3 in 2018, we would have been more likely to take Zadina at 4 than Kotkaniemi.
      Sep. 22, 2021 at 11:34 a.m.
      #9
      LongtimeLeafsufferer
      Avatar of the user
      Joined: Jul. 2015
      Posts: 45,738
      Likes: 15,015
      Quoting: sensonfire
      Assuming the Habs take Tkachuk at 3 in 2018, we would have been more likely to take Zadina at 4 than Kotkaniemi.


      I was somewhat surprised Sens took Tkachuk at # 3. I kinda figured he wasn't long for Ottawa, though once he signs his first NHL contract, he is under control of the Sens for seven years.

      The Sabres are not a good organization. When they selected Michigan Dman Owen Power as # 1 overall last summer, the most important criteria is whether he is going to sign as a Sabre. College graduates can become UFA....Fox, Marino, Vesey and others were drafted but did not sign with their clubs and waited a few years to graduate and thus become UFAs.

      Just saying more and more RFAs or even unsigned draftees are wielding more power in their NHL destination, $$$ and term.
      Sep. 22, 2021 at 12:37 p.m.
      #10
      sensonfire
      Avatar of the user
      Joined: Feb. 2021
      Posts: 6,516
      Likes: 2,288
      Quoting: palhal
      I was somewhat surprised Sens took Tkachuk at # 3. I kinda figured he wasn't long for Ottawa, though once he signs his first NHL contract, he is under control of the Sens for seven years.

      The Sabres are not a good organization. When they selected Michigan Dman Owen Power as # 1 overall last summer, the most important criteria is whether he is going to sign as a Sabre. College graduates can become UFA....Fox, Marino, Vesey and others were drafted but did not sign with their clubs and waited a few years to graduate and thus become UFAs.

      Just saying more and more RFAs or even unsigned draftees are wielding more power in their NHL destination, $$$ and term.


      You mean at #4?

      o_O
      palhal liked this.
       
      Reply
      To create a post please Login or Register
      Question:
      Options:
      Add Option
      Remove Option
      Submit Poll