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Sens With Tkachuk and Kravtsov

Created by: KMarner34
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 13, 2021
Published: Oct. 13, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators
Free Agent Signings
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Tkachuk, Brady6$8,250,000
Trades
1.
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  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
NYR
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
  2. 2023 7th round pick (OTT)
Close to the Lias Andersson deal
2.
OTT
  1. 2023 5th round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Holden, Nick
Buyouts
  • Bobby Ryan: $3,583,333
  • Dion Phaneuf: $354,167
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nicholas Paul: $600,750 (45%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$62,612,500$0$5,357,500$18,887,500

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Tkachuk, Brady
$8,250,000
LW, C
UFA - 7
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Stützle, Tim
$925,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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Batherson, Drake
$4,975,000
RW
UFA - 6
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Paul, Nicholas
$749,250
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Norris, Joshua
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
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Brown, Connor
$3,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Sanford, Zachary
$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Pinto, Shane
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
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Kravtsov, Vitali
$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Formenton, Alex
$747,500
LW
RFA - 1
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Tierney, Chris
$3,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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Ennis, Tyler
$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Chabot, Thomas
$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 7
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Zaitsev, Nikita
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Murray, Matt
$6,250,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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Del Zotto, Michael
$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Zub, Artem
$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Gustavsson, Filip
$787,500
G
RFA - 2
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Brännström, Erik
$863,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Brown, Joshua
$1,200,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Shaw, Logan
$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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White, Colin
$4,750,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
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Kelly, Parker
$726,667
C, LW
RFA - 1
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Watson, Austin
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Mete, Victor
$1,200,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Forsberg, Anton
$900,000
G
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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Bernard-Docker, Jacob
$925,000 ($0)
RD
RFA - 2
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Sabourin, Scott
$750,000 ($0)
RW
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Batherson, D.
Norris, J.
Tkachuk, B.
Chabot, T.
Stützle, T.
Power Play 2
Brown, C.
Pinto, S.
Paul, N.
Zaitsev, N.
Kravtsov, V.
Penalty Kill 1
Tierney, C.
Brown, C.
Chabot, T.
Brown, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Paul, N.
Tkachuk, B.
Del Zotto, M.
Zub, A.

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Oct. 13, 2021 at 12:48 p.m.
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If I was an Ottawa fan I would be very displeased with Brady at anything over 7.
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Oct. 13, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.
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I think the Rangers trade is a fair deal.
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Oct. 13, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: AustonMatthews3443
If I was an Ottawa fan I would be very displeased with Brady at anything over 7.


It just seems that in order for him to sign a long-term deal, he wants at least $8M. If not, he wants a bridge-deal and that's why the two sides are arguing.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 12:50 p.m.
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Since our boneheaded organization burned Krav so badly, I'd love to see him given a chance to be a big contributor to an exciting young team like Ottawa.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: KMarner34
It just seems that in order for him to sign a long-term deal, he wants at least $8M. If not, he wants a bridge-deal and that's why the two sides are arguing.


Fair enough, I just do not understand how he thinks he's worth anything north of 7.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 1:20 p.m.
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Quoting: MauriceRichard1028
Since our boneheaded organization burned Krav so badly, I'd love to see him given a chance to be a big contributor to an exciting young team like Ottawa.


did they really burn him, or is he your typical Russian that doesn't work hard enough to earn his spot on the team?
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Oct. 13, 2021 at 1:20 p.m.
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Make it the sens 2nd round pick
Oct. 13, 2021 at 1:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
did they really burn him, or is he your typical Russian that doesn't work hard enough to earn his spot on the team?


No they burnt him
Oct. 13, 2021 at 1:34 p.m.
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1. If Kravtsov would be a good fit for Ottawa, then Tampa's 2nd is more than fair for him.


2. We'll be looking for a 3rd round pick for Holden.


3. Brady is not signing that.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 1:45 p.m.
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It's a fair contract for Brady, though I doubt if he signs it. I believe he wants UFA as soon as possible.
Why do so many think Kravtsov is an NHL player?
Oct. 13, 2021 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
did they really burn him, or is he your typical Russian that doesn't work hard enough to earn his spot on the team?


I'd agree with you in 2019 when he refused to report to Hartford, but not now. The Rangers traded one of their best forwards to make room for Krav and left him off the prospect camp roster because they felt he was ready, then turn around and cut him for Dryden Hunt.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 1:59 p.m.
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ohhh that lineup is horrible,

Del Zotto should only ever play if there is an injury he has been horrendous.
Formenton has proven he is a top 6 player, he in no way should ever be that low on the line-up, He could very well end up the first line RW even when Brady does come back.
Stuzle is not going to C any time soon if at all with the Play of Norris and Pinto.

I get the appeal of trying out Kravtsov but really do the sens need it? they have Sokolov who just like Kravtsov is a left-shot playing on the right-wing Russian who has more North American experience and is bigger and stronger.

I also don't like the idea of adding more left-shot forwards to a group that is all lefties besides Batherson, Brown, and Pinto, doesn't make sense to me.
I also don't see a huge upside for this guy offensively his KHL numbers are not that great only like .33 points per game and AHL numbers are even worse.
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Oct. 13, 2021 at 2:49 p.m.
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Who adds what?
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Ottawa is too close to the floor to trade Holden and WSH is too close to the ceiling to take him.

Kempny and a 6th for Mete helps both teams, financially. Ottawa saves $200k in salary, and gets 1.3M further above the cap hit floor, allowing them flexibility to make other moves, like trading Holden somewhere for a pick. And by the deadline, if Kempny is playing well again, the Sens can keep him or trade him for another pick.
Oct. 13, 2021 at 3:03 p.m.
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Quoting: KMarner34
It just seems that in order for him to sign a long-term deal, he wants at least $8M. If not, he wants a bridge-deal and that's why the two sides are arguing.

Quoting: AustonMatthews3443
Fair enough, I just do not understand how he thinks he's worth anything north of 7.


Really don't think the term or AAV is what is blocking the deal but most likely signing bonuses as usual. Melnyk doesn't want to give any of that but star players want a good chunk of their salary in s.b. because of the financial gains it brings. Recent example : look at Barkov contract.

There's a big difference between a 8 x 8 contract and a 8 x 8 contract with 90% in signing bonuses (like Barkov). Just the interest you make every year by receiving your money right away... It's also "Lockout proof" money

All the rest is speculation and rumors. I'm 99% certain this is the case as it's been with past star players.


Quoting: Eli
Ottawa is too close to the floor to trade Holden and WSH is too close to the ceiling to take him.

Kempny and a 6th for Mete helps both teams, financially. Ottawa saves $200k in salary, and gets 1.3M further above the cap hit floor, allowing them flexibility to make other moves, like trading Holden somewhere for a pick. And by the deadline, if Kempny is playing well again, the Sens can keep him or trade him for another pick.


I like these ideas. I'd rather keep Holden anyway (at least until the deadline), he's pretty solid if you don't overplay him. I'd like to keep Mete too.

The 2 D-men I want to see gone asap are Del Zotto (lol I know, never played a game for Ottawa) and Josh Brown
Oct. 13, 2021 at 3:11 p.m.
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Quoting: MauriceRichard1028
I'd agree with you in 2019 when he refused to report to Hartford, but not now. The Rangers traded one of their best forwards to make room for Krav and left him off the prospect camp roster because they felt he was ready, then turn around and cut him for Dryden Hunt.


do you know for a fact that the Rangers traded Buch to make room for Kravtsov?
or did they trade Buch for the cap space?
Oct. 13, 2021 at 3:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
No they burnt him


how so?
Oct. 13, 2021 at 4:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
did they really burn him, or is he your typical Russian that doesn't work hard enough to earn his spot on the team?


Bingo. Our recent drafting is shifting towards NA and character players as opposed to getting burned on flakes like Krav and Lias. Even if these guys finally stick, the years of poking and prodding are not worth the trouble, next...
Oct. 13, 2021 at 5:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
do you know for a fact that the Rangers traded Buch to make room for Kravtsov?
or did they trade Buch for the cap space?


They didn't want to commit that money to Buch for the cap, yes, but they did so knowing Krav would fill his spot.
 
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