Quoting: Shibbal18
Zuccarello is an expensive, declining asset, Mitts has shown he can be a decent middle 6 center (he was on pace for 20 goals and 44 points over 82 on the 19-20 Sabres) that costs 1/3rd of what Zucc costs and Minnesota needs to shave cap and needs centers, all it costs them is a mid to late 2nd, which is fair value for Mitts. I imagine youre the only person that could overrate Zuccarello this much while also completely underrating Mittelstadt by the same margin
Quoting: drmantalban
I don’t think Zucc is negative value, but I also think it’s a complex situation because of the buyouts. The opportunity cost of keeping Zucc seems to be losing Fiala. At least I haven’t found a very viable way to keep both, but I’m open to suggestions on that. Thats kinda the assumption I’m operating under, and if that’s the case, I’m choosing Fiala 10/10. Which means you gotta move Zucc.
Re: trading Zucc, no team is going to swap a Mitts type player for Zucc 1-1. That just isn’t happening, I don’t care if Zucc is the better player today, he’s aging and he’s expensive.
How much do you think Zucc can reasonably return if traded as the only piece going out?
Zuccarello is overpaid by no more than $1-1.5M. Which realistically isn't that much for the production he brings. And while he
is a declining asset, he should still be productive for the majority of the remainder of his contract. With only that last year of his contract of real concern.
That doesn't make him a negative asset that requires and costs us to ship out a high draft pick in order to move him. Far from it. He has positive value in his own right, likely a 2nd rounder. Sound familiar?
I also am not trying to undervalue Mittelstadt either. I like what he did last year. But that doesn't erase the fact that his value was non-existant going into last season and that it should be considered a compliment that I think he warrants a 2nd round pick back for him as well. If Mitts has another stellar year again this year, just like last year. Then, yes, he should be worth more than Zuccarello... at that point. But until then, it's an overpay.
It's ridiculous to ask for a 2nd round pick on top of a top-six winger in Zuccarello who was on pace for 60+points in exchange for a lone middle-six center who was on pace for 40+ points. That's roughly a 20 point differential, and loss... on our part.
So I don't see any reason why we should be paying you the better player and assets for a loss of production that significant.
Do you?