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Kravtsov to SJS

Created by: Finski
Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 17, 2021
Published: Oct. 17, 2021
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Fair trade SJS?
Pajuniemi is on the 3rd because I really like him and see him as the perfect slot in for the Rangers on the 3rd.
Yes Strome is worth a 1st, don't kid yourself saying he isn't

If you disagree with this trade, let me know in the comments (also there is a reason none of are the actual GM of any team, so don't get heated).
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. 2022 7th round pick (NYI)
  2. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
2.
SJS
  1. Brodzinski, Jonny
  2. Kravtsov, Vitali
  3. Reunanen, Tarmo
  4. 2022 4th round pick (WPG)
  5. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
  6. 2024 2nd round pick (NYR)
3.
NYR
  1. 2024 5th round pick (ARI)
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2022
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23$81,500,000$73,025,219$0$7,632,500$8,474,781

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LW
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UFA - 5
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UFA - 1
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RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Oct. 17, 2021 at 11:53 p.m.
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Hes worth a 1st but not Ottawa's 1st
Oct. 17, 2021 at 11:53 p.m.
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Kravtsov and the first is more than enough
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Oct. 17, 2021 at 11:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Hes worth a 1st but not Ottawa's 1st


Well think Ottawa = insert team name here
Oct. 17, 2021 at 11:56 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Kravtsov and the first is more than enough


Rest is filler besides the 2nd really
Oct. 17, 2021 at 11:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Rest is filler besides the 2nd really


A tier prospect
B tier prospect
Depth player
1st
2nd
4th

wouldn't call it filler but hey if it makes it work it makes it work
Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:00 a.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Kravtsov and the first is more than enough


Agreed, Kravtsov and OTT 1st is plenty
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Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:02 a.m.
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Quoting: jwg314
Agreed, Kravtsov and OTT 1st is plenty


If Hertl were that cheap, I would pull the trigger on it, but I want to give SJS a few pieces they can work with (Tarmo and a few extra picks) to make the SJS fans happy
Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Mursu
A tier prospect
B tier prospect
Depth player
1st
2nd
4th

wouldn't call it filler but hey if it makes it work it makes it work


Idk if Reunanen is B-tier, also Brdozinski isn't depth hes an AHL'er
Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Mursu
If Hertl were that cheap, I would pull the trigger on it, but I want to give SJS a few pieces they can work with (Tarmo and a few extra picks) to make the SJS fans happy


That's a potential top prospect and potential lottery pick. SJS would take that for sure.
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Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:04 a.m.
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The trade itself is a crazy overpay, but it could easily blow up in NYR's face depending on his extension and Fox's extension.

Ultimately I just don't think it's worth it. In my opinion, stick with Strome, or go with Chytil. I'm not saying Hertl sucks by any means, but I struggle to see how him and his likely 7million dollar cap hit - that will likely see one of Lafreniere, Kakko, or Miller to be lost - will be better than the current "Bread and Butter" chemistry we have. Strome should come in at 5million maximum on his next deal. Otherwise we give the reigns to Chytil. It's just too tight with the cap hit to do this, unless some seriously drastic/impossible measures are made
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Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:06 a.m.
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Quoting: mvp13
The trade itself is a crazy overpay, but it could easily blow up in NYR's face depending on his extension and Fox's extension.

Ultimately I just don't think it's worth it. In my opinion, stick with Strome, or go with Chytil. I'm not saying Hertl sucks by any means, but I struggle to see how him and his likely 7million dollar cap hit - that will likely see one of Lafreniere, Kakko, or Miller to be lost - will be better than the current "Bread and Butter" chemistry we have. Strome should come in at 5million maximum on his next deal. Otherwise we give the reigns to Chytil. It's just too tight with the cap hit to do this, unless some seriously drastic/impossible measures are made


I agree with you just playing around with a few ideas
Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:07 a.m.
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Quoting: jwg314
Agreed, Kravtsov and OTT 1st is plenty


Has any rental in nhl history fetched such a price?
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Rest is filler besides the 2nd really


Sue. It’s an overpay
Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Idk if Reunanen is B-tier, also Brdozinski isn't depth hes an AHL'er


Tarmo is a B-Tier prospect no sugar coating it but a talented one at that, ill admit
Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.
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This is an easy no
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Has any rental in nhl history fetched such a price?


No, I think it's more than generous.
Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:09 a.m.
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Quoting: gary_bettman
This is an easy no


You're out of your mind.
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Quoting: Mursu
I agree with you just playing around with a few ideas


Gotchyah, no problem!

If NYR manage to get Fox on a smaller AAV deal than most people generally expect, it's possible it could work out. But he's probably gonna get the 9+mil, and it's even tight to keep Strome's 5mil after that
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Quoting: gary_bettman
This is an easy no


I knew I was waiting for this comment! What would you like give a realistic answer please
Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Mursu
A tier prospect
B tier prospect
Depth player
1st
2nd
4th

wouldn't call it filler but hey if it makes it work it makes it work


Who's the A tiered prospect? I don’t see one.
Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:11 a.m.
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The trade itself is a crazy overpay, but it could easily blow up in NYR's face depending on his extension and Fox's extension.

Ultimately I just don't think it's worth it. In my opinion, stick with Strome, or go with Chytil. I'm not saying Hertl sucks by any means, but I struggle to see how him and his likely 7million dollar cap hit - that will likely see one of Lafreniere, Kakko, or Miller to be lost - will be better than the current "Bread and Butter" chemistry we have. Strome should come in at 5million maximum on his next deal. Otherwise we give the reigns to Chytil. It's just too tight with the cap hit to do this, unless some seriously drastic/impossible measures are made


Also true. No way in hell NYR can afford to extend Hertl and Fox.
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Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:11 a.m.
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Gotchyah, no problem!

If NYR manage to get Fox on a smaller AAV deal than most people generally expect, it's possible it could work out. But he's probably gonna get the 9+mil, and it's even tight to keep Strome's 5mil after that


Just make deals where the AAV hit goes growing past 2024 (with the CBA coming to an end) in a post-covid world the salary cap should shoot up so that is possible to make it work
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Quoting: Mursu
I knew I was waiting for this comment! What would you like give a realistic answer please


Don't even humor him.
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Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:14 a.m.
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Quoting: glarson17
Who's the A tiered prospect? I don’t see one.


Kravtsov is an A tier prospect if you disagree with that then I presume your A tier prospects are (my S tier prospects) generational talents (such as Laf, Kaapo, Stutzle, etc). A tier prospects are prospects with a top 6 ceilings, but who will not turn into Crosby or McDavid.

A tier prospects have a ceiling similar to Barzal, Strome, Eberle, Kreider, etc.
Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Mursu
Kravtsov is an A tier prospect if you disagree with that then I presume your A tier prospects are (my S tier prospects) generational talents (such as Laf, Kaapo, Stutzle, etc). A tier prospects are prospects with a top 6 ceilings, but who will not turn into Crosby or McDavid.

A tier prospects have a ceiling similar to Barzal, Strome, Eberle, Kreider, etc.


Your argument was fine until you included Barzal in that group.
 
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