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Oct. 12, 2021 at 10:06 p.m.
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Dude, this isn't even close to enough. Hagel is the prize. You can't just slip that in. Standard quality vs quantity trade.
Oct. 12, 2021 at 10:08 p.m.
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Dude, this isn't even close to enough. Hagel is the prize. You can't just slip that in. Standard quality vs quantity trade.


i didnt think either of strome or hagel were that good lol
Oct. 12, 2021 at 10:09 p.m.
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You'd have to add significantly to get 3 years of Hagel at $1.5M per, the kid is a stud.
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Oct. 12, 2021 at 10:11 p.m.
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You'd have to add significantly to get 3 years of Hagel at $1.5M per, the kid is a stud.


kerfoot, 1st and engvall or anderson for strome and hagel?
Oct. 12, 2021 at 10:15 p.m.
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Wow. I mean just wow.
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Oct. 12, 2021 at 10:17 p.m.
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love the idea of having these guys, not enough though, Engvall is an okay player but he doesn't add much to the value, kerfoot makes sense, Abramov is a really good prospect and anderson dosent add much value either. maybe try 2022 1st Kerfoot Abramov and add in a guy like SDA and that might get it done, MIGHT
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Oct. 12, 2021 at 10:51 p.m.
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Looks like everything has already been said. So I'll be contrarian and say CHI accepts! That trade solidifies cup contention. tears of joy
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Oct. 12, 2021 at 10:53 p.m.
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I wouldn't trade hagel by himself for that pile of crap, so don't even think about adding strome too. Hagel is a stud
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Oct. 12, 2021 at 11:05 p.m.
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I wouldn't trade hagel by himself for that pile of crap, so don't even think about adding strome too. Hagel is a stud


hagel is THAT good?
Oct. 12, 2021 at 11:09 p.m.
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hagel is THAT good?


yes
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Oct. 12, 2021 at 11:44 p.m.
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hagel is THAT good?


Extremely fast, amazing forechecker, fearless, defensively solid plus he was a rookie last year which amount to a half season of games.
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Oct. 12, 2021 at 11:51 p.m.
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Actually it's pretty fair trade. If the Hawks think Hagel has good contract value and room for improvement, yea I can see them saying no. But geez adding Joey Anderson sorta takes away some of the trade credibility. Why is an AHLer and a Chicago sixth rounder included?
Oct. 13, 2021 at 12:49 a.m.
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Wow. I mean just wow.


Clearly you were not sufficiently desensitized by the Habs posts from earlier...
Oct. 13, 2021 at 1:09 a.m.
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Clearly you were not sufficiently desensitized by the Habs posts from earlier...


It’s the inclusion of Hagel that did it for me. I’m used to being offered junk for Strome, but now they are also trying to get Hagel back? Ooof
Oct. 13, 2021 at 6:44 a.m.
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Quoting: NickC1988
You'd have to add significantly to get 3 years of Hagel at $1.5M per, the kid is a stud.


What constitutes a "stud" on this site never ceases to amaze me. Sure a trade that doesn't really do anything for Chicago but going overboard never wins an argument.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 11:35 a.m.
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Actually it's pretty fair trade. If the Hawks think Hagel has good contract value and room for improvement, yea I can see them saying no. But geez adding Joey Anderson sorta takes away some of the trade credibility. Why is an AHLer and a Chicago sixth rounder included?


AHL player? Who?

Hagel > Anderson
Strome > Kerfoot

Engvall has little to no value to the Hawks. Abramov ends up being the value that would have to tip the scales of balance in the trade for Chicago since Hagel and Strome are clearly better then Anderson and Kerfoot. While a good prospect, hard to say how he will do in the NHL. If he ends up a bottom 6 player, and 40 points or less, then this is a bad trade for Chicago.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 1:42 p.m.
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AHL player? Who?

Hagel > Anderson
Strome > Kerfoot

Engvall has little to no value to the Hawks. Abramov ends up being the value that would have to tip the scales of balance in the trade for Chicago since Hagel and Strome are clearly better then Anderson and Kerfoot. While a good prospect, hard to say how he will do in the NHL. If he ends up a bottom 6 player, and 40 points or less, then this is a bad trade for Chicago.


Don't know why you say Engvall has no value to the Hawks. His offensive stats aren't similar to both Strome and Johnson who make 3,0 and 5,0m, and Engvall makes 1.2m. But if the Hawks want to pay those two guys, Engvall money, so be it.
It's an Engvall, Kerfoot and Abramov for Strome and Hagel. Ok I get the Hawks don't want to trade Hagel but geez the the trade isn't one sided at all.
It's Anderson is the AHLer...so there is no value for him included in the trade.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 1:44 p.m.
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What constitutes a "stud" on this site never ceases to amaze me. Sure a trade that doesn't really do anything for Chicago but going overboard never wins an argument.


By the end of this season, he'll have arguably the best contract in the league and many will realize it.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 3:14 p.m.
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By the end of this season, he'll have arguably the best contract in the league and many will realize it.


Optimistic to put it nicely
Oct. 13, 2021 at 4:04 p.m.
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Don't know why you say Engvall has no value to the Hawks. His offensive stats aren't similar to both Strome and Johnson who make 3,0 and 5,0m, and Engvall makes 1.2m. But if the Hawks want to pay those two guys, Engvall money, so be it.
It's an Engvall, Kerfoot and Abramov for Strome and Hagel. Ok I get the Hawks don't want to trade Hagel but geez the the trade isn't one sided at all.
It's Anderson is the AHLer...so there is no value for him included in the trade.


Career Stats:
Dylan Strome age 24, GP = 204, PPG = .60
Pierre Envall age 25, GP = 90, PPG = .30

Clearly Strome, 1 year younger, has produced a double the rate offensively in more then twice as many games then Engvall...it's not close to same they are similar so not sure why you made that comment. Further, Strome had a dismal season last year largely due to a undiagnosed concussion that once diagnosed kept him out of the lineup for a couple weeks plus.

Tyler Johnson age 31, GP = 589, PPG = .61

Again not close to Engvall career wise, that said he was in a reduced role in Tampa as a 4th liner the last 2 years not because Johnson wasn't producing at a .6ppg rate prior but because Tampa was/is so good they simply have younger better players ahead of him on the depth chart; they won back to back cups for good reason.

Bottom line, Engvall is not interesting other then a bottom 6 depth role player which are easy to find in the NHL; a .30ppg player.

Hagel > Engvall
Strome > Kerfoot


Abramov and Anderson I'm not sure tips the scales to make sense for the Hawks.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 5:04 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Career Stats:
Dylan Strome age 24, GP = 204, PPG = .60
Pierre Envall age 25, GP = 90, PPG = .30

Clearly Strome, 1 year younger, has produced a double the rate offensively in more then twice as many games then Engvall...it's not close to same they are similar so not sure why you made that comment. Further, Strome had a dismal season last year largely due to a undiagnosed concussion that once diagnosed kept him out of the lineup for a couple weeks plus.

Tyler Johnson age 31, GP = 589, PPG = .61

Again not close to Engvall career wise, that said he was in a reduced role in Tampa as a 4th liner the last 2 years not because Johnson wasn't producing at a .6ppg rate prior but because Tampa was/is so good they simply have younger better players ahead of him on the depth chart; they won back to back cups for good reason.

Bottom line, Engvall is not interesting other then a bottom 6 depth role player which are easy to find in the NHL; a .30ppg player.

Hagel > Engvall
Strome > Kerfoot


Abramov and Anderson I'm not sure tips the scales to make sense for the Hawks.


I don't know why you didn't include Kerfoot in your stats. Kerfoot is certainly on a par with Strome. I certainly wasn't comparing Engvall to Strome
Engvall...yea he's 4th line winger/centre...,but he certainly OK and is fine value at 1.2m. Yea Hawks don't have room for him, but geez in the here and now he's a far better value than Johnson.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 5:29 p.m.
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I don't know why you didn't include Kerfoot in your stats. Kerfoot is certainly on a par with Strome. I certainly wasn't comparing Engvall to Strome
Engvall...yea he's 4th line winger/centre...,but he certainly OK and is fine value at 1.2m. Yea Hawks don't have room for him, but geez in the here and now he's a far better value than Johnson.


"Don't know why you say Engvall has no value to the Hawks. His offensive stats aren't similar to both Strome and Johnson who make 3,0 and 5,0m, and Engvall makes 1.2m. But if the Hawks want to pay those two guys, Engvall money, so be it."

Didn't quite understand your statement in quotes above so was responding to that.

Kerfoot is closer at .49ppg over his career but also 27 versus 24 for Strome and would take Strome easily over Kerfoot.

Johnson is playing top 6 with the intent to bring him back to his role in Tampa 3 seasons ago so not really a good comparison. Engvall as you said is a 4th liner. Hawks have cheaper guys on the 4th line that produce so no need for Engvall even at $1.2M. Carpenter is a better PK guy at $1M. Khaira is more physical at $900K. Entwistle and Guadette are younger, more physical, fast and potentially more upside and both under $900K.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 8:11 p.m.
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"Don't know why you say Engvall has no value to the Hawks. His offensive stats aren't similar to both Strome and Johnson who make 3,0 and 5,0m, and Engvall makes 1.2m. But if the Hawks want to pay those two guys, Engvall money, so be it."

Didn't quite understand your statement in quotes above so was responding to that.

Kerfoot is closer at .49ppg over his career but also 27 versus 24 for Strome and would take Strome easily over Kerfoot.

Johnson is playing top 6 with the intent to bring him back to his role in Tampa 3 seasons ago so not really a good comparison. Engvall as you said is a 4th liner. Hawks have cheaper guys on the 4th line that produce so no need for Engvall even at $1.2M. Carpenter is a better PK guy at $1M. Khaira is more physical at $900K. Entwistle and Guadette are younger, more physical, fast and potentially more upside and both under $900K.


Engvall was on the PP tonight (for some reason), I don't know if had five minutes last year. And he scored a goal, Johnson and Engvall from the fourth to second line...see what happens in next while.
 
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