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Are these fair

Created by: bonkey
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 13, 2021
Published: Oct. 13, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Buffalo Sabres
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Bordeleau, Thomas [Reserve List]
  2. Merkley, Ryan
  3. Hertl, Tomas
  4. 2022 1st round pick (SJS)
Additional Details:
San Jose gets to pick if the pick is 2022 or 2023 on the day of the NHL Draft
SJS
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Bryson, Jacob
2.
BUF
  1. Shaw, Andrew
  2. Reichel, Lukas
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (EDM)
CHI
  1. Hertl, Tomas ($2,812,500 retained)
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Tomas Hertl: $2,812,500 (50%)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$60,735,014$113,916$850,000$20,764,986
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 6
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Cozens, Dylan
$894,167
C, LW
RFA - 2
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Hinostroza, Vinnie
$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Olofsson, Victor
$3,050,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Mittelstadt, Casey
$2,500,000
C
RFA - 3
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Asplund, Rasmus
$825,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Bjork, Anders
$1,600,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Thompson, Tage
$1,400,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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Girgensons, Zemgus
$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Eakin, Cody
$2,250,000
C
UFA - 1
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Caggiula, Drake
$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Dahlin, Rasmus
$6,000,000
LD/RD
RFA - 3
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Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Anderson, Craig
$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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Butcher, Will
$2,822,764
LD
UFA - 1
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Jokiharju, Henri
$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 3
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Tokarski, Dustin
$725,000
G
UFA - 1
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Hägg, Robert
$1,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Pysyk, Mark
$900,000
RD, RW
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Fitzgerald, Casey
$750,000
RD
RFA - 2
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Shaw, Andrew
$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Ruotsalainen, Arttu
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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Hayden, John
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1

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Oct. 13, 2021 at 3:10 p.m.
#26
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Quoting: Shibbal18
The Sabres have 8 D men that are highly touted prospects or already NHLers under the age of 24. You think one of them couldnt flip sides to win an NHL spot or in Dahlin's case, go back to the right side. if they were concerned with RD depth they would have drafted one 3 months ago. That argument is stupid. They dont need to trade for a dman just because he holds the stick in his opposite hand


No sir, the argument that is stupid is that you think a 21 year old prospect has negative value. This is not about what Buffalo wants, this is about what San Jose is trading away to still finish bottom of the league.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 3:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No sir, the argument that is stupid is that you think a 21 year old prospect has negative value. This is not about what Buffalo wants, this is about what San Jose is trading away to still finish bottom of the league.


The Sabres trade away their franchise center, for a dman, that gets beat out by at least 4 of the Sabres prospects, then if the Sabres decide they dont want a d group with the average age of 22, he gets beat out by any UFA, then he sits in their system for a couple of years, never gets a shot in the nhl and is at best thrown away for a 3rd. Thats some negative value
Oct. 13, 2021 at 3:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
The Sabres trade away their franchise center, for a dman, that gets beat out by at least 4 of the Sabres prospects, then if the Sabres decide they dont want a d group with the average age of 22, he gets beat out by any UFA, then he sits in their system for a couple of years, never gets a shot in the nhl and is at best thrown away for a 3rd. Thats some negative value


Lol what???
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Oct. 13, 2021 at 3:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Lol what???


They are just practicing for gymnastics at the Olympics.
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Oct. 13, 2021 at 3:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Lol what???

Quoting: Klara
They are just practicing for gymnastics at the Olympics.


Dahlin Power Samuelsson and Jokiharju beat him out
so in your best case scenario, theyre trading for a 3rd pair dman.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 3:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Dahlin Power Samuelsson and Jokiharju beat him out
so in your best case scenario, theyre trading for a 3rd pair dman.


You really dont get this...

This is not about Buffalo, this is about how San Jose is mortgaging their future to capstrap thems3lv3s and still finish bottom 10 in the league
Oct. 13, 2021 at 3:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You really dont get this...

This is not about Buffalo, this is about how San Jose is mortgaging their future to capstrap thems3lv3s and still finish bottom 10 in the league

Was this not just your argument 30 minutes ago?:
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Just because you specifically dont want defense doesnt make them worthless

This is the point im arguing. The Sabres have no place for them, so for Buffalo, it does not add value to the trade. But since you asked: The worst thing in this trade for San Jose is the unprotected 1st, Eichel is a large upgrade over Bordeleau, Bryson is an NHLer now and has as much potential as Merkley if not more and better stats in his professional career and was drafted only a year prior to Merkley. So the cost to significantly upgrade both prospects into young NHLers is Hertl and an unprotected first
 
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