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Jun. 4 at 9:42 p.m.
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The Vancouver Canucks would like to announce that they have acquired forward Jake Guentzel and forward prospect Valtteri Puustinen from the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for forward Tanner Pearson, defensemens Alexandre Carrier and Brady Skjei, and forward prospect Linus Karlsson.

Guentzel is fresh off of a forty-goal season and we have big aspirations that he will contribute to bringing home a Stanley Cup to Vancouver.

Thank you,
Vancouver Management
Jun. 6 at 9:02 a.m.
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for those that dont have it... @joshhanson9 on twitter. if you like anyone and wanna try and make moves let me know!

Edit: SJS BTW
Jun. 8 at 1:24 p.m.
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Looking to move Taylor Hall for futures.
Jun. 8 at 1:33 p.m.
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Looking to move Taylor Hall for futures.


selling early cuz the bruins about to suck. good call good call.
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Jun. 9 at 8:45 a.m.
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It seems like a lot of people are on board with giving bottom feeders a negative bonus for UFA signings as they believe that it will make it more realistic as bottom teams don't usually get decent UFAs unless they really overpay them. The BoG doesn't seem to care what, I believe is the majority of GMs, think on this subject. This is what I proposed and people seemed to like. Like this post if you think this is a good idea.

Cup Winner gets 2 UFA signings + 10% UFA Bonus
2-8 get 1 UFA signing + 10% UFA Bonus
9-16 get 1 UFA and 5% Bonus
16-21 get 1 UFA
22-25 1 UFA and -5% UFA Bonus
26-29 No UFA and -10% UFA Bonus
30-32 No UFA and -15% UFA Bonus

You would also still get your 5% UFA bonus for any UFAs you own. So teams 30-32 could better their chances to -10%.
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Jun. 9 at 9:52 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
It seems like a lot of people are on board with giving bottom feeders a negative bonus for UFA signings as they believe that it will make it more realistic as bottom teams don't usually get decent UFAs unless they really overpay them. The BoG doesn't seem to care what, I believe is the majority of GMs, think on this subject. This is what I proposed and people seemed to like. Like this post if you think this is a good idea.

Cup Winner gets 2 UFA signings + 10% UFA Bonus
2-8 get 1 UFA signing + 10% UFA Bonus
9-16 get 1 UFA and 5% Bonus
16-21 get 1 UFA
22-25 1 UFA and -5% UFA Bonus
26-29 No UFA and -10% UFA Bonus
30-32 No UFA and -15% UFA Bonus

You would also still get your 5% UFA bonus for any UFAs you own. So teams 30-32 could better their chances to -10%.


Did you look at the updated rulebook?
Jun. 9 at 10:15 a.m.
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BOG can't handle the heat so they remove me from the chat...I think it's time for a new BOG!
Jun. 9 at 10:17 a.m.
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Did you look at the updated rulebook?


Turner said in chat that we aren't doing negative bonuses so clearly you BOG members are NOT on the same page. He's literally been arguing it last night and this morning.
Jun. 9 at 3:28 p.m.
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When I set up my new Twitter over the weekend (or here on the forums), feel free to inquire on Matt Dumba, Lawson Crouse, Jonas Brodin, and Linus Ullmark.
Jun. 9 at 5:37 p.m.
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When I set up my new Twitter over the weekend (or here on the forums), feel free to inquire on Matt Dumba, Lawson Crouse, Jonas Brodin, and Linus Ullmark.


DM me about Crouse please
Jun. 9 at 5:45 p.m.
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Quoting: EmpressKayla
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When I set up my new Twitter over the weekend (or here on the forums), feel free to inquire on Matt Dumba, Lawson Crouse, Jonas Brodin, and Linus Ullmark.


New twitter? what happened
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Jun. 10 at 4:06 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
It seems like a lot of people are on board with giving bottom feeders a negative bonus for UFA signings as they believe that it will make it more realistic as bottom teams don't usually get decent UFAs unless they really overpay them. The BoG doesn't seem to care what, I believe is the majority of GMs, think on this subject. This is what I proposed and people seemed to like. Like this post if you think this is a good idea.

Cup Winner gets 2 UFA signings + 10% UFA Bonus
2-8 get 1 UFA signing + 10% UFA Bonus
9-16 get 1 UFA and 5% Bonus
16-21 get 1 UFA
22-25 1 UFA and -5% UFA Bonus
26-29 No UFA and -10% UFA Bonus
30-32 No UFA and -15% UFA Bonus

You would also still get your 5% UFA bonus for any UFAs you own. So teams 30-32 could better their chances to -10%.


UFA bonus applies before or after the "contract offers"? like lets say arizona and florida both offer a 5x5 deal to a ufa. would the bonus/penalty affect the point outcome of that to determine who goes to the lotto bid? or would it apply during the ran lotto?

idk if arizona was the worst in our game but for simplicity standpoint. 27.5 points on a 5x5 for florida and other top 8 playoff teams and 21.25 points on a 5x5 for the 2 worst teams in the league.

in order for those teams to make a similar point structured offer they would have to be offering close to 6.5m on a 5 year deal.... thats at 5m. this stuff scales quick and WILL get out of control. Which teams are going to have the most cap space and say "i can absorb the extra hit"?

we can use any ufa deal out there tomas hertls deal this year (exclusive extension but still eats all ufa years)... 8.1375 x 8 thats 65.1 points +10% thats 71.61. worst team in league offers same deal (san jose sucked this year btw they finished as team 22 irl...) 55.335 points. in order for them to get the SAME point value to get into the lotto.... 10.53 x 8 would have to be the offer. Last year NJD finished 3rd worst. dougie hamilton went to them at what seemed like market rates based on seth jones (signed a mega deal with chicago bad team), darnell nurse, and chucky bright lights deals.

there are a stupid amount of uncontrollable factors that weigh into IRL UFA decision making: destination, favorite team, friends in the league, coaches they wanna play for, cities they dont want to play for etc. Its already hard/bad enough to win/predict what ufa values are going to be. now you want to handicap half the league into offering more while allowing contenders to theoretically get deals on ufa's?

I get the theory you are trying to propose but you guys think in a vacuum too often... apply this across the board with any contract. worst IRL team in the league is montreal, youre telling me they're just not gunna get free agents or have to significantly overpay them while contending teams (who realistically have no cap space btw) are just gunna get all the top tier free agents on cheap deals. You need to allow the system to naturally have buyers and sellers, this is a game that includes SIGNIFICANTLY more trading and player/pick movement than irl. MOST tanking teams dont bother going after high priced free agents because... shocker they dont want to waste their money paying guys when they have no shot! Teams know what their window is, teams know how to weaponize their cap space when they arent in their windows. Thats why the coyotes didnt re-sign taylor hall. thats why the devils traded hall to the coyotes. There 100% are teams that struggle to bring in high profile players but you cant single out teams in our game because of that.

All negative bonuses will do in our game where a team can literally bounce from worst to first in like 3 months (homza went from a bottom feeder to what 8th last year in like 2 months?) is create unmovable contracts. Seems like you guys want matt duchene 11.5m contracts back.
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Jun. 10 at 7:30 a.m.
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All negative bonuses will do in our game where a team can literally bounce from worst to first in like 3 months (homza went from a bottom feeder to what 8th last year in like 2 months?) is create unmovable contracts. Seems like you guys want matt duchene 11.5m contracts back.


$13.25M
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Jun. 10 at 8:09 a.m.
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New twitter? what happened


Had to delete the old one for my mental health. I followed too many political accounts.

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DM me about Crouse please


Either futures or an RD.
Jun. 10 at 8:35 a.m.
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Double posting; don't care. Took less time than I thought it would! Please add me back to the chat and follow me @KaylaMNWild
Jun. 10 at 9:49 a.m.
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$13.25M


even worse than i thought lmao
Jun. 10 at 10:04 a.m.
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even worse than i thought lmao


people should be smart enough not to sign those contracts with all the other rules we have in place (Hanson Rule) It also doesn't guarantee that the bottom feeder will win the bid.
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Jun. 10 at 10:14 p.m.
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So it seems that a lot of people are in agreement that we should use IrL deals for RFAs. Consensus seems to be to remove all RFA signings that have happened and start the IrL immediately. If a player doesn’t have an IRL deal then the GM can QO them until an IRL deal happens.
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Jun. 10 at 10:15 p.m.
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Alright so rule proposal

All in game RFA extentions will be matched to their IRL deals, regardless of any trade/holdout

If a player holds out, you may not ice them in your lineup

If a player does not get QO’d and gets sent to UFA, you may sign them at their QO

Like if you agree!!!
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Jun. 11 at 1:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Gronk
Alright so rule proposal

All in game RFA extentions will be matched to their IRL deals, regardless of any trade/holdout

If a player holds out, you may not ice them in your lineup

If a player does not get QO’d and gets sent to UFA, you may sign them at their QO

Like if you agree!!!


This is a stupid rule.
I am going back to the bar.
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Jun. 13 at 10:59 a.m.
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Edmonton Oilers
Willing to move 2022 picks for 2023 picks
Jun. 13 at 11:20 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
So it seems that a lot of people are in agreement that we should use IrL deals for RFAs. Consensus seems to be to remove all RFA signings that have happened and start the IrL immediately. If a player doesn’t have an IRL deal then the GM can QO them until an IRL deal happens.


Quoting: Gronk
Alright so rule proposal

All in game RFA extentions will be matched to their IRL deals, regardless of any trade/holdout

If a player holds out, you may not ice them in your lineup

If a player does not get QO’d and gets sent to UFA, you may sign them at their QO

Like if you agree!!!


i dont particularly care one way or the other here... but how can you use the IRL rfa signings and then go into free agency and use that a completely different "offer/lottery" system. also... shouldnt all this stuff be formally voted? did i miss that? with a designated pass/fail %? I get having bad deals on the books isnt a good look. some gms are better at negotiating than others. some gms are too cheap as well. and tbh no bog member wants to negotiate deals. its a good chunk of time if you actually accurately analyze all players. but if youre going to alter the scape of how the game is done/ran etc. that should probably be held to a league wide vote.
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Jun. 14 at 9:20 p.m.
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I've been fired again
I think it's in my interest to take a loooong break from the GM Game.
If Someone is really interested in my services, contact me on Twitter @Habs_Expert
If not, Goodbye!
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Jun. 14 at 9:50 p.m.
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I've been fired again
Goodbye!


Say less - You know my @
Jun. 15 at 5:33 p.m.
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Anaheim Ducks

The v5 Anaheim Ducks have relieved Dallas Eakins, Newell Brown, Mike Strothers, Geoff Ward and Sudarshan Maharaj of their coaching duties.

Spencer Carbery has been named the club's new head coach, while Claude Julien has been named associate head coach. Eric Wellwood, Ryan Warsofsky, Dave Barr, and Thomas Speer will serve as assistant coaches for this upcoming season.
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