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Stacking up with big trades

Created by: Bigcheese
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 28, 2021
Published: Sep. 28, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Tkachuk, Brady8$8,500,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir ($1,250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
If tarasenko plays over 70 games sens give up 2022 3rd
STL
  1. Sokolov, Egor
  2. Tierney, Chris
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
2.
OTT
  1. Hertl, Tomas
SJS
  1. Thomson, Lassi
  2. Watson, Austin
  3. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
If hertl signs extension sanjose gets ottawas 2023 2nd
Buyouts
  • Bobby Ryan: $3,583,333
  • Dion Phaneuf: $354,167
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
OTT
OTT
OTT
BOS
VAN
OTT
OTT
OTT
NYI
SJS
2023
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
NSH
2024
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$75,205,000$0$4,507,500$6,295,000
Left WingCenterRight Wing
OTT
Tkachuk, Brady
$8,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 7
SJS
Hertl, Tomas
$5,625,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Tarasenko, Vladimir
$6,250,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
OTT
Stützle, Tim
$925,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
OTT
Batherson, Drake
$4,975,000
RW, C
UFA - 6
OTT
Norris, Joshua
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
OTT
Brown, Connor
$3,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
OTT
Pinto, Shane
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
OTT
White, Colin
$4,750,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
OTT
Sanford, Zachary
$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
OTT
Paul, Nicholas
$1,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
OTT
Greig, Ridly
$894,167
LW
RFA - 3
OTT
Formenton, Alex
$747,500
LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
OTT
Chabot, Thomas
$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 7
OTT
Zaitsev, Nikita
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
OTT
Murray, Matt
$6,250,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
OTT
Brännström, Erik
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
OTT
Zub, Artem
$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
OTT
Gustavsson, Filip
$787,500
G
RFA - 2
OTT
Holden, Nick
$1,700,000
LD
UFA - 1
OTT
Brown, Joshua
$1,200,000
RD
UFA - 1
OTT
Del Zotto, Michael
$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
OTT
Mete, Victor
$1,200,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
OTT
Bishop, Clark
$800,000
C
RFA - 1

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Sep. 28 at 6:19 p.m.
#1
Ben Jimmings foe
Joined: Feb. 2019
Posts: 2,522
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The fact is that this is still probably not a playoff team
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Sep. 28 at 6:25 p.m.
#2
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 12,375
Likes: 7,725
No way does it make sense to trade Sokolov at this stage
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Sep. 28 at 6:30 p.m.
#3
Joined: Jan. 2020
Posts: 4,479
Likes: 2,409
I honestly am not sure I see the Sharks passing on this. '22 1st rounder would be nicer though if you plan to be good this season anyway.
Sep. 28 at 6:31 p.m.
#4
sensonfire
Joined: Feb. 2021
Posts: 4,638
Likes: 1,513
1. Tarasenko is not waiving his NTC for Ottawa.


2. It is now illegal to use extensions as a condition for acquiring draft picks, per NHL rules.


3. I doubt Ottawa is on Hertl's 3 team trade list.
Sep. 28 at 6:54 p.m.
#5
Joined: Aug. 2019
Posts: 398
Likes: 179
Hard no on all Trades, I would have looked at Tarensanko for L Brown and a pick to take a chance on him.
Sep. 28 at 6:58 p.m.
#6
Hockey 1st Sens 2nd
Joined: Aug. 2016
Posts: 2,346
Likes: 959
Would love to see Ottawa get Hertl but I don't see us being on his destination list.
NO CHANCE I would trade Sokolov for Tarasenko. NOPE. Not even 1 for 1. Out of shape and doesn't care; bad combo.
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Sep. 28 at 7:25 p.m.
#7
Billy739
Joined: Dec. 2017
Posts: 4,840
Likes: 1,194
OTT best course is a trade and flip of Taresenko
He'll never go there but if OTT retaining got him on a contender he'd play ball

Retain 50% and grab a bundle from TBL who's lost some depth or WSH who has motivation to put Taresenko-Backstrom-Ovechkin on the PP
But most of all i think NYI would give up Bellows and a pick to take Komorov allowing them to take on Taresenko at 50% RS
NYI is the main team that keeps circling around to STL making it more believable
Sep. 28 at 9:17 p.m.
#8
mokumboi
Joined: Apr. 2019
Posts: 9,673
Likes: 3,092
Quoting: TCMonkey
Out of shape and doesn't care


Ehh what are you on about?
Sep. 29 at 9:42 a.m.
#9
Hockey 1st Sens 2nd
Joined: Aug. 2016
Posts: 2,346
Likes: 959
Quoting: mokumboi
Ehh what are you on about?


According to TSN Simmer and a few hockey media peeps on twitter, Tarasenko arrived at camp in phenomenal shape this year, but his fitness AND effort levels have been an ongoing issue in the past.
Sep. 29 at 9:54 a.m.
#10
mokumboi
Joined: Apr. 2019
Posts: 9,673
Likes: 3,092
Quoting: TCMonkey
According to TSN Simmer and a few hockey media peeps on twitter, Tarasenko arrived at camp in phenomenal shape this year, but his fitness AND effort levels have been an ongoing issue in the past.


So in other words, the exact opposite of your initial remark. Gotcha.
Sep. 29 at 10:08 a.m.
#11
Hockey 1st Sens 2nd
Joined: Aug. 2016
Posts: 2,346
Likes: 959
Quoting: mokumboi
So in other words, the exact opposite of your initial remark. Gotcha.


You're right, all the best GMs ignore the history of a player known for coming to camp out of shape and playing hard when he choses to. It's the best guy to have in the room to teach the kids.
Sep. 29 at 12:10 p.m.
#12
mokumboi
Joined: Apr. 2019
Posts: 9,673
Likes: 3,092
Quoting: TCMonkey
You're right, all the best GMs ignore the history of a player known for coming to camp out of shape and playing hard when he choses to. It's the best guy to have in the room to teach the kids.


Need any help moving those goalposts? tears of joy
Sep. 29 at 12:48 p.m.
#13
Hockey 1st Sens 2nd
Joined: Aug. 2016
Posts: 2,346
Likes: 959
Quoting: mokumboi
Need any help moving those goalposts? tears of joy


I was speaking of his reputation. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. It's been talked about quite a bit on twitter this offseason.
 
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