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    Oct. 10, 2021 at 7:21 p.m.
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    Hamonic may not even report and you have Geertsen scratched/can call up someone.
    Oct. 10, 2021 at 7:26 p.m.
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    He's not vaccinated apparently
    We've got enough of that currently
    Oct. 10, 2021 at 7:50 p.m.
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    canucks accept
    Oct. 10, 2021 at 8:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: Smitty426
    He's not vaccinated apparently
    We've got enough of that currently


    Only means he cannot play in Canada for time being
    He can play throughout our division.

    And would really only be taking Jaros’ spot.
    Oct. 10, 2021 at 8:35 p.m.
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    Shouldn't be waiver claiming a 3m player.....who is indecisive whether he want to play.
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    Oct. 10, 2021 at 8:39 p.m.
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    Shouldn't be waiver claiming a 3m player.....who is indecisive whether he want to play.


    He is good enough that he ought to be claimed…if he wants to play. It’s not the $3m I would balk at, it’s the “may retire” part. Went down that road with Corey Crawford last year.
    Oct. 10, 2021 at 8:44 p.m.
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    Only means he cannot play in Canada for time being
    He can play throughout our division.

    And would really only be taking Jaros’ spot.


    How bout getting players who can play all games, tired of all the, well its ok if..
    Its good until one of these guys needs to be counted on.
    Benier goes down with any injury just before the Canadian trip now what? Play by the rules eveyone else is or sit out the season, enough!
    Oct. 10, 2021 at 8:58 p.m.
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    How bout getting players who can play all games, tired of all the, well its ok if..
    Its good until one of these guys needs to be counted on.
    Benier goes down with any injury just before the Canadian trip now what? Play by the rules eveyone else is or sit out the season, enough!


    Are we talking about Blackwood? I think he said he is getting vaccinated.

    And I could not disagree more on "play by the rules everyone else is or sit out".
    That just leads to more rules. Less freedom.

    I am vaccinated. I hope everyone gets vaccinated.
    But forcing people to make medical decisions is just about the worst possible option.

    Whatever the outcome, I hope Devils ice a full-team for a full-season.
    Oct. 10, 2021 at 9:47 p.m.
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    He is good enough that he ought to be claimed…if he wants to play. It’s not the $3m I would balk at, it’s the “may retire” part. Went down that road with Corey Crawford last year.


    I agree Hamonic is good enough to be claimed but the Devils have some decent prospects at D now. I wanna see what Jaros/ Geertson can do; if they stink then roll with Bahl/ White/ Walsh/etc see if any of them are NHL ready to possibly replace Subban next/ this year.
    Oct. 10, 2021 at 10:54 p.m.
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    Are we talking about Blackwood? I think he said he is getting vaccinated.

    And I could not disagree more on "play by the rules everyone else is or sit out".
    That just leads to more rules. Less freedom.

    I am vaccinated. I hope everyone gets vaccinated.
    But forcing people to make medical decisions is just about the worst possible option.

    Whatever the outcome, I hope Devils ice a full-team for a full-season.


    No Hamonic has a similar stance as MB with regard to being vaxxed. Freedom? Im waiting nearly 18 months to do what i want (freedom) but I cant bc
    Of where we are with this thing. So I do my part to get it back there as quickky as possible
    Hes not being forced, he can find work elsewhere. Not in Canada and on many US teams, but thats his choice.
    Think of it like this, you tell your boss, im not going to work a good portion of March. He asks why, you say you dont agree with the HR policies on something. You then tell him, in May and June (our really busy time btw) theres a good chance you wont be coming in to work, because that same policy is really in effect and the other guy who does the same job can do it.
    Your boss has you walked to the curb with your desk in a box!
    Now add to that, you are helping to let this pandemic continue to stick around bc of whatever dumb reason you have.
    Did you have any say in being inoculated for these:
    Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Polio, Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR); Chickenpox, Influenza?
    If you go into the service u get 18 shots, without a say! It's a pretty dumb argument to not try and be as healthy, safe and unselfish as you can, but no, freedom! Cause thats been working so far!
    Oct. 10, 2021 at 11:56 p.m.
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    No Hamonic has a similar stance as MB with regard to being vaxxed. Freedom? Im waiting nearly 18 months to do what i want (freedom) but I cant bc
    Of where we are with this thing. So I do my part to get it back there as quickky as possible
    Hes not being forced, he can find work elsewhere. Not in Canada and on many US teams, but thats his choice.
    Think of it like this, you tell your boss, im not going to work a good portion of March. He asks why, you say you dont agree with the HR policies on something. You then tell him, in May and June (our really busy time btw) theres a good chance you wont be coming in to work, because that same policy is really in effect and the other guy who does the same job can do it.
    Your boss has you walked to the curb with your desk in a box!
    Now add to that, you are helping to let this pandemic continue to stick around bc of whatever dumb reason you have.
    Did you have any say in being inoculated for these:
    Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Polio, Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR); Chickenpox, Influenza?
    If you go into the service u get 18 shots, without a say! It's a pretty dumb argument to not try and be as healthy, safe and unselfish as you can, but no, freedom! Cause thats been working so far!


    Hard to blame the pandemic on freedom.

    And I think too many people miss the point here.
    Everyone who is eligible should be vaccinated.

    But if we accept forced medical decisions, it will make life worse for everyone in long-term. If the decision-makers will be making decisions for betterment of the collective, it will often come at the expense of the individual.
    Oct. 11, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.
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    Hard to blame the pandemic on freedom.
    Debateable!

    And I think too many people miss the point here.
    Everyone who is eligible should be vaccinated.
    Who is not eligible?

    But if we accept forced medical decisions, it will make life worse for everyone in long-term. If the decision-makers will be making decisions for betterment of the collective, it will often come at the expense of the individual.

    Again, you were given a handful of innoculations as a kid to keep you and the public from catching these diseases. Not too many cases of polio today, guess why we were all given a shot, nothing political nefarious, not a conspiracy, just good public safety.
    Im glad you got the shot, my beefs not with you.
    Oct. 11, 2021 at 5:30 a.m.
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    Only means he cannot play in Canada for time being
    He can play throughout our division.

    And would really only be taking Jaros’ spot.


    Quoting: Smitty426
    How bout getting players who can play all games, tired of all the, well its ok if..
    Its good until one of these guys needs to be counted on.
    Benier goes down with any injury just before the Canadian trip now what? Play by the rules eveyone else is or sit out the season, enough!


    I just had a look at the schedule and Devils are playing a total of two (2!) games in Canada up until 15th of January and they're not back-to-back. I think this makes the Covid restrictions a mute point in regards to Hammonic and Blackwood in the short-term as well as overall given that Severson is returning from injury sooner or later and MB is at least considering getting vaccinated as of now.

    Perhaps the border is a main issue for Hammonic not wanting to play with Vancouver as he'd forfeit so much of his wages with that organization.
    This would be alleviated if he were to report to NJD due to our schedule. His contract is for two years so his 3m will not hurt the Devils in any way whatsoever.

    I say claim him.
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