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Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 14, 2021
Published: Oct. 14, 2021
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Oct. 14, 2021 at 11:47 a.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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Don't sign Zadorov to that horrible contract
Oct. 14, 2021 at 11:57 a.m.
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PlusMinus is stupid
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Detroit wants NOTHING to do with any of that garbage...
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Oct. 14, 2021 at 12:06 p.m.
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I understand the mantra, but vastly overpaying defensemen is a bad way to do it.
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Oct. 14, 2021 at 12:10 p.m.
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Yeah no thanks to any of that, especially that petterson deal. If they could have got that for him I'm sure they would have moved him.
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Oct. 14, 2021 at 12:17 p.m.
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Defense wins championships, and then you sign Rielly and Zadorov lol
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Oct. 14, 2021 at 12:23 p.m.
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Yeah no thanks to any of that, especially that petterson deal. If they could have got that for him I'm sure they would have moved him.


they have no interest in moving him. If they were going to move defense it would be Matheson.
Oct. 14, 2021 at 12:44 p.m.
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Seth Jones is a defenseman, maybe he can help you win championships?
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Oct. 14, 2021 at 1:32 p.m.
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they have no interest in moving him. If they were going to move defense it would be Matheson.


They can keep both as far as I'm concerned, unless they want to offer us something worth while to take on one of those deals Detroit will just stay away from them. Also Zucker too.
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Oct. 14, 2021 at 2:43 p.m.
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They can keep both as far as I'm concerned, unless they want to offer us something worth while to take on one of those deals Detroit will just stay away from them. Also Zucker too.


you really over estimate DET.
you got 3 LD over 30 years old with expiring contracts none of which are any good. Leddy and staal suck. DeKeyser is made of glass.
Whole LD is probably gone next year. Unless you live in a cave you realize by now there is a massive shortage of defense in the NHL. FFS Jack Johnson is playing for COL right now. That should tell you something about the state of the league and defensemen.

So yeah, talk big, but when DET is looking for defensemen because most FA aren't going to want to come and play for the perpetual rebuild that is going nowhere team, and the prospects aren't ready at 20 years old, then needs for stop gap defensemen who are at least NHL level will be required.
When you don't have any players to really trade, the only other thing to work with is picks or taking cap dumps.
So you can keep having a defense of cap dumps like Staal, which do nothing but hurt the team and player development.

As for Zucker, he wouldn't OK a trade to DET, and he most likely gets traded to a contender. There are teams looking for help on LW. He's only got 1 more year on his contract after this year.
So if he's moved he's a glorified rental where ever he goes. He's also not a bad player. Not every guy is going to be a 40 goal guy. But plenty of teams don't mind guys who score at 20 goal paces.
Sure the salary is a bit high, but he's a capable player, and someone with cap room looking to make a push and has the space will take a run to improve the team knowing that contract in the end isn't going to be hard to move if they have to.
That's even if the penguins trade him. He might go next year, at which point, it will be a nothing of a deal as it's a pure rental and off the books.
Oct. 14, 2021 at 2:48 p.m.
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So yeah, talk big, but when DET is looking for defensemen because most FA aren't going to want to come and play for the perpetual rebuild that is going nowhere team, and the prospects aren't ready at 20 years old, then needs for stop gap defensemen who are at least NHL level will be required.
When you don't have any players to really trade, the only other thing to work with is picks or taking cap dumps.
So you can keep having a defense of cap dumps like Staal, which do nothing but hurt the team and player development.


This is embarrassing for you.
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Oct. 14, 2021 at 2:50 p.m.
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So this is how a Pittsburgh fan would fix Detroit?
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Oct. 14, 2021 at 3:00 p.m.
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This is embarrassing for you.


This is the kind of post people make when they realize they have nothing to say in front of facts.
But hey, enjoy the defense getting toasted this year, they won't be back next year except out of desperation. Because none of them should be. God knows FAs are rushing to be here without a massive overpayment.
Oct. 14, 2021 at 3:15 p.m.
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Why would Detroit sign Morgan Rielly for 6 x $10,000,000 and trade for Marcus Pettersson for 3 x $4,025,000? When Albert Johansson and Simon Edvinsson wont be all that far off. plus hell no on Nikita Zadorov. same with Casey Desmith Yzerman will fast track both Edvinsson and Cossa within 2 years. Johansson will be on the team as early as next year he's tearing it up in the SHL. This is just plain laugh for Detroit.
Oct. 14, 2021 at 3:19 p.m.
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So this is how a Pittsburgh fan would fix Detroit?


I know right, we've a solid LD pipeline. We don't need to add garbage to our lineup.
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Oct. 14, 2021 at 3:19 p.m.
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This is the kind of post people make when they realize they have nothing to say in front of facts.
But hey, enjoy the defense getting toasted this year, they won't be back next year except out of desperation. Because none of them should be. God knows FAs are rushing to be here without a massive overpayment.


lol...thats the kind of post someone makes when they don't understand sh*t.
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Oct. 14, 2021 at 3:22 p.m.
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you really over estimate DET.
you got 3 LD over 30 years old with expiring contracts none of which are any good. Leddy and staal suck. DeKeyser is made of glass.
Whole LD is probably gone next year. Unless you live in a cave you realize by now there is a massive shortage of defense in the NHL. FFS Jack Johnson is playing for COL right now. That should tell you something about the state of the league and defensemen.

So yeah, talk big, but when DET is looking for defensemen because most FA aren't going to want to come and play for the perpetual rebuild that is going nowhere team, and the prospects aren't ready at 20 years old, then needs for stop gap defensemen who are at least NHL level will be required.
When you don't have any players to really trade, the only other thing to work with is picks or taking cap dumps.
So you can keep having a defense of cap dumps like Staal, which do nothing but hurt the team and player development.

As for Zucker, he wouldn't OK a trade to DET, and he most likely gets traded to a contender. There are teams looking for help on LW. He's only got 1 more year on his contract after this year.
So if he's moved he's a glorified rental where ever he goes. He's also not a bad player. Not every guy is going to be a 40 goal guy. But plenty of teams don't mind guys who score at 20 goal paces.
Sure the salary is a bit high, but he's a capable player, and someone with cap room looking to make a push and has the space will take a run to improve the team knowing that contract in the end isn't going to be hard to move if they have to.
That's even if the penguins trade him. He might go next year, at which point, it will be a nothing of a deal as it's a pure rental and off the books.

Detroit could go out and re-sign DeKeyser, Staal OR Leddy to fill one slot, play Osterle to fill another and then promote any one of Sebrango, Viro, Johansson or McIssac and that's IF they don't make a more reasonable trade to bring in a better fit. Detroit doesn't need another team's garbage to make it happen. Stop acting like you're doing us a favor that we have to accept.

Also, Edvinsson AND Wallinder aren't far away either...
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Oct. 14, 2021 at 3:32 p.m.
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I know right, we've a solid LD pipeline. We don't need to add garbage to our lineup.


I agree.
Oct. 14, 2021 at 3:40 p.m.
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I agree.


Forgot about Wallinder, plus Johansson and Edvinsson and McIsaac.
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Oct. 14, 2021 at 6:18 p.m.
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Detroit could go out and re-sign DeKeyser, Staal OR Leddy to fill one slot, play Osterle to fill another and then promote any one of Sebrango, Viro, Johansson or McIssac and that's IF they don't make a more reasonable trade to bring in a better fit. Detroit doesn't need another team's garbage to make it happen. Stop acting like you're doing us a favor that we have to accept.

Also, Edvinsson AND Wallinder aren't far away either...


"DeKeyser, Staal OR Leddy" .... none of which should be resigned. DeKeyser you'd be lucky if he'd finish any of it not on IR. Staal and Leddy suck.

Osterle is a 7th man.

Every prospect you just named there is either not an NHL level defenseman or not ready.

It's so sad you can't realize what is painfully true.
You really think they'd be playing Staal who's totally washed if they had choices.

They will be looking for defensemen next year you can count on it.
But hey these are the same people posting on here who said Cholowski was going to be their defense not to long ago.
Oct. 14, 2021 at 6:20 p.m.
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lol...thats the kind of post someone makes when they don't understand sh*t.


coming from a team that's playing cap dumps for defense.... and watched their defensive "prospects" be waiver wire fodder.
good luck with that.
Oct. 15, 2021 at 7:36 a.m.
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"DeKeyser, Staal OR Leddy" .... none of which should be resigned. DeKeyser you'd be lucky if he'd finish any of it not on IR. Staal and Leddy suck.

Osterle is a 7th man.

Every prospect you just named there is either not an NHL level defenseman or not ready.

It's so sad you can't realize what is painfully true.
You really think they'd be playing Staal who's totally washed if they had choices.

They will be looking for defensemen next year you can count on it.
But hey these are the same people posting on here who said Cholowski was going to be their defense not to long ago.

You're missing the whole point. The goal is to do the rebuild the right way, not give up assets for players that don't move the needle. You're tired trope of "Staal, DeKeyser and Leddy suck, hur, hur" is Jim Rome level garbage. Leddy is still very useful and DeKeyser and Staal are respected vets that are placeholders. Same thing with Osterle, he's certainly not winning a Norris, but he's fine as a 3rd pairing placeholder while we rebuild. Next, your ignorance of our pipeline is comical. Sebrango and McIsaac both looked ready out of camp, but why rush them now? That doesn't mean they won't be ready by next year.

You're clearly only here to stir **** and know nothing about the Wings, nor are you even remotely interested in understanding it, so this will be the last reply I make to you.
Oct. 15, 2021 at 5:59 p.m.
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You're missing the whole point. The goal is to do the rebuild the right way, not give up assets for players that don't move the needle. You're tired trope of "Staal, DeKeyser and Leddy suck, hur, hur" is Jim Rome level garbage. Leddy is still very useful and DeKeyser and Staal are respected vets that are placeholders. Same thing with Osterle, he's certainly not winning a Norris, but he's fine as a 3rd pairing placeholder while we rebuild. Next, your ignorance of our pipeline is comical. Sebrango and McIsaac both looked ready out of camp, but why rush them now? That doesn't mean they won't be ready by next year.

You're clearly only here to stir **** and know nothing about the Wings, nor are you even remotely interested in understanding it, so this will be the last reply I make to you.


You clearly don't get at the end of the day you still have to field an NHL caliber team. You can sit here with your tropes of "Stall and DeKeyser are respected vets, but none of that is even remotely true. No one looks at them as good hockey players. No one. Hell if DeKeyser offered leadership it was teaching young guys it's not worth it, we such, go on IR.

You want to talk about "building the right way" but you don't really seem to get that this team has been "rebuilding" for years on years. It has gone no where.
One of the reasons for that is there isn't enough talent on the ice to help any of the young players. You aren't helping to teach your young forwards when you give them defensemen that are AHL caliber and can't either move the puck up ice or held defensively. You need at least a decent level of talent around them to help them develop. Otherwise what you get is poor development and a failed rebuild. AKA see the current one, as this team has had the same issues going forward year after year after year.
So this, everyone doen't know anything about the wings, and you're the "REAL" expert snobbish pompous attitude can shove off.
This is a team that will need to rebuild it's entire left side next year. In a free agent market that is insane for defensemen, on a team that no one really wants to join.
Those are just facts. Their options are to A. take horrible cap dumps to play defense, aka their current strategy, that if failing. B. play AHL level guys, their earlier strategy that was a failure, or C. realize they need at least a level of play capable of developing younger guys.
Otherwise, not only will they screw up development of younger guys that are rushed onto the ice with 0 help, but they will end up chasing every player out the door before they can ever get the team off the ground and be nothing but a perpetual farm team.
 
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