Lol what is this. Start with Holloway and a 1st, then we’ll talk

So Brady should make 6 million x 3 playing for Edmonton.

While Matthew makes 7 million x 3 play for Calgary.

Gotcha.

A bunch of scrubs for Brady, Yeah that's not happening. And no freaking way he's signing for 3 x $6,000,000 needs to be more then that.

If discussing trades with the Senators, Tkachuk is not the player I'd target.

Agreed, if I'm the Oilers, I want Zub, Paul, or Mete.

Who were u thinking ?

And Nurse gets a 4m raise nest season. Where is the cap coming. Tkachuk isn't signing that contract. Even the Sens will offer more.

3x6M is a pretty good bet on yourself to pump your stats playing with McDavid and Draisaitl before cashing in next contract. If he sees himself as a p/g player and $10Mx8, that's one way to make it happen.

"During that time Kassian and Turris prove that their strong pre-season play can carry over to the regular season, making them at least worth their contracts (not cap dumps as many people's knee jerk reaction will be). They aren't tge main assets in the trade, but useful players included for cap purposes."

52 words for nothing because there is no chance that Turris works for Eugene Melnyk ever again. I think it's as likely as me becoming the next pope. Forget Zack Kassian too, not a contract the Sens will want.

Ottawa wouldn't be interested in this trade at all.

Rather than Tkachuk, I'd target Chabot. The reality is that Edmonton can't afford the asking price or salary for either. If they could, I'd have no problem starting discussions with an offer of Broberg, Lavoie, and a draft pick.

For a perennial 45-point winger with a vastly outsized ego and big contract expectations? Nah. Holloway has more value that that.

Matthew was 21 when he signed that and was coming off a 34-goal, 77-point season. He isn't even close to a comp for Brady.

I'd vote for you.

And Turris doesn't get to choose who he works for.

A good prospect + a 1st + a 2nd is the trade. The others were just included for cap purposes.


He's not worth a dime more, despite what his Dad and brother say.

Chabot? Not needed with Nurse, Samorukov and Broberg in the fold. And Barrie soaking up the PP time on a cheap deal with Bouchard tabbed to be the next QB. More is always better but cap isn't unlimited.

45 when he was on pace for 55pts this year playing with basically 2 rookies. Yeah sure

82 game pace:

Year 1: 25-27-52 [0.63 P/GP]
Year 2: 24-27-51 [0.62 P/GP]
Year 3: 25-28-53 [0.64 P/GP]

I'm not seeing ANY progression. Most RFA's hold their team's for ransom based on future value, but Brady doesn't have much leverage there. Look at Matthew Tkachuk's 82-game pace numbers:

Year 1: 14-38-52 [0.63 P/GP]
Year 2: 29-30-59 [0.72 P/GP]
Year 3: 35-44-79 [0.96 P/GP]

See the progression? There's no way for you to logically argue that Brady is worth as much as Matthew at the same point in his career.


To be totally fair lets look at each player's 5v5 IPP, which gives you an idea how much they are contributing to their line:

Brady
Year 1: 68.09
Year 2: 69.57
Year 3: 66.67

Matthew
Year 1: 71.11
Year 2: 72.22
Year 3: 73.21

Yeah, you can't use the whole "dragging two rookies around the ice" excuse - Brady did less to contribute to his linemates scoring than Matthew did at the same age.

Gaudreau and Monahan have put up 70+ easy, that’s who Tkachuk was playing with heck even on the PP. Now tell me who on the Sens was putting up points? Brady would’ve had less pts the first year if he wasn’t playing with Stone for 3/4 of the season. White finished with 41, both products of Stone. So yes he was improving.

His IPP proves otherwise. His contributions to his line's scoring actually went down this past season - and they weren't high to begin with.

@Banks @CapFriendly

For some reason I didn't receive notifications when people posted on this AGM originally. I've noticed this happening sporadically when I post an AGM - I get notifications for some but not all, but on this one I don't believe I saw any. I never fail to receive notifications when someone quotes me, it's just when I've posted an AGM.

Not sure if others have experienced this problem, perhaps they could comment if they do.

Not only the Sens would never look to acquire Kyle Turris (Dorion is not the greatest GM but he's not crazy, he knows Melnyk) but Turris would never report and probably retire instead. Anyway, he's very close to the end of the road.

That's fine then. I only included him for cap purposes, if he decides not to report then everyone should be happy.

In case you are curious and didn't read this story before :

https://www.bardown.com/julie-turris-used-one-word-to-throw-shade-on-sens-explanation-of-the-kyle-turris-trade-1.943661

Keep in mind that most billionaires are going to have gigantic egos, then there's Mr. Melnyk so that's why he would never approve Turris being back here

lol

Agreed, however the premise of this AGM is unrealistic to begin with. Acquiring Chabot would likely cost Broberg+, and advance the Oiler timeframe by at least one-to-two seasons. Even in the fairytale world of Capfriendly; if dealing with Ottawa, it would make more sense for Edmonton to build up a world-class defense before adding to what is likely already a world-class top six forward group.