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Deadline toys

Created by: Mike
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 17, 2021
Published: Oct. 17, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings
Team Explanation
Sell them all off?
Trades
1.
DET
  1. 2023 1st round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Fabbri, Robby
Additional Details:
Playoff push for cgy .. Fabbri play C/W on any line & when healthy very nice scorer 20-30 goal per year
2.
DET
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (COL)
Conditional
COL
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
Additional Details:
Switchblade type can fill many roles for depth on playoff team & never hurts your own end
3.
DET
  1. 2023 5th round pick (EDM)
Conditional pick.. Depth for oilers run
EDM
  1. Gagner, Sam
4.
DET
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (BOS)
Conditional pick.. Mobile puck moving D.. Played for Canada last summer.. Nice upside & cheap
BOS
  1. Stecher, Troy
5.
DET
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (EDM)
Conditional pick
EDM
  1. Greiss, Thomas ($1,800,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Vet Goalie depth for Edmonton
6.
DET
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
Conditional pick
PIT
  1. Staal, Marc
Additional Details:
Vet D / leadership for playoff push
7.
DET
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
Conditional pick on games played
TOR
  1. DeKeyser, Danny ($2,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Vet top 4-6 D depth for playoff run & close to home
8.
DET
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
  2. Kulak, Brett
  3. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (ANA)
Additional Details:
Vet top 4 mobile D .. Elite skater .. For playoff bubble push
MTL
  1. Leddy, Nick
Additional Details:
Wings take back contract dumps ..so leddy fits in to habs cap structure
9.
DET
  1. 2024 7th round pick (PHI)
Conditional pick
PHI
  1. Rowney, Carter
Buyouts
  • Frans Nielsen: $4,250,000
  • Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Thomas Greiss: $1,800,000 (50%)
  • Danny DeKeyser: $2,500,000 (50%)
  • Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
DET
DET
WSH
BOS
TOR
DET
ANA
DET
COL
VGK
DET
DET
2023
DET
CGY
MTL
DET
DET
COL
DET
DET
EDM
DET
DET
2024
DET
DET
PIT
DET
EDM
DET
DET
DET
DET
PHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$56,354,723$0$4,518,750$25,145,277
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
$4,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
DET
Larkin, Dylan
$6,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
DET
Zadina, Filip
$894,167
RW, LW
RFA - 1
DET
Hirose, Taro
$850,000
LW
RFA - 1
DET
Suter, Pius
$3,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
DET
Raymond, Lucas
$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 3
DET
Erne, Adam
$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
DET
Veleno, Joseph
$894,167
C
RFA - 2
DET
Rasmussen, Michael
$1,460,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 3
DET
Smith, Givani
$750,000
LW
RFA - 2
DET
Stephens, Mitchell
$737,500
C
RFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,300,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DET
Oesterle, Jordan
$1,350,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
DET
Seider, Moritz
$863,333
RD
RFA - 3
DET
Nedeljkovic, Alex
$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
DET
Hronek, Filip
$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 3
DET
Pickard, Calvin
$800,000
G
UFA - 1
DET
Witkowski, Luke
$750,000
RW, RD
UFA - 2
DET
Lindström, Gustav
$850,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
DET
Vrána, Jakub
$5,250,000
LW
UFA - 3

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Oct. 17 at 11:19 p.m.
#1
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Boston does not need more undersized D men.

He’s the exact opposite of what they need in a Dman.
Oct. 17 at 11:35 p.m.
#2
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Fabbri isn't worth a 1st lol
Oct. 17 at 11:49 p.m.
#3
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Fabbri isn't worth a 1st lol


Maybe not to the Flames, but a player who at 50% retained is under $1.5M and puts up ~20 goals ~50 points a season on a low scoring team can fetch a 1st. There’s injury risk of course, and maybe Fabbri has a down year, but there’s value there for sure
Oct. 17 at 11:51 p.m.
#4
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Boston does not need more undersized D men.

He’s the exact opposite of what they need in a Dman.


Nope..cuz they need mobile vet puck movers..
Oct. 17 at 11:51 p.m.
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Quoting: NLidstrom
Maybe not to the Flames, but a player who at 50% retained is under $1.5M and puts up ~20 goals ~50 points a season on a low scoring team can fetch a 1st. There’s injury risk of course, and maybe Fabbri has a down year, but there’s value there for sure


Maybe he should put up those numbers first, until then he is just another Kase
Oct. 17 at 11:53 p.m.
#6
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Sure most pf those guys can go but your a bit greedy on a couple. Unless fabbri is pushing 25 goals by trade deadline a 1st is too much. Leddy might get a 1st but not all rest. Guys like staal, stecher, DDK maybe late picks.
Oct. 17 at 11:53 p.m.
#7
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Maybe he should put up those numbers first, until then he is just another Kase


Kase has been a waiver level player.. Wow u need to actually WATCH hockey first b4 commenting.. Stunning
Oct. 17 at 11:53 p.m.
#8
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What do you mean conditional? You gotta say what the condition is
Oct. 17 at 11:54 p.m.
#9
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
What do you mean conditional? You gotta say what the condition is


No i don't...its conditional negotiated between the 2 teams.. I make the rules on my post.. Ha
Oct. 17 at 11:56 p.m.
#10
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Quoting: Mike
Kase has been a waiver level player.. Wow u need to actually WATCH hockey first b4 commenting.. Stunning


Kase was a "60-70 point winger if he could stay healthy player on a bad team" maybe try thinking before throwing insults on stuff you dont know
Oct. 17 at 11:57 p.m.
#11
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Maybe he should put up those numbers first, until then he is just another Kase


…. the thing is Kase did get a 1st rounder at the TDL, or a 2nd round prospect and the Ducks took a 1st to eat Backes’s contract - depending what you believe taking on Backes was worth.
Oct. 18 at 12:00 a.m.
#12
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Quoting: NLidstrom
…. the thing is Kase did get a 1st rounder at the TDL, or a 2nd round prospect and the Ducks took a 1st to eat Backes’s contract - depending what you believe taking on Backes was worth.


I would say taking on Backes was the main part of that trade, plus Kase had an extra year of control at the time.

Fabbri isnt worth a 1st, maybe a 2nd but not a 1st
Oct. 18 at 12:03 a.m.
#13
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Quoting: Mike
No i don't...its conditional negotiated between the 2 teams.. I make the rules on my post.. Ha


well fair enough, but the value will greatly vary depending on the condition. Avs arent paying a 3rd for Namestnikov if the condition is for him to play 1 playoff game or something easy like that. Also DET wouldnt trade him for that if the condition was that he had to win the conn smythe for the pick to transfer or something unrealistic like that
Oct. 18 at 12:04 a.m.
#14
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Quoting: Mike
Nope..cuz they need mobile vet puck movers..


Nope they have them. They need big physical presence.
Oct. 18 at 12:23 a.m.
#15
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Nope they have them. They need big physical presence.


No they don't outside mac...
Oct. 18 at 1:59 a.m.
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Calgary and Montreal aren't making the playoffs, Good chance that Pittsburgh doesn't make it as well. Marc Staal already said that he's not waiving his NMC. We're not trading these players for picks that're still 2 and 3 years out. Fabbri has to be a 2022 1st round pick. So we deal Namestnikov and Gagner for picks that're still 2 years out i don't think so Yzerman isn't that dumb these picks need to be 2022 and no later then 2023 unless they're multiple picks.
Oct. 18 at 2:31 a.m.
#17
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yeah no one is paying that for Staal or any of these other defensemen.
DeKyser will probably be on IR by TDL and Leddy being worth anything is a joke.

DET will be replacing their whole LD next season because they are cap dumps and bad players.
The only question will be, will they be replaced with other cap dumps or will they actually put some effort into the team prior to guys like Larkin jetting next year due to lack of effort.
Oct. 18 at 8:06 a.m.
#18
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Quoting: Mike
No they don't outside mac...


Grz is a puck mover
Reilly is a puck mover

No, they don't need another puck mover.
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Oct. 18 at 8:40 a.m.
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staal has a nmc
Oct. 18 at 8:44 a.m.
#20
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Grz is a puck mover
Reilly is a puck mover

No, they don't need another puck mover.


Yes they do...boo boo
Oct. 18 at 8:48 a.m.
#21
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Quoting: loganocota
staal has a nmc


Irrelevant...cuz 99% of players with nmc .. Waive the right when team no longer wants them..just determines which team they want to go to...like list if 5-10 etc as ex...they still move just want a say to where..only franchise players like bourque in bos..lidstrom det ..etc have them to block basically all trades if not avalanche (or wings at time) he likely stays in bos too
Oct. 18 at 9:01 a.m.
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Quoting: Mike
Yes they do...boo boo


Lol about the response I'd expect from someone who (its clear from reading your replies) has zero idea what their talking about.
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Oct. 18 at 9:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Mike
No they don't outside mac...


Lol, Grizz and Reilly are better puck movers than Mac there clueless.

Boston counters with Kuhlman for a 2nd. Because Detroit needs more spare part caliber forwards. There you go.
Oct. 18 at 9:13 a.m.
#24
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Namestnikov has been traded twice as a rental for a 4th, he is now older and worse since then, hes not getting a 3rd now
Oct. 18 at 5:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Lol, Grizz and Reilly are better puck movers than Mac there clueless.

Boston counters with Kuhlman for a 2nd. Because Detroit needs more spare part caliber forwards. There you go.


Nope u need a hockey 101 class.. You're welcome
 
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