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Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:06 p.m.
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He was a teenager LOL


He was 21.

Zegras was the teenager, last year, when he scored at a higher rate in the NHL than Kravtsov did in the KHL.
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:09 p.m.
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Same old tired list being recycled over and over. Many of those guys will not even make their teams.


That's cause they are the cream of the crop, there are no better players. Lundqvist is a good young D man and MAYBE, MAYBE makes the top 20! Kravstov is more along the lines of a top 50-100 not a top 10 and MOST DEFINITELY NOT FIRST!!!!
Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:09 p.m.
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He was 21.

Zegras was the teenager, last year, when he scored at a higher rate in the NHL than Kravtsov did in the KHL.


Krav was 19 when KHL season started
Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:12 p.m.
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Krav was 19 when KHL season started


That's crazy how he aged two years in one year.

He was 20 years old in September of 2020 when the last KHL season started.
He turned 21 years old in December of 2020, a few months after the KHL season started.
He is currently 21 years old.

These are basic, verifiable facts, courtesy of a simple Google search.
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.
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He was a teenager LOL


Well this statement right here tells me all I need to know about you. You don't even know how old your prospect is, yet you suggest that he "tore up the KHL" when he was not even in the top 50 in league scoring.
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:15 p.m.
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Based on what? his 2 shots and zero points in preseason so far?


You counting a game he played 5:44 in because of an injury?
Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:16 p.m.
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Well this statement right here tells me all I need to know about you. You don't even know how old your prospect is, yet you suggest that he "tore up the KHL" when he was not even in the top 50 in league scoring.


I got my math wrong. He started in KHL when he was 17 years old.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:18 p.m.
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Craig Button: Number 1 prospect in all of hockey --> Kravtsov

https://www.tsn.ca/russian-wingers-top-tsn-s-ranking-of-nhl-affiliated-prospects-1.1241872
Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:19 p.m.
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I got my math wrong. He started in KHL when he was 17 years old.


Kravstov finished 114th in league scoring last year, to put that into perspective Phil Varone finished 109th! Phil Varone is not even AHL quality anymore yet he beat the guy you say will win the Calder Trophy LMAO!
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:19 p.m.
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That's cause they are the cream of the crop, there are no better players. Lundqvist is a good young D man and MAYBE, MAYBE makes the top 20! Kravstov is more along the lines of a top 50-100 not a top 10 and MOST DEFINITELY NOT FIRST!!!!


https://www.tsn.ca/russian-wingers-top-tsn-s-ranking-of-nhl-affiliated-prospects-1.1241872

Numero uno. Ahead of Makar Necas Hughes etc
Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:20 p.m.
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Craig Button: Number 1 prospect in all of hockey --> Kravtsov

https://www.tsn.ca/russian-wingers-top-tsn-s-ranking-of-nhl-affiliated-prospects-1.1241872


LMAO BUTTON!!!! Now I really know you don't know much about hockey to listen to Button!
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:21 p.m.
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https://www.tsn.ca/russian-wingers-top-tsn-s-ranking-of-nhl-affiliated-prospects-1.1241872

Numero uno. Ahead of Makar Necas Hughes etc


NHL AFFILIATED not NHL PROSPECTS! There is a HUGE difference there.

Also you are quoting an article that was written in 2019 not 2021!
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:24 p.m.
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LMAO BUTTON!!!! Now I really know you don't know much about hockey to listen to Button!


So I should listen to Steve Ellis at the Hockey News over Button, a former GM? This is why I made my list. Its mine.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:25 p.m.
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https://www.tsn.ca/russian-wingers-top-tsn-s-ranking-of-nhl-affiliated-prospects-1.1241872

Numero uno. Ahead of Makar Necas Hughes etc


That's a three year old article
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:27 p.m.
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So I should listen to Steve Ellis at the Hockey News over Button, a former GM? This is why I made my list. Its mine.


Your article is 3 years old! Here is Button's rankings for this year

https://www.tsn.ca/detroit-red-wings-blue-chippers-montreal-canadiens-cole-caufield-headline-top-75-prospects-list-1.1617205

Kravstov is 16th BTW! Try to keep up with the times!
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.
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Your article is 3 years old! Here is Button's rankings for this year

https://www.tsn.ca/detroit-red-wings-blue-chippers-montreal-canadiens-cole-caufield-headline-top-75-prospects-list-1.1617205

Kravstov is 16th BTW! Try to keep up with the times!


Was number 1 and has only gotten bigger, faster, better since. Just shows you how bad these lists are.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:37 p.m.
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Was number 1 and has only gotten bigger, faster, better since. Just shows you how bad these lists are.


You just tried using this list to prove your point, now these lists are bad?
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:38 p.m.
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Was number 1 and has only gotten bigger, faster, better since. Just shows you how bad these lists are.


You were the one quoting the lists, make up your mind are you going to use Button's lists or are you going to use the ACTUAL rankings from Sports Illustrated's Hockey News? You just have to admit that your rankings are so biased that you can't tell the difference between real talent and perceived talent.
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.
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You just tried using this list to prove your point, now these lists are bad?


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You were the one quoting the lists, make up your mind are you going to use Button's lists or are you going to use the ACTUAL rankings from Sports Illustrated's Hockey News? You just have to admit that your rankings are so biased that you can't tell the difference between real talent and perceived talent.


What is the point of posting my list if I am supposed to copy a list from THN? I generally think many of the public prospect rankings tend to favor big market team prospects and underrate Euro prospects that don't play in SHL or Liiga. And they are just snapshots in time. My point in posting that list was to respond a comment about Kravtsov being outside top-20. Well, he certainly hasn't gotten worse since that list was posted.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:51 p.m.
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What is the point of posting my list if I am supposed to copy a list from THN? I generally think many of the public prospect rankings tend to favor big market team prospects and underrate Euro prospects that don't play in SHL or Liiga. And they are just snapshots in time. My point in posting that list was to respond a comment about Kravtsov being outside top-20. Well, he certainly hasn't gotten worse since that list was posted.


Nobody said he got worse just that he didn't get much better while the competition did get better. 3 years ago None of the current top 10 were even drafted and 3 years from now the top 10 will also be much different. NYR are a large market team, in fact they are the LARGEST market team out there grossing 1.65 Billion per year, followed by Toronto, Montreal, Chicago and Boston. You are out of arguments and have been proved wrong at every turn time to give up and move on.
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 4:58 p.m.
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Nobody said he got worse just that he didn't get much better while the competition did get better. 3 years ago None of the current top 10 were even drafted and 3 years from now the top 10 will also be much different. NYR are a large market team, in fact they are the LARGEST market team out there grossing 1.65 Billion per year, followed by Toronto, Montreal, Chicago and Boston. You are out of arguments and have been proved wrong at every turn time to give up and move on.


Tell you what. You keep on thinking THN makes "ACTUAL RANKINGS" and I'll think for myself. Ok?
Oct. 5, 2021 at 7:08 p.m.
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4 points in 20 games LOL
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 7:37 p.m.
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4 points in 20 games LOL


Come on now he is better than Gretzky, McDavid and Crosby all rolled into one and is basically a one man hockey team.
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Oct. 12, 2021 at 12:33 p.m.
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Well this didn't age well
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Oct. 12, 2021 at 12:38 p.m.
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Just wanted to comment on this post after todays news wink
 
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