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Created by: JTrades

Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 17, 2021

Published: Oct. 17, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Impressed me
-Sandin. Kid can play. Need to improve his defensive play a bit but he has really good instincts in the offensive zone!
-Nylander. Man on a mission! Making that contract look incredible!
-Kase. A solid player who can move up. He makes good players with the puck and is responsible
-Bunting. He's a smart player. Isn't going to score 30 but is a good player to have on your team!
-Kampf. Doesn't make bad plays. He probably won't score much but I'm okay with it.
-Campbell. Is it possible that he has gotten better? I have complete trust in him

Not good enough
-Engvall. The definition of insanity. We know what he is minus a few standout games
-Kerfoot. Never been a huge fan but he is playerwith better talent than heis used to so he needs to produce like it.
-Richie. Is he even on the leafs because I haven't noticed him. Throw a hit, shoot the puck but do something. How long until we can ca him a giant statue on the ice?
-Dermot. See Engall
-Marner. I remember watching him in junior thinking he could have 5 goals a night if he just stopped playing pick up hockey. He is always looking for the backdoor open net. Good players make plays out of nothing. Marner turns a good play into 0 shots on goal because he's always looking for something better. All this to say. He is still a good player and leafs fans have been too hard on him. I just don't think he's the player the leafs need

Roster I'd like to see when healthy

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Tell me how my value is off because I'm curious. The best trades make both sides a little made

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Marner, Mitchell

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

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LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$77,130,116	$0	$400,000	$4,369,884

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Marchessault, Jonathan $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 3	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 3
Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 4	Kase, Ondrej $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW UFA - 1
Bunting, Michael $950,000$950,000 LW UFA - 2	Kämpf, David $1,500,000$1,500,000 C UFA - 2	Mikheyev, Ilya $1,645,000$1,645,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
	Amadio, Michael $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Simmonds, Wayne $900,000$900,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 2
Spezza, Jason $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NTC UFA - 3	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 3	Campbell, Jack $1,650,000$1,650,000 G UFA - 1
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD NMC UFA - 1	Holl, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Mrázek, Petr $3,800,000$3,800,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
	Liljegren, Timothy $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Dermott, Travis $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 2		Tuch, Alex $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
Engvall, Pierre $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Ritchie, Nick $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW UFA - 2

Oct. 17, 2021 at 9:23 a.m.

GeneralLandro

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Teams probably aren’t going to trade for that contract

Oct. 17, 2021 at 9:29 a.m.

QualityTrades1

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Vegas cannot afford Marner's contract. Tuch is LTIR space right now and they have Stone locked in at 9.5 for a long time. Not sure $20mil for two RWs is a great look on them.

Oct. 17, 2021 at 9:29 a.m.

PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

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Typical capfriendly mob think analysis. Whatever the mob says is true. One give away by Engvall and he's horrible, Kerfoot doesn't score 60+ points he's terrible. Dermott isn't Rielly or Muzzin, he's terrible. Just silly

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Oct. 17, 2021 at 9:39 a.m.

swinny

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Only 3 games into a long season, so it's too early to ask this question.

I will agree, Bunting looks like he belongs. I don't think there was ever any doubt about Sandin. Kase has been great, but puck luck isn't on his side. But it is is 3 games, against what I would call lighter competition.

I think we get a better sense of how this all looks after 10-15 games, when we have a sample size to judge consistency, performance and roles.

Too early.

Oct. 17, 2021 at 9:45 a.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

If every leaf doesn't make the all star game its just anti leaf bias.

Quash any disention. All leafs are hall of gamers.

No one gets to have an opinion otherwise

Oct. 17, 2021 at 9:55 a.m.

JaredOfLondon

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Not even close for marner, like not even half his value

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Oct. 17, 2021 at 9:55 a.m.

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

If every leaf doesn't make the all star game its just anti leaf bias.

Quash any disention. All leafs are hall of gamers.

No one gets to have an opinion otherwise

That is putting an awful lot of words into my mouth that I clearly am not saying. Dermott is a perfectly good 3rd pair defender. It really can't be argued, instead he isn't Rielly or muzzin so he sucks. Engvall does a tonne of stuff well but isn't a super star, so he sucks and nothing he does well matters. Same with Kerfoot. This is 100% the reality of the manic responses on this site. There is no true middle ground. As a Sabres fan you should understand this well enough by now. Look at Eichel, he's hurt and now it means he isn't a top 10 centre, he's barely a top 50 player. Its ridiculous.

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Oct. 17, 2021 at 10:02 a.m.

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I think Engvall has been solid so far. Somehow I don’t even mind him on the PowerPlay. Also what exactly has Kerfoot done wrong? Seriously. I want to know.

Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

3 games in. Trade em all. Except the new faces.

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Oct. 17, 2021 at 10:54 a.m.

Byrr

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Dermott is definitely the most curious choice you have here. Guy has been been playing very well and part of the best defensive pairing the Leafs have had so far this season. 60.81% of the expected goals while he's on the ice, 51 shots for 39 against, 2 goals for 0 against. Really makes your judgement seem dubious.

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Oct. 17, 2021 at 11:25 a.m.

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Quoting: Byrr

I guess it’s because he hasn’t played well in the past so that automatically makes him bad right now. I have to admit, he’s been a pleasant surprise.

Oct. 17, 2021 at 11:33 a.m.

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Byrr

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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary

I guess it’s because he hasn’t played well in the past so that automatically makes him bad right now. I have to admit, he’s been a pleasant surprise.

There's a lot of that going around. Marner for example had 6 high danger scoring chances last night, the most on the team, and helped set up Tavares for 4 more. None of them went in but when you are generating that many chances, the goals will come. This guy is criticizing Kerfoot for not producing enough meanwhile since he got moved up to the 2nd line in the playoffs last season, he's got 8 points in his last 9 games.

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Oct. 17, 2021 at 11:36 a.m.

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Agent_Of_R9

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Quoting: Byrr

Thanks for the insight. I did hear positive feedback about Marner’s play last night. I think everyone is most fearful about him because he hasn’t shown the ability to bounce back from his failures.

Oct. 17, 2021 at 2:01 p.m.

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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary

I guess it’s because he hasn’t played well in the past so that automatically makes him bad right now. I have to admit, he’s been a pleasant surprise.

It's a lazy narrative on this site. Take Marner for example, he doesn't have a goal in the last two playoff rounds but what does that matter to a team that hasn't and isn't expected to make the playoffs? Dude is still a point producing manchine in the regular season... last I checked that still matters.

Besides, half the league does not make the playoffs every season but people on this site couldn't be bothered to consider that.

Oct. 17, 2021 at 4:29 p.m.

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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary

You absolutely have to be a robot

Oct. 17, 2021 at 4:48 p.m.

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Teams probably aren’t going to trade for that contract

Right? Like who would want a top 10 scoring winger who's terrific defensively as well and is under 25 year old?

Oct. 17, 2021 at 7:54 p.m.

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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Right? Like who would want a top 10 scoring winger who's terrific defensively as well and is under 25 year old?

If Marner was actually as good as you say, Leaf fans like yourself wouldn't want to trade him. He's not bad in terms of ability, but he's a choker.

Oct. 17, 2021 at 7:55 p.m.

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Quoting: oneX

I don't totally agree with what you say. I think if teams want to trade for a highly rated player, their ultimate goal is still to win the Stanley Cup. I think Marner has the ability to overcome his failures, but the ship has sailed in Toronto.

Oct. 17, 2021 at 8:01 p.m.

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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary

If Marner was actually as good as you say, Leaf fans like yourself wouldn't want to trade him. He's not bad in terms of ability, but he's a choker.

Leaf fans like myself and including myself, don't want to trade him. Only robots like yourself who spend their free time trying to make Marner look bad do.

Oct. 17, 2021 at 8:02 p.m.

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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary

You are the worst anti marner robot on the planet

Oct. 17, 2021 at 9:17 p.m.

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oneX

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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary

When/if a player gets traded, whatever history he has with the old team does not matter with the new team. By history I of course mean on ice performance.

You can disagree all you want but if GMs completely only factored in performance history, there just wouldn't be many trades in general.

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