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Giroux upgrade on D

Created by: Sens4life
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 16, 2021
Published: Oct. 16, 2021
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The Girard trade might make sense for both teams as Colorado will be experiencing cap issues and have an overload of young defenseman, Sens would be getting a solid, young # 2-3 defenseman
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,000,000
2$3,750,000
2$1,250,000
2$2,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,000,000
2$7,500,000
4$4,000,000
2$1,100,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Murray, Matt ($1,250,000 retained)
2.
COL
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (VAN)
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Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,000,000$78,409,046$0$3,540,000$4,590,954
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
C
RFA - 1
$7,500,000$7,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 6
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
UFA - 8
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LW
RFA
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$3,600,000$3,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$818,333$818,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
LW
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$787,500$787,500
G
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 1

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Oct. 16, 2021 at 1:22 a.m.
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Not getting rid of Murray that easy, and girard is worth far more than that.
Oct. 16, 2021 at 2:36 a.m.
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That is an awful trade for girard, not even close

Try Brady 1 for 1 and you might get him
Oct. 16, 2021 at 5:41 a.m.
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Lol, you want a top pairing Dman who has the best zone exit possession metrics in the entire league, for secondary assets? Not even close to being realistic.
Oct. 16, 2021 at 10:14 a.m.
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That is an awful trade for girard, not even close

Try Brady 1 for 1 and you might get him


I wouldn't even want Brady now with his 8.2M cap hit
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Oct. 16, 2021 at 10:24 a.m.
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"have an overload of young defenseman, " Gee, I don't know how any team can have an overload of young (good) defensemen,
Oct. 16, 2021 at 11:33 a.m.
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Yeah that doesn’t get you a 23yr old top pairing dman on an AWESOME contract. Seriously why would Stanley cup contender trade a guy unless it was a MASSIVE overpay like Stuetzle AND JBD. Such ridiculous offer.
Oct. 16, 2021 at 11:34 a.m.
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I wouldn't even want Brady now with his 8.2M cap hit


There isn’t a player on OTT that you trade Girard 1 for 1 if you’re the Avs.
Oct. 18, 2021 at 3:16 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 18, 2021 at 3:24 p.m.
@Sens4life

Not sure why you were targetting Samuel Girard but no chance Ottawa does :

- would costs assets (more than what you proposed)
- He's a LD and the Sens have Chabot, Sanderson, Kleven, Brannstrom, Mete all below 24 y/o

Also no motives for Colorado to trade him, unless they'd have a bigger need?

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YStuetzle AND JBD.


Quoting: Xqb15a
There isn’t a player on OTT that you trade Girard 1 for 1 if you’re the Avs.


Of course!

These takes are as worse as the OP proposal lol
Oct. 18, 2021 at 7:12 p.m.
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Sens4life

Not sure why you were targetting Samuel Girard but no chance Ottawa does :

- would costs assets (more than what you proposed)
- He's a LD and the Sens have Chabot, Sanderson, Kleven, Brannstrom, Mete all below 24 y/o

Also no motives for Colorado to trade him, unless they'd have a bigger need?





Of course!

These takes are as worse as the OP proposal lol


No there not. Tell me what exactly do you think a 23yr old top pairing dman making only $5M for the next 5 seasons is worth? COL isn’t trading Girard unless it is a massive overpay.
Oct. 18, 2021 at 9:39 p.m.
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No there not. Tell me what exactly do you think a 23yr old top pairing dman making only $5M for the next 5 seasons is worth? COL isn’t trading Girard unless it is a massive overpay.


It's not Stuetzle, it's Stutzle.

You call out the OP saying "Such ridiculous offer" but you do the exact same thing by ADDING to Stutzle... But not only that, Ottawa would NEVER trade Stu for Girard... everyone and their dog knows that

And the "There isn’t a player on OTT that you trade Girard 1 for 1 if you’re the Avs"

I think they absolutely should consider Tkachuk, Chabot, Stutzle and Sanderson. I'd also add Shane Pinto in there. Might be a bit too early but you'll see.
Oct. 18, 2021 at 10:03 p.m.
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It's not Stuetzle, it's Stutzle.

You call out the OP saying "Such ridiculous offer" but you do the exact same thing by ADDING to Stutzle... But not only that, Ottawa would NEVER trade Stu for Girard... everyone and their dog knows that

And the "There isn’t a player on OTT that you trade Girard 1 for 1 if you’re the Avs"

I think they absolutely should consider Tkachuk, Chabot, Stutzle and Sanderson. I'd also add Shane Pinto in there. Might be a bit too early but you'll see.


There is this little thing called the cap, so Tkachuk and Chabot are out. Stutzle definitely a higher ceiling but the Avs are win now and Girard offers far more on a game by game basis than Stutzle, why in the world would they want Sanderson when they have Byram already. You seemed to missed the point I was making. JBD a 2nd and 3rd doesn’t even sniff a player like Girard, hence me saying OVERPAY for him.
Oct. 19, 2021 at 10:18 a.m.
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There is this little thing called the cap, so Tkachuk and Chabot are out. Stutzle definitely a higher ceiling but the Avs are win now and Girard offers far more on a game by game basis than Stutzle, why in the world would they want Sanderson when they have Byram already. You seemed to missed the point I was making. JBD a 2nd and 3rd doesn’t even sniff a player like Girard, hence me saying OVERPAY for him.


Where was the cap or teams needs discussed? I thought we were only discussing trade value? Well, I was.

I totally agree that the Avs don't need and shouldn't trade Girard, who is either less expensive or further along than the piece(s) he could be traded for. Avs are trying to win NOW. Sens will work on accessing that contender status.

He's also not the type of D-man Ottawa would target. First he's LD and the Sens don't like small D-men. They already tolerate Mete but won't have Brannstrom in the lineup at the same time lol


The "point you were making" wasn't clear at all because this below seemed like you thought there isn't a single asset in Ottawa that would be worth Girard...

"There isn’t a player on OTT that you trade Girard 1 for 1 if you’re the Avs."

"JBD a 2nd and 3rd" is also irrelevant becaus ethat was OP offer that WE ALL SAID would not be enough. This was already "classified"
 
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