Kravtsov to SJS

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Created by: Finski

Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 17, 2021

Published: Oct. 17, 2021

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Fair trade SJS?
Pajuniemi is on the 3rd because I really like him and see him as the perfect slot in for the Rangers on the 3rd.
Yes Strome is worth a 1st, don't kid yourself saying he isn't

If you disagree with this trade, let me know in the comments (also there is a reason none of are the actual GM of any team, so don't get heated).

Trades

NYR

2022 7th round pick (NYI)
2023 1st round pick (OTT)

OTT

Strome, Ryan

NYR

Hertl, Tomas

SJS

Brodzinski, Jonny
Kravtsov, Vitali
Reunanen, Tarmo
2022 4th round pick (WPG)
2023 1st round pick (OTT)
2024 2nd round pick (NYR)

NYR

2024 5th round pick (ARI)

ARI

Hájek, Libor

Buyouts

Henrik Lundqvist: $1,500,000
Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
Anthony Deangelo: $383,334
Brad Richards: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$73,025,219	$0	$7,632,500	$8,474,781

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Lafrenière, Alexis $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LW, RW RFA - 2	Zibanejad, Mika $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Kreider, Chris $6,500,000$6,500,000 LW NMC UFA - 6
Panarin, Artemi $11,642,857$11,642,857 LW NMC UFA - 5	Hertl, Tomas $5,625,000$5,625,000 C M-NTC UFA - 1	Kakko, Kaapo $925,000$925,000 ($2,650,000$3M) RW RFA - 1
Goodrow, Barclay $3,641,667$3,641,667 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 6	Chytil, Filip $2,300,000$2,300,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Pajuniemi, Lauri $883,750$883,750 ($82,500$82K) RW RFA - 2
	Rooney, Kevin $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1
Blais, Samuel $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Reaves, Ryan $1,750,000$1,750,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindgren, Ryan $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD RFA - 3	Fox, Adam $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1	Shesterkin, Igor $5,666,667$5,666,667 G UFA - 4
Miller, K'Andre $925,000$925,000 ($350,000$350K) LD RFA - 2	Trouba, Jacob $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Georgiev, Alexandar $2,425,000$2,425,000 G UFA - 1
Nemeth, Patrik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Lundkvist, Nils $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Hunt, Dryden $762,500$762,500 LW, RW UFA - 2
Gauthier, Julien $775,000$775,000 RW UFA - 1
Tinordi, Jarred $900,000$900,000 LD UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Panarin, A.		Hertl, T.		Kreider, C.
	Zibanejad, M.		Fox, A.

Power Play 2
Lafrenière, A.		Chytil, F.		Kakko, K.
	Pajuniemi, L.		Lundkvist, N.

Penalty Kill 1
	Goodrow, B.	Rooney, K.
	Lindgren, R.	Fox, A.

Penalty Kill 2
	Zibanejad, M.	Kakko, K.
	Miller, K.	Trouba, J.

Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:20 a.m.

#26

Ragsandbluesfan

Rangers 2023

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Quoting: Mursu

Kravtsov is an A tier prospect if you disagree with that then I presume your A tier prospects are (my S tier prospects) generational talents (such as Laf, Kaapo, Stutzle, etc). A tier prospects are prospects with a top 6 ceilings, but who will not turn into Crosby or McDavid.

A tier prospects have a ceiling similar to Barzal, Strome, Eberle, Kreider, etc.

Barzal is levels above the other 3

Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:21 a.m.

#27

FunMustBeAlways

Joined: Jan. 2020

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I have no problems with going after Kravtsov but a Hertl trade needs to include a good center prospect or I'm not a fan.

So baseline for me is 1st + Chytil (as it has been for months) and if you want to throw in Kravtsov, I'd be okay throwing a 2nd or 3rd in the other direction. Trading a 1C for a right winger is just a no-go for SJ.

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Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:23 a.m.

#28

Ragsandbluesfan

Rangers 2023

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Quoting: mvp13

The trade itself is a crazy overpay, but it could easily blow up in NYR's face depending on his extension and Fox's extension.

Ultimately I just don't think it's worth it. In my opinion, stick with Strome, or go with Chytil. I'm not saying Hertl sucks by any means, but I struggle to see how him and his likely 7million dollar cap hit - that will likely see one of Lafreniere, Kakko, or Miller to be lost - will be better than the current "Bread and Butter" chemistry we have. Strome should come in at 5million maximum on his next deal. Otherwise we give the reigns to Chytil. It's just too tight with the cap hit to do this, unless some seriously drastic/impossible measures are made

I like the chemistry but maybe playing with a guy like Hertl whos been in a playoff hockey type of system (and is just flatout more skilled than Strome) might help Panarin adjust to Gallant's system (because he needs it BAD)

Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:37 a.m.

#29

Finski

Thread Starter

New York Rangers

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Posts: 1,771

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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan

We have played 3 games and Panarin is a player who sleeps for the first 15 but then is AWAKE for the remainder of the season like AWAKE AWAKE.

Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:55 a.m.

#30

papishark

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Not interesting. Chytil is the only thing id like

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Oct. 18, 2021 at 1:26 a.m.

#31

sensonfire

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Any reason why there's no lottery protection?

Oct. 18, 2021 at 1:33 a.m.

#32

Bias_it_self

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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan

Rest is filler besides the 2nd really

I wouldn't listen to that guy. Big Boston Homer who will tell you to shut up once you bring in advanced stats.

Oct. 18, 2021 at 1:38 a.m.

#33

Bias_it_self

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Quoting: Mursu

I knew I was waiting for this comment! What would you like give a realistic answer please

Treat any Hertl trade like a Mika trade. I think a baseline asking price for an elite talent like Hertl would be Schneider + 2022 1st. If there was an extension in place the Sharks would ask for more. Hertl is our best player by a mile, it's absolutely necessary to win any trade. Be it Vegas, New York, Minnesota, Colorado, etc

Edit: Hopefully this is a more complete answer that gives an idea of what us Sharks fans think.

Oct. 18, 2021 at 2:45 a.m.

#34

Radu47

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Ottawa's 2023 1st for strome tho 😵

Gadzooks

That could easily be Bedard michkov etc.

Ottawa's goalie situation sucks and

Their young core still mostly 99-02 birthdays

Oct. 18, 2021 at 6:47 a.m.

#35

sensibleguy

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NYR
2023 1st round pick (OTT)
2022 7th round pick (NYI)
OTT
Strome, Ryan

"Yes Strome is worth a 1st, don't kid yourself saying he isn't"

People adding 7th rounds picks, other than to balance number of picks being exchanged, make me laugh, there's no trade value in them. It just replaces a warm body.

Strome is worth two 2nds, high and low, or maybe a 2nd and a 3rd (like Buffalo). Yes you can trade two 2nds for a 1st, but a very late one, nowhere near where most teams 1st's will be, those who can afford him.

Ottawa has what should be a decent 2nd, their own, and a low 2nd, the TBL pick. That's a fair offer for Ryan Strome.

Oct. 18, 2021 at 9:53 a.m.

#36

Finski

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New York Rangers

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Quoting: Bias_it_self

But there is a massive difference and that is that Hertl is walking and will walk in the off season, so the Sharks must trade him (unless they want to lose him for nothing)...

Oct. 18, 2021 at 11:17 a.m.

#37

Bias_it_self

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Quoting: Mursu

But there is a massive difference and that is that Hertl is walking and will walk in the off season, so the Sharks must trade him (unless they want to lose him for nothing)...

Not really. If the Sharks have a half decent season (which is very possible with new goaltending and hungry rookies) Hertl will resign. He loves the city and the team; he won’t screw over the Sharks.

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Oct. 18, 2021 at 2:21 p.m.

#38

gary_bettman

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Quoting: Mursu

Kravtsov couldn't even make the Rangers for four years. Rangers are far from a bad team but they're not exactly great. Hard to believe Kravtsov is an A prospect.

For Hertl the conversation only starts with Chytil. If Hertl would even waive to NYR since they are not looking playoff bound.

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