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Kravtsov

Created by: MrDinkiee
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 12, 2021
Published: Oct. 12, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
NYR
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2024
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,063,116$0$1,250,000$436,884
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Ritchie, Nick
$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Kase, Ondrej
$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Mrázek, Petr
$3,800,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$1,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Amadio, Michael
$750,000
C, RW
RFA - 1

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Oct. 12, 2021 at 7:13 p.m.
#1
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He doesn't throw hits, you can stop your fantasizing already.
Oct. 12, 2021 at 7:13 p.m.
#2
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But why? What role does he fit in TO? He can't make the Rangers top 6, why would he immediately succeed in TO on a line where two other guys demand the puck on their stick all the time?
Oct. 12, 2021 at 7:14 p.m.
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Sweet Lou
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Quoting: Byrr
He doesn't throw hits, you can stop your fantasizing already.


I'm not thinking about hits, I'm thinking about his offensive threat and what he can be
Oct. 12, 2021 at 7:16 p.m.
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Sweet Lou
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
But why? What role does he fit in TO? He can't make the Rangers top 6, why would he immediately succeed in TO on a line where two other guys demand the puck on their stick all the time?


Creating a dangerous offensive line with Nylander and Tavares and we are replacing Amadio with him
Oct. 12, 2021 at 7:22 p.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
But why? What role does he fit in TO? He can't make the Rangers top 6, why would he immediately succeed in TO on a line where two other guys demand the puck on their stick all the time?


Bunting is a 4th liner who can play up, Ritchieis a middle 6 guy. Kravs would be perfect on the top scoring line. He can’t make our top 6 because we actually have 6 players there. Every fan thinks this is a massive mistake after watching him play preseason and last season, you don’t need to read between the lines here.
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Oct. 12, 2021 at 7:47 p.m.
#6
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In general i think that rangers fans overvalue their prospects like crazy. They’re going to be right in saying this isn’t even in the right stratosphere. I think you’re more than a first rounder off
Oct. 12, 2021 at 8:42 p.m.
#7
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Posts: 14,209
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Kravtsov declines
Oct. 12, 2021 at 10:24 p.m.
#8
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Quoting: MrDinkiee
Creating a dangerous offensive line with Nylander and Tavares and we are replacing Amadio with him


Engvall has produced more than him
Oct. 13, 2021 at 6:39 a.m.
#9
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Quoting: NYR1983
Bunting is a 4th liner who can play up, Ritchieis a middle 6 guy. Kravs would be perfect on the top scoring line. He can’t make our top 6 because we actually have 6 players there. Every fan thinks this is a massive mistake after watching him play preseason and last season, you don’t need to read between the lines here.


This sounds exactly how you Ranger fans talked about Lias Anderson.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 8:31 a.m.
#10
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
This sounds exactly how you Ranger fans talked about Lias Anderson.


Hahaha ok bud. Bunting the 1st liner it is. Or maybe amadio up there. Good luck to your season
Oct. 13, 2021 at 10:15 a.m.
#11
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Quoting: NYR1983
Hahaha ok bud. Bunting the 1st liner it is. Or maybe amadio up there. Good luck to your season


Who cares, Matthews and Marner made Hyman 5.5 million. Whoever plays in the top 6 will be fine
Oct. 13, 2021 at 10:22 a.m.
#12
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Who cares, Matthews and Marner made Hyman 5.5 million. Whoever plays in the top 6 will be fine


Hyman did none of the work eh.. all AM and MM doing 😂. Great take. Jumbo, kerfoot, vessey all failed there but ok
Oct. 13, 2021 at 3:13 p.m.
#13
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Quoting: NYR1983
Hyman did none of the work eh.. all AM and MM doing 😂. Great take. Jumbo, kerfoot, vessey all failed there but ok


They made Jumbo a point a game player and Vessey and Kerfoot didn't really play there. Galchenyuk did well for a few games as did Simmonds for a couple games before getting hurt. All the while Matthews scored 41 in 52 games with a hurt wrist. They don't need a young player who can't crack the lineup on an inferior team
Oct. 13, 2021 at 7:22 p.m.
#14
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
They made Jumbo a point a game player and Vessey and Kerfoot didn't really play there. Galchenyuk did well for a few games as did Simmonds for a couple games before getting hurt. All the while Matthews scored 41 in 52 games with a hurt wrist. They don't need a young player who can't crack the lineup on an inferior team


Great, sounds like a few guys will get in the rotation of 10-15 games there.. that line really made jumbos career, he was never a point a game before them
Oct. 13, 2021 at 8:37 p.m.
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Quoting: NYR1983
Great, sounds like a few guys will get in the rotation of 10-15 games there.. that line really made jumbos career, he was never a point a game before them


Come on dude, Jumbo is awesome but he's well past being a ppg player. And yet Matthews and Marner made it happen.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 9:21 p.m.
#16
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Come on dude, Jumbo is awesome but he's well past being a ppg player. And yet Matthews and Marner made it happen.


All good bud, they are great players but you’re quite obviously biased. While it’s been reported that many teams are interested in Kravs and it’s looking like a top 6 player in return… you would prefer bunting on the top line. Don’t really need to discuss this any further as the 2 players are clearly not on the same level.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 10:35 p.m.
#17
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Quoting: NYR1983
All good bud, they are great players but you’re quite obviously biased. While it’s been reported that many teams are interested in Kravs and it’s looking like a top 6 player in return… you would prefer bunting on the top line. Don’t really need to discuss this any further as the 2 players are clearly not on the same level.


Yeah I have a bias but I also just don't see why TO would trade for him. They don't need him
Oct. 13, 2021 at 11:07 p.m.
#18
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Yeah I have a bias but I also just don't see why TO would trade for him. They don't need him


You’re right! The leafs have had amazing seasons the last few years. I’m sure they will repeat what they did last year and the year before that
Oct. 14, 2021 at 7:03 a.m.
#19
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Quoting: NYR1983
You’re right! The leafs have had amazing seasons the last few years. I’m sure they will repeat what they did last year and the year before that


Come on, try to have a reasonable conversation. Lashing out with the tired old, "they haven't won a round bull****" is just boring and weak. Do you honestly think a kid who can't make your lineup is somehow going to push TO over the top? This is a dumb conversation now.
Oct. 14, 2021 at 8:38 a.m.
#20
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Come on, try to have a reasonable conversation. Lashing out with the tired old, "they haven't won a round bull****" is just boring and weak. Do you honestly think a kid who can't make your lineup is somehow going to push TO over the top? This is a dumb conversation now.


No, it’s going to take 6 players to put TO over the top. Kravs would be 1 of the 6. I never said he alone would make you guys a serious contender
Oct. 14, 2021 at 10:32 a.m.
#21
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Quoting: NYR1983
No, it’s going to take 6 players to put TO over the top. Kravs would be 1 of the 6. I never said he alone would make you guys a serious contender


He would just be another depth guy in TO, he's not good enough for the Rangers and not good enough for TO
Oct. 14, 2021 at 10:40 a.m.
#22
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Aside from Reaves who is there for a specific reason. Bunting and amadio aren’t better than any of our wingers(maybe including Reaves but let’s now digress). while TO has the higher end elite talent they lack actual depth. Dubas is closing his eyes and throwing darts, hoping that 1 or 2 of them stick. I can’t help but laugh at every leaf fan I know who can’t see this.
 
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